AYTON TRADED!

[Yuma]

I'm familiar with the story but Boston chose Tatum. We never had the chance to choose Tatum because he was already off the board. Maybe we'd have blown it because of Sarver but we didn't have the opportunity.

True, but we would have blown it. He quite literally had his hands in everything, but not in a good way.

 

[AzStevenCal]

True, but we would have blown it. He quite literally had his hands in everything, but not in a good way.

Yep and he kept saying he'd turned over a new leaf and some of us kept believing him each time. He probably did step back a little several times but never far enough. And while he wasn't stupid, he was nowhere near as smart as he thought he was. Just a bad mix all around.

 

[Germz249]

What I regret mow is not taking chances. Like not resigning Joe Johnson. Suns not trying to draft Tatum because our owner is a dumbA$$. The chances you don't take sometimes are worse than the ones you do.

What could we have done? Boston drafted ahead of us.

 

[Phrazbit]

What could we have done? Boston drafted ahead of us.

Supposedly Boston wanted Josh Jackson but we convinced Jackson not to work out with them.

 

[Mainstreet]

Supposedly Boston wanted Josh Jackson but we convinced Jackson not to work out with them.

Even if Jackson worked out for Boston, I think they had the smarts to draft Tatum.

Fox should have been the Suns pick at #4.

 

[Superbone]

Even if Jackson worked for Boston, I think they had the smarts to draft Tatum.

Fox should have been the Suns pick at #4.

Yep, pretty sure Tatum was Boston's guy all the way in spite of McD thinking he had outsmarted them. McD was the fool in this case.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yep, pretty sure Tatum was Boston's guy all the way in spite of McD thinking he had outsmarted them. McD was the fool in this case.

He was. Danny played Ryan for a fool, not the other way around IMO.

 

[Germz249]

There was a possible move that almost happened but it didn’t materialize. Still a slight chance. I can't really get into the details. Any information leaked could cause these moves to fall through.

Talking to the big dogs..The top brass.. the big cheese.. at our weekly waffle house meeting.. The organization knows that Nurkic is a step down from Ayton but with Book, Beal and KD on the court Ayton role would have been smaller. They feel the small role that Ayton would be playing could be filled by Nurkic. So with that thought they felt getting the extra pieces in the trade would strengthen our bench.

All that crap that was said was just me thinking we were trading Grayson Allen before media day since we haven't heard from him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yep, true, our pockets are empty but it's refreshing to have a FO that really goes 100 % for championship. That's unusual for a Suns club. We'll be here to witness it this season.

When Durant's contract expires we'll have some room for signing new players and have another go with Booker or whoever is left. Maybe we can trade for some picks. Good to have shed Ayton's contract though.

Go Suns!

We will also have more future picks to trade.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You called it:
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Holy crap he looks skinny.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We'll see! There are many many examples outside of Jordan of owners being too involved - if anyone can think of examples of meddling owners being a good thing, I'd love to know them.

Yes - he spent the money and can do what he wants. But the best thing owners can do is let the people they're paying to do their jobs....do their jobs.

Cuban has been a mixed bag. But he lifted up a moribund franchise, got them a championship and has always been aggressive pursuing a winner.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I agree that he shouldn't be going beyond the boundaries of his job, but I don't think his limited skill as a basketball player has much to do with it. Quite a number of All-Star players have tried to become executives after their playing careers, and most have failed. The only guy who seemed to be able to do it all was Bird.

Jerry west was a great player and gm

 

[Yuma]

It wasn't rather we could or couldn't have drafted Tatum. You guys are missing the point. The point of the story is Sarver's thinking. We already had a three point shooter, so let's pass up on a great talent because you are an idiot. It's his reasoning is the point of the story. If we drafted ahead of Boston, he would have had us pass on Tatum. That's the point. He should trust his basketball front office to give him info on who to take. Not make up some dumb a$$ rational on his own.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It wasn't rather we could or couldn't have drafted Tatum. You guys are missing the point. The point of the story is Sarver's thinking. We already had a three point shooter, so let's pass up on a great talent because you are an idiot. It's his reasoning is the point of the story. If we drafted ahead of Boston, he would have had us pass on Tatum. That's the point. He should trust his basketball front office to give him info on who to take. Not make up some dumb a$$ rational on his own.

Who's Sarver?

 

[taz02]

Who's idea was it to pass on Luka?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Who's idea was it to pass on Luka?

I'm not sure we'll ever know, it's not like it's a shining moment for the organization. My guess, it was a group decision but neither Ryan nor Robert were strongly in Luka's camp. I figure if Sarver really wanted him, we'd have drafted him no matter if there was opposition in the organization especially when you consider what a cash cow Luka was expected to be. And if Ryan really wanted Luka, he'd be crowing about it, in no uncertain terms, into every mic he faced.

 

[Sparky16]

Vecenie is connected, so I tend to believe him when he comments like this. The market indicated that DA was worth the 5-year max for players with no ASG appearence or other awards. Whether you or me disagree is an entirely different story. Even if he signed that, it wouldn’t have reset the market for bigs. You can’t fault a guy for being frustrated about the way the negotiations went. In fact, he made one public comment and that was it. I mean, that’s like getting upset about 3/4ths of athletes’ contract situations. I’ve just concluded that they’re all stupid and have become numb to it.

As for Ayton’s inconsistency, he has to take responsibility for that. But there’s also the fact that him and the coaching staff had mismatching views on how to use him.

I can’t wait for this topic to fizzle out so we can get back to whining about more important things.

DA was only motivated by $$, the team knew it. If not for stupid Indiana he would have had to sign a prove it it deal. As expected, DA cared even less after getting the extension. He will fail in PDX

 

[Sparky16]

A lot of guys on talk radio had him above Nurkic on the trade on who they liked in our trade. Not that he's necessarily better than Nurkic, but they like his hustle. Kind of replaces the tough guy element we are missing.

Dude would have done wonders in the DEN series

 

[Mainstreet]

It wasn't rather we could or couldn't have drafted Tatum. You guys are missing the point. The point of the story is Sarver's thinking. We already had a three point shooter, so let's pass up on a great talent because you are an idiot. It's his reasoning is the point of the story. If we drafted ahead of Boston, he would have had us pass on Tatum. That's the point. He should trust his basketball front office to give him info on who to take. Not make up some dumb a$$ rational on his own.

The Suns scouting outside the NBA has been suspect for a long time. This is an area of the team that has been ignored for many years.

An obvious need in the 2017 draft was a point guard and it coincided with BPA at #4, De'Aaron Fox.

 

[Germz249]

Beal and Wall have been working out together. Possible chance Suns might explore a reunion.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

DA is going to love Portland. They really show a lot of support for bums.

 

[Mainstreet]

Beal and Wall have been working out together. Possible chance Suns might explore a reunion.

This is an interesting tidbit.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Beal and Wall have been working out together. Possible chance Suns might explore a reunion.

Are you still channeling Flex or did you actually read or hear this somewhere?

 

[Cheesebeef]

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Beal and Wall have been working out together. Possible chance Suns might explore a reunion.

Blegh. Wall hit the proverbial Wall a long time ago. He’s got no game now.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Blegh. Wall hit the proverbial Wall a long time ago. He’s got no game now.
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His game was predicated on speed and athleticism. Not much of that left.