Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers Pregame Thread. 9/26/22-10/02/22

[Jetstream Green]

I know I posted this last week, but the issue is that teams are getting guys open quick and guys aren't finishing even though they are beating blocks.

The Rams only pressured Murray 7 times in like 50 something drop backs, so the OL did their job.

It looked like the OL was horrid watching the game, especially Justin Pugh. The Ram DL out physical them again

 

[football karma]

One could imagine eating Kliff's deal if this season really ends in catastrophe. It would probably have to be like 5-12.

something a NFL person said that sticks with me: unlike players, Coach and GM contracts arent posted publicly.

possible that the 5 years isnt a true 5 years ( like a team option on years 4 and 5, as an example).

 

[Totally_Red]

I dunno. He got an extension but you imagine that his assistants are pretty inexpensive. Michael just got out from under the cost of Wilks' staff.

I'd guess the entire defensive staff is not under contract for 2023. You're probably paying Kliff as a bottom five coach (or at least somewhere in the middle) -- they certainly didn't release his salary updates.

One could imagine eating Kliff's deal if this season really ends in catastrophe. It would probably have to be like 5-12.

It's kind of fascinating that there's so much doom and gloom on the board right now. We're 1-2. Those games don't feel great, but this team didn't work much or much together in the preseason. It's not outside the realm of possibility that guys start working together and this ship gets righted.

The franchise took a hit after firing Wilks after ONE season. They would have trouble getting a decent coach if they fire Kliff this soon IMO. I suspect Kliff got extended because a lot of prime coaching candidates want no part of coaching Kyler.

Tua and the dude in Philly are more coachable.

 

[football karma]

something about the teal and black colors on the Panthers that makes the Cards wet the bed

its one thing to lose to Cam Newton in his prime -- but lately its been PJ Walker, Teddy Bridgewater and Kyle Allen at QB who scored 31, 38 and 34 points in those games.

 

[kerouac9]

The franchise took a hit after firing Wilks after ONE season. They would have trouble getting a decent coach if they fire Kliff this soon IMO. I suspect Kliff got extended because a lot of prime coaching candidates want no part of coaching Kyler.

Tua and the dude in Philly are more coachable.

Yeah, but Wilks was well-respected around the league and got saddled with a legitimately terrible roster.

I don't think that the NFL has a high opinion of Kliff and would believe it supports the order of the league to have him out of it. I think the Cards will get more blowback if they canned Vance Joseph.

 

[football karma]

I think the Cards will get more blowback if they canned Vance Joseph.

as an aside, given the Flores / Wilks suit -- letting go Vance while keeping Keim and Kliff would not be a good fact for the team

 

[Bkbobo]

Kyler and the receivers need to do some extra route running and talking about expectations. They need to work on building cohesiveness. Heck Kyler should have the WR group stay with him all week.

 

[Snakester]

I think we win because our backs are against the wall. Murray has a decent game because he has to play good one out of every four games plus we are on the road which seems like the only time this team shows up because they sure can’t do it at home.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The franchise took a hit after firing Wilks after ONE season. They would have trouble getting a decent coach if they fire Kliff this soon IMO. I suspect Kliff got extended because a lot of prime coaching candidates want no part of coaching Kyler.

Tua and the dude in Philly are more coachable.

Getting a job coaching in the NFL is an exclusive position, sought after by many who are qualified but still cannot get a shot. Those who do aspire to coach at this level have a level of confidence where ego is actually a virtue at times, especially the top dogs vying for the chance to enter the arena again. I highly doubt any coach sees Kyler as a blatant red flag and actually probably the opposite... it would be the recent history of ownership and Keim that would dissuade them, and not this QB (though he has his unique drawbacks of size and questionable character by the public narrative) who won rookie of the year and has some Pro Bowls (regardless of the water down actual reality of the event, it's still based on a favorable opinion no matter how skewed) for taking the job

 

[Cheesebeef]

as an aside, given the Flores / Wilks suit -- letting go Vance while keeping Keim and Kliff would not be a good fact for the team

Man... that will really be a BAD look.

 

[BritCard]

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[BritCard]

Ravens tried to sign him. Thompson cut.

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[kerouac9]

Ravens tried to sign him. Thompson cut.

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Deionte? Interesting. I wonder if he'll be added to the practice squad.

 

[Garthshort]

Probably. Unless Carolina needs him for intel.

 

[phillycard]

Nope, board-wide as far as I know.

Ehh?? You mean we can cuss on the day after the game?! I purposefully avoid the board the day of or after a loss for this very reason.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Ehh?? You mean we can cuss on the day after the game?! I purposefully avoid the board the day of or after a loss for this very reason.

Not gratuitously, but yeah. We do allow a mini leash after losses.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

19. Arizona Cardinals (1-2)​

Week 3 ranking: 14

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Team QBR: 47.9
QBR rank: 15th

As goes Kyler Murray, so go the Cardinals. He only has 68 rushing yards in three games this season, which is why, in large part, the Cardinals' record is 1-2. From a throwing standpoint he's playing like his typical self. But as a runner, Murray isn't using his legs like he can, and to win the Cardinals need Murray to run. -- Josh Weinfuss

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[AZ Native]

That's true. But if you ask any team before the game if they can live with Kupp only getting 64 total yards a only 1 TD. Every team in the league will take that. Every single one.

His TD run was the difference in the game. Who cares what other teams think. It was the difference in the game.

 

[JosiahLee]

His TD run was the difference in the game. Who cares what other teams think. It was the difference in the game.

Yeah but it really wasn’t at that point in the game.

I would say Zaven Collins missing the easy sack on Stafford on 3rd down late in the 3rd quarter when it was still 13-9 was a back breaking play. Rams were stuck doing nothing for a few quarters at that point and if they punt it’s interesting how the end result might have played out differently.

 

[AZ Native]

Stafford did a spin move on Collins. If it were easy he would have make the play. We can't allow allow any TE to waltz into the end zone untouched. Take that play away and it is a different ball game. Huge play for them.

 

[Garthshort]

His TD run was the difference in the game. Who cares what other teams think. It was the difference in the game.

So, us only scoring 12 points had nothing to do with it?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Ah, let's not take the fun out of it.

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My sister in law has quoted this on race day for years. No idea it was from this incredibly stupid show

 

[Chopper0080]

Ravens tried to sign him. Thompson cut.

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I missed where it was said the Ravens tried to sign him

 

[JohnnyCakes]

My sister in law has quoted this on race day for years. No idea it was from this incredibly stupid show

youre the only person alive that doesnt enjoy Seinfeld.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

youre the only person alive that doesnt enjoy Seinfeld.

I have watched 5 episodes and didn't laugh once. I just do not get the humor at all.

I even watched the soup one and I was like, just go get soup somewhere else. You live in New York for petes sake