Are there still people drinking the Skelton kool-aid?

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Skelton made three decent throws in the game which were turned into huge yardage plays by his receivers. If you can get a good developmental prospect like RG3 in the draft than you throw Skelton to the wolves instantly because he is terrible.
 

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I am not going to say Kolb would not have won the game today, because obviously there is no way to prove that one way or the other. But I certainly dont think Kolb could have won it the same way Skelton did. Skelton was completing passes that were going a long way through the air, and whether people want to credit the receivers for making great catches or him for putting the balls in the right spots is irrelevant, Kolb simply does not make those kind of plays, his long plays come from long runs after the catch, not from long throws.
weren't all 3 big plays a lot of yards after the catch?
 

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I am not saying Skelton is absolutely the QBOTF but how can you guys write him so quick? Today was great progress for him. He actually completed over 60% of his passes. The Int were off tipped passes so I can't really count that against him. He didn't single handedly pull it off for us but he made the throws to put the points up on the board. What I like about Skelton is that even when he makes a mistake he continues to play like it didn't phase him. I say we keep it going for Kolb and Skelton, then draft o-line, and defense.
 

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Every team needs a guys on the team to give crucial depth and one of the most important spots is the backup QB. Heard a lot of coaches say that all they hope for of the backup QB is to win half the contests till the starter gets back in there. Skelton makes a good backup, and I don't care if he is ever our starter as much as what he fills on the team at the moment and he has won a majority of the games filling in. Is he a long term solution? I don't think so but hope for the best.
 

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Skelton made three decent throws in the game which were turned into huge yardage plays by his receivers. If you can get a good developmental prospect like RG3 in the draft than you throw Skelton to the wolves instantly because he is terrible.

:bigyawn:

Yes... why settle for the white Kevin Kolb when you can get the black Kevin Kolb for the low, low price of a first-round draft pick?
 

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For the people that were not impressed by Skelton today and say that he was inaccurate and made bad passes. He was 19/28 3 td's and 2 int. The int's were not his fault if you go back and look at the replays. Both of his int's were on the receivers. One was on Fitz and the other one was Roberts. Both of those balls should have been caught. Yes, the fumble was his fault, but certainly not the interceptions.
 

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For the people that were not impressed by Skelton today and say that he was inaccurate and made bad passes. He was 19/28 3 td's and 2 int. The int's were not his fault if you go back and look at the replays. Both of his int's were on the receivers. One was on Fitz and the other one was Roberts. Both of those balls should have been caught. Yes, the fumble was his fault, but certainly not the interceptions.

The pass to Roberts was in the wrong spot behind the receiver. The pass to Fitzgerald was poorly thrown and a poor decision. Don't throw late over the middle back across your body into traffic.

But Skelton made some great throws leading receivers as well.
 

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In the 9 games Skelton has played in, only once has he completed 60% or more of his passes. :shrug:
 

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Nothing wrong with giving Skelton props for the way he is playing. The way I see it he has only had 1 bad game this season. And there is no doubt that we wouldn't be 6-7 without him as the back up. I still call Kolb the starter and am VERY glad we have Skelton as the back up but the truth is that he wont be there for long. Someone is going to sign him as a starter.
 

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For the people that were not impressed by Skelton today and say that he was inaccurate and made bad passes. He was 19/28 3 td's and 2 int. The int's were not his fault if you go back and look at the replays. Both of his int's were on the receivers. One was on Fitz and the other one was Roberts. Both of those balls should have been caught. Yes, the fumble was his fault, but certainly not the interceptions.

That was NOT on Fitz there is a Cardinal rule to QB you do NOT throw late across the middle, especially across your body. He totally hung Fitz out to dry with a high throw that got him undercut.

The one on Roberts bad catch but the ball should never have been thrown into heavy coverage in the first place.
 

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In the 9 games Skelton has played in, only once has he completed 60% or more of his passes. :shrug:

Right now, with the pasthetic condition of our offensive line, Skelator is the best QB for the Cardinals. His size makes him hard to tackle and the ability to avoid the constant pressure is the most important quality for a Cardinal QB.

Skelton is just better at that than Kolb.
 

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If we continue to see the same Kolb we saw for the second half of the Dallas game, then I think that's the QB we need. He was accurate, poised, didn't make bad throws. The one thing that worries me about Skelton is the bad throws into coverage. I don't know if that can be coached out of him or not.

It's a shame we didn't get to see which Kolb we would see against an elite defense like San Fran. You have to hand it to Skelton though. He faced arguably the best defense in the league - and won. That was always the question with both of them. So you can beat the Rams, big deal. What happens when you face a truly elite defense? It's a completely different animal. So yeah, it's a shame we didn't get to see what Kolb would do - pick up where he left off against Dallas? Or revert back to bad habits?
 

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If we continue to see the same Kolb we saw for the second half of the Dallas game, then I think that's the QB we need. He was accurate, poised, didn't make bad throws. The one thing that worries me about Skelton is the bad throws into coverage. I don't know if that can be coached out of him or not.

It's a shame we didn't get to see which Kolb we would see against an elite defense like San Fran. You have to hand it to Skelton though. He faced arguably the best defense in the league - and won. That was always the question with both of them. So you can beat the Rams, big deal. What happens when you face a truly elite defense? It's a completely different animal. So yeah, it's a shame we didn't get to see what Kolb would do - pick up where he left off against Dallas? Or revert back to bad habits?

I will take any 2nd half Cards QB at this point. Leave those first half guys on the bench.
 

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It's a shame we didn't get to see which Kolb we would see against an elite defense like San Fran. You have to hand it to Skelton though. He faced arguably the best defense in the league - and won. That was always the question with both of them. So you can beat the Rams, big deal. What happens when you face a truly elite defense? It's a completely different animal. So yeah, it's a shame we didn't get to see what Kolb would do - pick up where he left off against Dallas? Or revert back to bad habits?

Based on what little I saw of him against San Fran, I saw Rob Johnson. Kolb should never have been injured, because he shouldn't have stood there like a statue for so long without any clue that a pass rush might happen to get to him.
 

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...and he's 6-3 in those games. I wonder which stat is more important.

Many of those games have been thanks to our defense.

At this point, Skelton is way to erratic for me to be a believer yet. Maybe some day, but not right now.
 

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Many of those games have been thanks to our defense.

At this point, Skelton is way to erratic for me to be a believer yet. Maybe some day, but not right now.

I Agree 100%.

Skeleton is doing exactly what you want from your backup QB with our defense playing the way it is. So right now I'm comfortable with him being the Cards backup moving forward.

As for him as a full time starter I'm just not sure. Skelton didn't look off a single pass yesterday. He just locks onto his main WR and forces it in there. Thankfully it worked out for him today. However that won't always be the case.

Will Skeleton ever become comfortable enough with the offense to progress through multiple WRs? Only time will tell.
 
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Based on what little I saw of him against San Fran, I saw Rob Johnson. Kolb should never have been injured, because he shouldn't have stood there like a statue for so long without any clue that a pass rush might happen to get to him.

he should have ran it was a 3 step drop and SF apparently covered the short routes. he was waiting on King to open up far right but he should have just ran with the ball.

That bugs me with both him and Skelton the QB run has been there for both much of the year they don't do it enough.l When teams play a safety over the top against Fitz or man coverage, there is always a chance the QB can run, we don't do it enough.
 

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I Agree 100%.

Skeleton is doing exactly what you want from your backup QB with our defense playing the way it is. So right now I'm comfortable with him being the Cards backup moving forward.

As for him as a full time starter I'm just not sure. Skelton didn't look off a single pass yesterday. He just locks onto his main WR and forces it in there. Thankfully it worked out for him today. However that won't always be the case.

Will Skeleton ever become comfortable enough with the offense to progress through multiple WRs? Only time will tell.

They had one shot yesterday where he looked left and then late came back over the middle to the right for a first down, forget to who. But yeah he does just look at the primary guy and wait.

If Kolb had his sense in the pocket he'd be much better, Skelton doesn't panic although he did nearly get a safety by holdign the ball so long.
 

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They had one shot yesterday where he looked left and then late came back over the middle to the right for a first down, forget to who. But yeah he does just look at the primary guy and wait.

If Kolb had his sense in the pocket he'd be much better, Skelton doesn't panic although he did nearly get a safety by holdign the ball so long.

And then running backwards towards the endzone. :bang:
 

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They had one shot yesterday where he looked left and then late came back over the middle to the right for a first down, forget to who. But yeah he does just look at the primary guy and wait.

If Kolb had his sense in the pocket he'd be much better, Skelton doesn't panic although he did nearly get a safety by holdign the ball so long.

Roberts. It was an encouraging sign, but there were many where he locked onto Fitz.
 

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Many of those games have been thanks to our defense.

At this point, Skelton is way to erratic for me to be a believer yet. Maybe some day, but not right now.

Because Kolb has been a model of consistency and poise? C'mon.

If it's a question between Skelton and the best two-thirds of the quarterbacks in the NFL, I'll take the legit starters. If it's Skelton versus Kolb? I'll take Skelton.
 

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That was NOT on Fitz there is a Cardinal rule to QB you do NOT throw late across the middle, especially across your body. He totally hung Fitz out to dry with a high throw that got him undercut.

The one on Roberts bad catch but the ball should never have been thrown into heavy coverage in the first place.

you are right Russ -- that attempt to Fitz was a terrible decision. Already in FG range, possibility of running for the first down -- you just cant throw high into the middle of the defense.

and FWIW - he was late on the Roberts throw.
 

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I beg to differ with you. When a receiver can get both hands on the ball he should catch it. That goes for Fitz and Roberts both.
 

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