Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[BritCard]

Yours for only $3000

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[Krangodnzr]

There are a lot of if’s (can Moore take next step, can someone else fill Edmonds role, who takes moore’s old production?), but if they’re answered in the affirmative I agree. Still lots of if’s.

And I definitely would’ve inquired about cooks.

Always lots of ifs.

Always.

 

[Shane]

Yours for only $3000

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@dreamcastrocks you need this in the man cave

 

[Dayman]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

@dreamcastrocks you need this in the man cave

Tape four TV’s together with cardboard cutouts. Won’t cost you near $3,000

 

[slanidrac16]

Boom…. Says it all

Oh! So it’s not just the darksiders! I see!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

@dreamcastrocks you need this in the man cave

No I don't. lol

 

[Ronin]

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[football karma]

two stats that point the way:


the first:

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said differently: defenses played two high safeties lots against the Cards -- and the Cards ran into it. So far so good.

the problem: even with scrambles, they only averaged 4.2 yards a carry -- bottom third in the league.

until the Card offense can make teams pay for playing light boxes, the passing game will see teams play coverage heavy defenses.

If I had to pick one thing that explains the offensive problems the last third of the season: this is the one.

 

[BritCard]

two stats that point the way:


the first:

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said differently: defenses played two high safeties lots against the Cards -- and the Cards ran into it. So far so good.

the problem: even with scrambles, they only averaged 4.2 yards a carry -- bottom third in the league.

until the Card offense can make teams pay for playing light boxes, the passing game will see teams play coverage heavy defenses.

If I had to pick one thing that explains the offensive problems the last third of the season: this is the one.

I don't see think this current team is ever going to be great runners. The O line is built to Pass pro and the run is an after thought.

What success it has in the run game is built on misdirection rather than solid fundamentals.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

two stats that point the way:


the first:

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said differently: defenses played two high safeties lots against the Cards -- and the Cards ran into it. So far so good.

the problem: even with scrambles, they only averaged 4.2 yards a carry -- bottom third in the league.

until the Card offense can make teams pay for playing light boxes, the passing game will see teams play coverage heavy defenses.

If I had to pick one thing that explains the offensive problems the last third of the season: this is the one.

Interesting. And you’re right, if you can’t make them pay for sitting in pass defense sets with a devastating - or at least opportunistic) run game you’ve essentially hamstrung yourself offensively before the game has even begun.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't see think this current team is ever going to be great runners. The O line is built to Pass pro and the run is an after thought.

What success it has in the run game is built on misdirection rather than solid fundamentals.

I think the primary takeaway there is if the cards were even average (forget “great”) running the ball they would gash most teams on the ground because they are facing light boxes a disproportionate amount of time. This in turn would require the defense bring their safeties up thereby unleashing our deep passing game with more opportunities. The fact they can essentially make our run game average using pass defense sets is a win-win for them.

Frankly this makes conners YPC last season look even worse.

 

[Ronin]

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[kerouac9]

Interesting. And you’re right, if you can’t make them pay for sitting in pass defense sets with a devastating - or at least opportunistic) run game you’ve essentially hamstrung yourself offensively before the game has even begun.

Thank God we just paid our running back $10 million a year who couldn't succeed against those light boxes.

 

[Ronin]

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[Krangodnzr]

I think the primary takeaway there is if the cards were even average (forget “great”) running the ball they would gash most teams on the ground because they are facing light boxes a disproportionate amount of time. This in turn would require the defense bring their safeties up thereby unleashing our deep passing game with more opportunities. The fact they can essentially make our run game average using pass defense sets is a win-win for them.

Frankly this makes conners YPC last season look even worse.

Part of it is trying to run from shotgun all of the time, and the other part is that while most of the OL is adequate-decent pass blockers, they won't be confused as a good run blocking line.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

two stats that point the way:


the first:

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said differently: defenses played two high safeties lots against the Cards -- and the Cards ran into it. So far so good.

the problem: even with scrambles, they only averaged 4.2 yards a carry -- bottom third in the league.

until the Card offense can make teams pay for playing light boxes, the passing game will see teams play coverage heavy defenses.

If I had to pick one thing that explains the offensive problems the last third of the season: this is the one.

Take Maxxxx out of the equation, and our running game basically fell apart.

Happy he's back, but considering his injury history, Maxx lasting a whole season is tenuous at best.

 

[football karma]

I think the primary takeaway there is if the cards were even average (forget “great”) running the ball they would gash most teams on the ground because they are facing light boxes a disproportionate amount of time. This in turn would require the defense bring their safeties up thereby unleashing our deep passing game with more opportunities. The fact they can essentially make our run game average using pass defense sets is a win-win for them.

DJ Humphries is the o line starter with a better than average run blocking grade (per PFF)

everyone else is in the 50's

if i were GM, i would make it priority to upgrade the right side of the line. Beachum is a nice player in pass pro, but his run blocking isnt good

 

[Metcalf Rules]

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Great. Another chance for Keim to pass up on a pure bred German Shepard for a mutt from a division 2 kennel.

 

[BritCard]

Thank God we just paid our running back $10 million a year who couldn't succeed against those light boxes.

Its $7m but what's 45% out between friends

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Plus whatever he counts against the cap from last year.

 

[SoonerLou]

Thank God we just paid our running back $10 million a year who couldn't succeed against those light boxes.

Well to be fair. We do have Will Hernandez now who was pretty good 3 years ago. So there's always that.

 

[jf-08]

Part of it is trying to run from shotgun all of the time, and the other part is that while most of the OL is adequate-decent pass blockers, they won't be confused as a good run blocking line.

^^^^^^^^^ this cannot be stressed enough.

 

[Ronin]

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[SoonerLou]

@DVontel Where were you on Toney and what would you give up?

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