Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[Ronin]

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[slanidrac16]

That Lombardi Trophy looks great there in Santa Clara! Oh wait...

Maybe only a participation trophy. But they certainly didn’t fold up like a cheap tent because of injuries.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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I’d like his addition

 

[slanidrac16]

I’d like his addition

I would be very happy with this.

See Brit and Quebec?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I’d like his addition

He's a nice dual threat...Caught 47 for 452 last year.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Looks like a good Edmonds-like counterpart for Conner.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

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Straight from Mount Gumbo...

 

[QuebecCard]

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[BritCard]

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This would be great. Mentioned Williams earlier today. Had over 1000 scrimmage yards last year.

 

[BritCard]

I would be very happy with this.

See Brit and Quebec?

I see that if you're patient and wait then the signings will come

(hopefully)

 

[Stout]

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He would be a good signing at a decent price.

 

[Stout]

I see that if you're patient and wait then the signings will come

(hopefully)

I wasn't terribly worried about the RB position. I'd like this signing. Until and unless we patch some major holes, though...

 

[Dayman]

Williams would be a good get. He is a step down from Chase, most likely, but he would be a solid addition.

 

[Chopper0080]

My fear is that this offseason is a pissing match between the Cardinals and Kyler(his agent as well). The Cardinals saying that if Kyler wants to be paid like a top QB, he has to make the most out of lesser talent. Kyler(agent) saying that this team would be nothing without him.

I feel like both parties have shown they are capable of this type of behavior.

 

[Chopper0080]

I am glad we added a body at RB prior to the draft. I don't imagine he will cost much as he was benched in the playoffs for Jerrick McKinnon. Nice competition for Eno and Ward.

 

[slanidrac16]

I wasn't terribly worried about the RB position. I'd like this signing. Until and unless we patch some major holes, though...

I was because if Conner were to go Down we’d suddenly be down to Eno and Ward. Neither could crack the line up when Edmonds got hurt and then when Conner went down.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I dunno. Baltimore got pretty run over by injuries, and they were still in 1st place in the AFC on December 1. IMO injuries were a major contributor to Kyle Shanahan's record as HC, which @Krangodnzr was hammering on though essentially the middle of last season.


Sorry, the whole point of AGL is to take into account the value of the players who are hurt.

And you know as well as I do that winning the Super Bowl isn't the sole measure of a team's success in a given season. The 49ers won two playoff games and were in a position to make the Super Bowl with worse injury luck than we had.

That's fair. You can't be surprised when oft-injured players are injured. That's one of the reasons that people depending on Rondale Moore to carry a heavier load in 2022 are so hilarious. He couldn't handle the load of a gadget player without getting injured his rookie season.

When he was needed most, he was on the sideline nursing some soft-tissue injury and giving up snaps to Antoine Wesley.

LOL the Niners were healthy down the stretch. Most of that AGL was accrued early and mid season. Nice try but that argument is hogwash.

Context matters. The Niners had their whole contingency of stars healthy for the playoffs.

 

[juza76]

LOL the Niners were healthy down the stretch. Most of that AGL was accrued early and mid season. Nice try but that argument is hogwash.

Context matters. The Niners had their whole contingency of stars healthy for the playoffs.

Both teams have much better depth thats why they overcome injuries

 

[football karma]

Context matters. The Niners had their whole contingency of stars healthy for the playoffs.

the "when" people are injured matters. Having your best players healthy for the playoffs matters

that said, i am not sure Hopkins being healthy would have resulted in a deep playoff run -- that wouldnt have solved the issue of the o-line and entire defense regressing terribly over the last 6 weeks of the season

maybe they score enough to beat Seattle in the final week -- and get by a low scoring SF team in round 1 (hardly a certainty), but after that......

 

[kerouac9]

LOL the Niners were healthy down the stretch. Most of that AGL was accrued early and mid season. Nice try but that argument is hogwash.

Context matters. The Niners had their whole contingency of stars healthy for the playoffs.

Okay, so it's not only WHO gets hurt, it's WHEN they get hurt that's important. Got it.

2021 San Francisco 49ers Injuries | Pro-Football-Reference.com

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That's a lot of red. Javon Kinlaw, Mike McGlinchey, Raheem Mostert, Sanu... Lost George Kittle for one fewer game than we lost Hopkins.

It's a wonder they even made the playoffs, huh?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Okay, so it's not only WHO gets hurt, it's WHEN they get hurt that's important. Got it.

LOL.

2021 San Francisco 49ers Injuries | Pro-Football-Reference.com

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That's a lot of red. Javon Kinlaw, Mike McGlinchey, Raheem Mostert, Sanu... Lost George Kittle for one fewer game than we lost Hopkins.

Javon Kinlaw didn't really hurt them. Dude was straight trash before his injury. Raheem Mostert? Seriously?!? McGlinchey is a nice player.

It's a wonder they even made the playoffs, huh?

Yep. Steady QB play and a good running game keep things close

 

[Krangodnzr]

the "when" people are injured matters. Having your best players healthy for the playoffs matters

Exactly.

that said, i am not sure Hopkins being healthy would have resulted in a deep playoff run -- that wouldnt have solved the issue of the o-line and entire defense regressing terribly over the last 6 weeks of the season

Kyler Murray's late season nosedive certainly doomed the team.

maybe they score enough to beat Seattle in the final week -- and get by a low scoring SF team in round 1 (hardly a certainty), but after that......

For a litany of reasons, the Cardinals weren't good at the end of the season.

 

[BritCard]

Okay, so it's not only WHO gets hurt, it's WHEN they get hurt that's important. Got it.

2021 San Francisco 49ers Injuries | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the 2021 San Francisco 49ers complete injury report with injury totals and more on Pro-Football-Reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

That's a lot of red. Javon Kinlaw, Mike McGlinchey, Raheem Mostert, Sanu... Lost George Kittle for one fewer game than we lost Hopkins.

It's a wonder they even made the playoffs, huh?

To be fair what that shows is that they got Sanu, Greenlaw, Hurst, and Moseley back for the run in and playoffs and didn't lose any starters after week 12.

 

[football karma]

one last injury thing i think about:

had DHop gotten hurt a couple weeks earlier: Keim likely goes hard after OBJ vs the cursory kicking of tires

 

[BritCard]

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