Are there still people drinking the Skelton kool-aid?

[Dr. Jones]

i dont know if Beanie's knee is that bad, but for whatever reason the team just doesnt want to run twice in a row.

I think this is why we sucked yesterday. Our coaching staff's inability to adjust once they saw the Niners sitting back in Nickle and Dime coverages all day long.

we should have ran heavily on them until they were forced to rush more than a base of 4.

 

[Chopper0080]

Skelton did not have a chance with stupid coaching allergic to the run and addicted to the pass. Just like Matt, Max, Richard, Kevin they are not coached into position to succeed.

i thought Whiz and Millers were coming around, I was happy with 40 passes last week and 23 rushes. My standards are poorer than they use to be. Niners will beat us 11 out of 10 times with that game plan, I'm past disgusted again.

I disagree so much with this. If you are going to beat a top team, then you have to make plays in the passing game. If you want to protect that QB, then you throw on irregular throwing downs like 1st and 10, or 2nd/3rd and short. This keeps defenses from keying on this pass and allows you to exploit less athletic personnel in coverage (LB's). If your Qb can't complete intermediate passes in favorable situations, then it is obvious you need a different QB.

So we threw on 1st-10 (favorable situation) and it was incomplete. We ran on 2nd-10 to try and make it a more favorable down and distance, and got 4 yards. Now it is 3rd-6, and you want to run??? Against the top rushing defense in the NFL and you want to run on 3rd-6. Of course you don't, which is why you pass. Well your QB can't complete that either and so now you punt. 3 plays, 2 pass and 1 run. That is where you get this poor ratio despite it being a solid offensive plan that is putting your QB in the best situation to succeed.

 

[Phrazbit]

I have a question. If all Skelton does is stare at Fitz how did Roberts and Doucet combine for 17 receptions for 212 yards the two previous games with Skelator?

Seriously. Maybe the thought is that he was trying to throw it to Fitz but has so little control he accidentally hit the wrong guys.

 

[Duckjake]

I think this is why we sucked yesterday. Our coaching staff's inability to adjust once they saw the Niners sitting back in Nickle and Dime coverages all day long.

we should have ran heavily on them until they were forced to rush more than a base of 4.

Evidence is that Chester Taylor runs for 34 yards on 2nd and 4 after three straight passes by Bartel.

 

[Chopper0080]

Evidence is that Chester Taylor runs for 34 yards on 2nd and 4 after three straight passes by Bartel.

San Fran was actually sleeping on that play. Patrick Willis literally had a pillow and was laying on the ground.

 

[Russ Smith]

I was 100% correct.

3 man rushes yesterday - 6
4 man rushes yesterday - Every other time.

The Niners never blitzed once yesterday. A reporter from the Bay area with the last name of Maiocco tweeted it out today. Somers re-tweeted it.

My above post was spot on. It's amazing they sacked Skelton at all. And the fact that they did sack him, or pressure him at all, still means our O-Line sucks the hairy armpits of a french hooker.

That is remarkable. NFL team goes an entire game not blitzing and the DC openly admits they're not trying to disguise schemes either.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

That is remarkable. NFL team goes an entire game not blitzing and the DC openly admits they're not trying to disguise schemes either.

and basically pitches a shutout.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I still think Skelton has a brighter future than Kolb...

 

[Black Jesus]

Skelton looked like crap against a 9-1 team with one of the best Defenses on the league on the road in the rain...

Never got in his rhythm. I don't believe he's a future superstar by any means, but I definitely think he still gives this team the best chance to win on Sundays.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Nope.

Still like him as a QB, but nope. I put my glass down.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I think Skelton was drinking too much of his own koolaid. Beating a high profile team like Philly, got him some national attention. The guy was all over the place last week doing interviews. People in the media were heaping praise on him and I think it really went to his head. He was the guest on the Big Red Rage show for a long segment, talking about the life of an NFL QB. He talked about the way he goes thru his progressions. That's funny, the 49er DC said he doesn't go thru any progressions.

People were critical of Whiz for being too harsh on Skelton in the postgame. I think this had alot to do with it. Whiz saw all the interviews he was doing, acting like he had "arrived". I think Whiz was tired of the hype. In the NFL, you can't let your guard down for a second. And I think he did. He bought into his own hype and thought he could pick up right where he left off with the Eagles. Only problem, in the NFL, a letdown like that can end your career. If he gets another shot next week, I think we'll see a more focused guy. I don't think he'll be doing any interviews this week.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Are you guys high?? Do you even watch the games?? Even prior to yesterday's debacle, no semi-sound-minded individual should've been thinking that Skelton was the superior QB.

Yeah, well your mother wear's army boots!

Cause prior to yesterday's debacle,this semi-sound-minded individual was thinking that Skelton was the superior QB.

I am not so sure now, but I do know Kolb sucks.

 

[kerouac9]

2 good quarters out of 8 are apparently good enough for some as long as they lead to wins. I am as confused as you are at the rush to "crown" Skelton.

Has Kolb put together a "complete game" to this point as a Cardinal? Heck, as an NFL starter?

2 good quarters is more than Kolb has been able to put together in more than twice as many starts.

How quickly people forget how toothless the offense was when Kevin Kolb was slinging the ball around. Kolb has 61 attempts on 3rd down this season and has converted 19 first downs while taking 7 sacks. Skelton averages more than a yard and a half per play on 3rd downs.

 

[az1965]

We're back to the days of choosing between Josh McCown, Shaun King or John Navarre.

Great job of selecting and coaching the QBs Ken.

None of those guys cost us $65 millions, a pro-bowl corner back, and a second round pick...

 

[Goldfield]

Skelton is getting worse and worse each game....

 

[az1965]

At least there is something consistent among all our QB's

 

[Mulli]

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Skelton is our Tebow. He needs work, makes mistakes, is improving in the passing game, can run the ball well, and more often than not - WINS.

Go Skelton, go !!!

 

[Dback Jon]

Yes

 

[Chopper0080]

Skelton is not a future top QB. Stop trying to make him something that he is not. He might develop into a solid backup, but that is it. He is too inaccurate to be anything more.

 

[gmabel830]

I am not on the Skelton should be the starter bandwagon, but will admit I was extremely impressed with his performance today. After the last game against the Niners, and with zero first team reps the past two weeks, I figured we were done when I saw him trotting on the field. When we went down 19-7, I was certain we were done. The defense deserves the most credit for the win, but Skelton also deserves a ton of credit.

All that being said, I'm still eagerly awaiting to see what Kolb can do with THIS defense, as opposed to the defense he had in his first seven starts.

 

[Evil Ash]

Skelton is not a future top QB. Stop trying to make him something that he is not. He might develop into a solid backup, but that is it. He is too inaccurate to be anything more.

He's often inaccurate because of his mechanics. Those can be worked on believe it or not. He couldn't get help this past "offseason" - if you can call it that - due to the lockout.

Is he a QBOTF? Hard to say. He has flashes of brilliance and flashes of bad play so in short he looks like a developmental QB. I have a really hard time judging our QB play when its often a free run to our QBs because our OTs are so damn awful

 

[CFLredzoned]

I figured we were done when I saw him trotting on the field.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Can he pull himself together and not panic? I wonder if the time off actually helped him? When Kolb had games off, it helped him immensely to watch things from an outsiders shoes for those games. I know it was only 1 game off for Skelton. But things move fast in the NFL. Could he have actually grown in that one game off? He sure did look alot more comfortable anyway. Then again, there were alot of sloppy passes. Fitz bailed him out again. Kolb probably makes those passes. Maybe stays in the pocket to make them. I don't know. I think it's a good problem to have though. I think both guys are only going to make each other better.

 

[52brandon]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Can he pull himself together and not panic? I wonder if the time off actually helped him? When Kolb had games off, it helped him immensely to watch things from an outsiders shoes for those games. I know it was only 1 game off for Skelton. But things move fast in the NFL. Could he have actually grown in that one game off? He sure did look alot more comfortable anyway. Then again, there were alot of sloppy passes. Fitz bailed him out again. Kolb probably makes those passes. Maybe stays in the pocket to make them. I don't know. I think it's a good problem to have though. I think both guys are only going to make each other better.

wouldn't Skelton have learned from the first 7 games on the sidelines?

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Can he pull himself together and not panic? I wonder if the time off actually helped him? When Kolb had games off, it helped him immensely to watch things from an outsiders shoes for those games. I know it was only 1 game off for Skelton. But things move fast in the NFL. Could he have actually grown in that one game off? He sure did look alot more comfortable anyway. Then again, there were alot of sloppy passes. Fitz bailed him out again. Kolb probably makes those passes. Maybe stays in the pocket to make them. I don't know. I think it's a good problem to have though. I think both guys are only going to make each other better.

I am not going to say Kolb would not have won the game today, because obviously there is no way to prove that one way or the other. But I certainly dont think Kolb could have won it the same way Skelton did. Skelton was completing passes that were going a long way through the air, and whether people want to credit the receivers for making great catches or him for putting the balls in the right spots is irrelevant, Kolb simply does not make those kind of plays, his long plays come from long runs after the catch, not from long throws.