Amare

[Bufalay]

If you can't make your point without putting **** profanity into your posts maybe you should buy a thesaurus or drop back into school.

Me?

 

[devilalum]

Me?

No

I was just referring to the thread. IMO it also introduces a hostile tone that has always been refreshingly absent from ASFN.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think Amare will stop trying. I'm more concerned that once signed he will need to have his knees redrilled and by the time he completes the 2 year rehab he will be on the downside of his career and the franchise will be in ruins.

The only reason I would have ever considered trading Amare is the injury risk but you mentioned something that I don't know much about. Is it a really a 2 year (or thereabouts) rehab for the subsequent procedure? I was hoping that a followup procedure was less extensive but I have no basis for that hope.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

So all we hear (from some anonymous source) is that Amare will have to get another procedure done. But Kenyon Martin and Jason Kidd haven't had to have a 2nd procedure and to my knowledge Chris Webber didn't need one either. Sure, there's a danger his knees will have problems, but everyone here seems to think they are doctors and know that he'll be out in a couple years.

 

[Errntknght]

I haven't read of a case where it was tried on cartilage but there is a new technique that is having spectacular success healing tendons & ligaments and I've read that it is expected to have similar results healing cartilage. Its relatively simple - they take about a cup of blood from the person, centrifuge it and extract the fraction that is richest in platelets then inject that into the injured area with ordinary hypodermic needles. I saw a video of it being done as an office procedure - it took about 20 minutes, though they did leave out most of the fifteen minute centrifuging. Tendons are much more accessible than the knee cartilage on which microfracture is used so it might take surgery to deliver it there or numerous small treatments. One article I read claimed that it stimulated regrowth of the collagen matrix for cartilage, which is the key thing that microfracture surgery does not do. That was what really caught my attention.

If you're interested in reading about it search for 'prolotherapy' and look for PRP, which stands for platelet rich plasma. (Prolotherapy is injecting healing agents at injury sites and has been around for about a dozen years.)

 

[Black Jesus]

So you are saying that our coaching staff was instructing Barbosa to limit his shots, but he ignored them and defiantly kept doing as he pleased? That he kept padding his own stats because he cared more about scoring a lot of points than what the team needed of him?

If Barbosa shoots too much, it is because he is being told to keep shooting. He seems to me like a very easily coachable player, so it is up to Gentry to figure out how to use him most effectively. How quickly we forget how vital Barbosa has been to this team in the past when healthy.

Where did I mention anything about the coaching staff in either of my posts?

I simply said Barbosa shouldn't be shooting that much, it was an analytical thought, not pointing out defiance by Barbs... I have clue what Gentry instructs him.

I am starting to doubt this Suns board. Yeah, Amare has disappeared for stretches in mid regular season, but he most definitely shows up post-allstar and playoffs, and not just in a contract year.

Can't believe everyone on here with the trade Amare talk. He is Top 10 NBA player.

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Wade
4. Melo
5. Durant
6. Nash
7. Dirk
8. Howard
9. Amare
10. JJ

 

[Black Jesus]

HAHA bro you are a joke!...amare always elevates his game in the second half of the season when it matters? please give me some examples...if what you say is true we would NOT be shopping Amare!...I hope amare keeps playing like this but dont you think its a bit convenient?? CONTRACT YEAR...enough said...hence why all these NBA players have huge years before they want a new deal..then they get lazy and dont give a F***...until the last year of there deal so they can sign a new one

Sorry High Stakes, but you are either high, a moron, or you haven't watched the Suns the past 5 years.

I'll let you pick.

 

[Ronin]

The Suns and Stoudemire's camp had a brief exchange of proposals Feb. 12, and years - two vs. four - was a major difference.

I like the 2 year offer by Sarver/Kerr. Smart.

 

[Gaddabout]

Everyone, please read: Too many "morons" and "idiots" and other direct derogatory comments are slipping into this board. I've let it go until now. I don't want to ban people for it -- I know the discussion is heated, but I'm giving this warning now. I'm going to start banning people who can't make their point without making light of the person they're responding to.

 

[krazyasiankid]

HAHA bro you are a joke!...amare always elevates his game in the second half of the season when it matters? please give me some examples...if what you say is true we would NOT be shopping Amare!...I hope amare keeps playing like this but dont you think its a bit convenient?? CONTRACT YEAR...enough said...hence why all these NBA players have huge years before they want a new deal..then they get lazy and dont give a F***...until the last year of there deal so they can sign a new one

Its true. Amare's playoff stats are way better than his regular season stats. (Go on his NBA player profile page if you dont believe me. Im assuming you can read right?) Anyway, its not as if Amare is like Boris Diaw. Amare has always been a consistent scorer his whole career, contract year or not. So I dont know what Suns games you have been watching....

 

[Yuma]

This thread needs the title changed to "Amar'e"

 

[Michael]

Regarding Barbosa's shooting, don't forget that he comes off the bench and spends a good amount of minutes with the subs.

This makes him one of the first options on the court which naturally increases his shots/ 48 minutes.

 

[joshstmarie]

Where did I mention anything about the coaching staff in either of my posts?

I simply said Barbosa shouldn't be shooting that much, it was an analytical thought, not pointing out defiance by Barbs... I have clue what Gentry instructs him.

I am starting to doubt this Suns board. Yeah, Amare has disappeared for stretches in mid regular season, but he most definitely shows up post-allstar and playoffs, and not just in a contract year.

Can't believe everyone on here with the trade Amare talk. He is Top 10 NBA player.

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Wade
4. Melo
5. Durant
6. Nash
7. Dirk
8. Howard
9. Amare
10. JJ

Chris Paul?
Bosh?
Deron Williams?

I mean its debatable wether Amare is better than Boozer/Lee. There are many many players I would rather have than amare.

Why does it not suprise me a guy with amare in his Icon is calling amare a top 10 player in the NBA.

 

[cly2tw]

If Amare's health were no concern, I'd rank him at the same level with Bosh. If I were Miami, I'd rather have Wade/Amare than Wade/Bosh or Wade/Boozer for a more effective core. Boozer/Lee as good as Bosh? Maybe so, in some viewers' eyes.

 

[Wonder]

Amare doesn't have nagging injuries first of all. He just had some freak accident as of late. Only the microfracture which was years ago, and that's not a nagging injury, he isn't no Yao Ming. He's had plenty of full healthy career years. He's just missed out on one year, and every other year he's always been there, every game. You NEVER see him miss a game due to a sickness or a sprain, something small, w/e. It's really rare in his case. The eye thing was a freak accident. Just stop with worrying about his past injuries, garuntee he's finishing this season 82 games.

 

[Ronin]

Amare had surgery on the other knee also. Baker Cyst was the problem I believe.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Chris Paul?
Bosh?
Deron Williams?

I mean its debatable wether Amare is better than Boozer/Lee. There are many many players I would rather have than amare.

Why does it not suprise me a guy with amare in his Icon is calling amare a top 10 player in the NBA.

I think it is debatable whether Amare is better than Bosh or Deron Williams (I'd say yes vs Bosh & no vs Williams) but IMO he's on a different level than Boozer or Lee. If you factor in injury concerns and salary demands Lee might be a more attractive option but that's a different story.

Steve