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Eagles will be without a starting-level QB if they trade Foles within a time frame that would help the Cards.

Wentz is coming off a ACL/PCL injury that takes at least 12 months to fully heal. That puts Wentz's return into late next year.

Eagles need to keep Foles and find a back-up QB to him going into next season. In fact, Eagles may be another competition for a vet QB to the Cards---not a team that is going to graciously trade their SB MVP and healthy QB to us for some lower round picks.
 

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Eagles will be without a starting-level QB if they trade Foles within a time frame that would help the Cards.

Wentz is coming off a ACL/PCL injury that takes at least 12 months to fully heal. That puts Wentz's return into late next year.

Eagles need to keep Foles and find a back-up QB to him going into next season. In fact, Eagles may be another competition for a vet QB to the Cards---not a team that is going to graciously trade their SB MVP and healthy QB to us for some lower round picks.

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Eagles will be without a starting-level QB if they trade Foles within a time frame that would help the Cards.

Wentz is coming off a ACL/PCL injury that takes at least 12 months to fully heal. That puts Wentz's return into late next year.

Eagles need to keep Foles and find a back-up QB to him going into next season. In fact, Eagles may be another competition for a vet QB to the Cards---not a team that is going to graciously trade their SB MVP and healthy QB to us for some lower round picks.
Nothing is certain, but reports say it's realistic for him to be ready for the opener. I think the smart and conservative approach is for the Eagles to do exactly what you're saying, but they very well could be losing out on draft assets they could use after giving up so much for Wentz, and having no cap room. Also, if Foles tells them he wants a chance to start and be the man somewhere, they may grant him that wish after what he did for that franchise and city.
 

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It will be interesting to watch this as the market for Foles is at an all time high. The will change as teams fill their qb needs in free agency and the draft.
 

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They aren't dealing Foles for two 3rd round picks unless they hold him till the trade deadline.
http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...de-carson-wentz-doesnt-look-so-costly-anymore

It'll be interesting to see what they (try and)get for Foles. After all was said and done, they were basically out a 3rd round pick with Wentz. Which is what Washington traded + a player to get Alex Smith, who was the top-rated QB in the league. I'm sure the Eagles will try and get as much as they can for Foles but as popular as he is right now, it's a buyer's market for QB's this year. I think if the Eagles can get a 2nd from someone for Foles, that they'd take it.
 

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Wait...what???? Weren't we all tank for better draft pick, like yesterday? I hope we lose by 50 some weeks ago? I know hyperbole....
The higher the pick the less likely Keim can mess it up because he’s selecting from a pool of higher quality. Does that concept not make sense to you?
 

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The higher the pick the less likely Keim can mess it up because he’s selecting from a pool of higher quality. Does that concept not make sense to you?

LOL...not a ringing endorsement for the GM if that's the thinking. LOL
 

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We are likely never going to agree on a QB---different strokes for different folks.

On ROTB yesterday, one poster was adamant that "Nick Foles has a low ceiling."

Man, isn't putting in a Warner-esque, near picture perfect MVP performance in the Super Bowl over Tom Brady and the Patriots on the brightest, pressure packed stage of all the highest ceiling imaginable?

Foles had to be outstanding from start to finish to win that game (like Warner vs. GB in 2009) and if that doesn't impress someone, then nothing ever will.
Absolutely 100% Foles was great Sunday. But let’s not make it out like he single handedly shouldered the team to victory. Didn’t the eagles run for 160+ yards? Makes Foles job a lot easier with safeties pulled up. And his receivers made some impressive catches over defenders and breaking tackles. Taking not much away from Foles but he had a LOT of help.
 

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We are likely never going to agree on a QB---different strokes for different folks.

On ROTB yesterday, one poster was adamant that "Nick Foles has a low ceiling."

If winning the Super Bowl MVP is a low ceiling, I'll gladly bump my head on that ceiling.

Here's the problem with some Cardinal fans in the Valley when evaluating Nick Foles: Many of whom are Sun Devil fans and many are Wildcat fans, so there is inherent bias one way or another. Sun Devil fans can be overly bearish on Wildcat players and Wildcat fans can be overly bullish; and definitely the other way around. ROTB is also predominately ASU fans/alum, so consider the source. Had Nick Foles stayed at Michigan State and played the way he did at UofA, there would be more honest assessments of him coming to the Cardinals

In short, you're going to have very divergent opinions on Nick Foles as a starter.

I'm not saying that there aren't ASU fans who can be objective and honest, but there are many that see the Block "A" and it skews their opinion.

For ASU fans who may respond and call me a UofA homer: I wanted D.J. Foster on this team in the draft in the worst way.
 

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About the only reason I can conjecture that would prompt the Eagles to trade Foles this off-season is the desire to avoid a QB controversy within the team ranks.

When you have two starting level QBs on the team, players will rally around their favorite and the locker room can split between supporters of one guy over the other.

For the Eagles, this is bound to happen once Wentz is ready to return. If Foles is the starter and the team is doing well, there will be those who will want to stick with Foles. If Wentz comes in and stutters, Foles supporters will be wanting him to go back in. It can lead to disruption and is one reason the HC names the starter and sends the message to the entire team who is in.

Pederson has already announced that Wentz is the starter---even before the victory parade and Foles MVP trophy had made it to his mantle.
 

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Eagles will be without a starting-level QB if they trade Foles within a time frame that would help the Cards.

Wentz is coming off a ACL/PCL injury that takes at least 12 months to fully heal. That puts Wentz's return into late next year.

Eagles need to keep Foles and find a back-up QB to him going into next season. In fact, Eagles may be another competition for a vet QB to the Cards---not a team that is going to graciously trade their SB MVP and healthy QB to us for some lower round picks.

The Eagles are very high on Nate Sudfeld. I
http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...de-carson-wentz-doesnt-look-so-costly-anymore

It'll be interesting to see what they (try and)get for Foles. After all was said and done, they were basically out a 3rd round pick with Wentz. Which is what Washington traded + a player to get Alex Smith, who was the top-rated QB in the league. I'm sure the Eagles will try and get as much as they can for Foles but as popular as he is right now, it's a buyer's market for QB's this year. I think if the Eagles can get a 2nd from someone for Foles, that they'd take it.


Foles in Buffalo with all of the changes in New England could make the AFC East interesting since Brady became Brady. Theyd give up a second round pick tomorrow if it would let them keep their two first rounders and trade for Foles



Didn't mean to quote you gimmedabsll, sorry.
 
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The Eagles are very high on Nate Sudfeld. I



Foles in Buffalo with all of the changes in New England could make the AFC East interesting since Brady became Brady. Theyd give up a second round pick tomorrow if it would let them keep their two first rounders and trade for Foles



Didn't mean to quote you gimmedabsll, sorry.
Buffalo's one of those blind spot teams for me. I mean, I don't imagine ANY QB doing well there so it's hard for me to guess at who they should go after. Foles doesn't seem like he's suited for swirling winds and bad weather to me so I wouldn't peg the Bills as a landing spot but who knows?
 

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Hey, Foles is a Texas boy and you do not see this Native Texan fawning like it's the first time I ever saw a picture of an athlete with his child after winning a game or finding Jesus because Zach Ertz informs me about Him, or that he was simply amazing when his career clearly shows Pederson was half the reason he was able to do what he did, or the Patriot defense is not horrible, and... never mind, can we draft 'our' QB already, our guy :)
 

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