AZ CUTS - As they come in.

[MrYeahBut]

Depth Chart Updated on azcardinals.com, in case you were wondering where there might still be a chance for some movement:

http://www.azcardinals.com/team/depth-chart.html

Skelton is #2 and Bartel is #3, so I guess nothing really changed in the last 2 games.

Adams listed as 1st RCB

heaven help us

 

[THESMEL]

dunno

I got to beleive Horton diidn't want them, already has better scoped out! I like Reggie Walker, Don't know why just took a liking to him as a rookie #55.

I like Me Some Sherman, I think He will be a great FB, I wanna see him run it a bit too. Crazy run it!


Hope Tally can play OLB?

Originally signed with the Green Bay Packers as a rookie free agent on 5/1/09. Released by the Packers and re-signed to the practice squad on 9/6/09, where he spent the remainder of the season. Re-signed to a future contract by the Packers on 1/11/10 before being released following training camp on 9/4/10. Signed to the Cardinals practice squad on 11/9/10 and signed to a future contract by Arizona on 1/6/11.

Yeah it looks exactly like the depth chart they've always had on azcardinals.com except for the two guys injured: RWilliams and Toler.

And who the heck is Ronald Talley?

 

[TJ]

Number of position players compared to last season:

 

[DemsMyBoys]

My initial reaction is this is just plain foolishness, Whiz style.

Welcome back, Mitch.

Good to see Irene didn't make you soft.

 

[Dayman]

They cut Togafau???

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I laughed about this for a solid minute. Well done, sir.

I'd also like to add that Maui'a played well enough to make the team. He was an understandable victim of the numbers game, but he should catch on somewhere else.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Cut 2 TE's for a CB and SS hopefully???? Or another RB? Who the hell has 5 TE's on 1 roster

 

[BigRedRage]

nice graphic, not too different from last year. I can see spach leaving for A RB and an LB moving for a CB

 

[Mainstreet]

Number of position players compared to last season:

I like the graphics as well. It seems to make some order out of things that are sure to change.

 

[kerouac9]

2010 1 Dan Williams (Starter)
2 Daryl Washington (Starter)
3 Andre Roberts (Starter)
4 O'Brien Schofield (Starter) Not a starter
5 John Skelton (Back-up)
6 Jorrick Calvin (Traded)
7 Jim Dray (Back-up)
2009 1 Chris Wells (Starter)
2 Cody Brown (Bust)
3 Rashad Johnson (Back-up)
4 Greg Toler (Would be Starter)
5 Herman Johnson (No longer with team)
6 Will Davis (Cut today)
7 LaRod Stephens-Howling (3rd down back)
8 Trevor Canfield (No longer with team)
2008 1 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Traded for our possible QBOF)
2 Calais Campbell (Starter)
3 Early Doucet (Starter) Clearly not a starter, in that he's not starting
4 Kenny Iwebema (Cut today)
5 Timothy Hightower (Traded)
6 Christopher Harrington (No longer with team)
7 Brandon Keith (Starter)
2007 1 Levi Brown (Starter)
2 Alan Branch (No longer with team)
3 Buster Davis (Bust)
4 Steve Breaston (Lost in free agency)
5 Ben Patrick (No longer with team)



I personally don't feel terrible about this. Obviously there are a few questionable picks, but there are also some greats ones. And I count 6 starters from the 07-09 drafts, Wells, Toler (hurt), Campbell, Doucet, Keith and Brown. Obviously considering Doucet our #3 wide out a starter. As well as DRC being traded away this yr for our possible QBOF.

Personally I feel like our last 2 drafts should make us even more optimistic as I feel we have continued to improve come draft day and made some solid picks not just on need but value.

Go Cards!

All right, so other than the two players that you mis-stated were starters, you have the exact same conclusions that I've come to. Now go and tell me how the other teams around the NFL did.

I'll get you started:

Packers:
2007 Draft
1 1 16 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee Questionable pick at the time--bust
2 2 31 63 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska Disappointment and free agent departure
3 3 14 78 James Jones WR San Jose State Signed extension this offseason
4 3 26 89 Aaron Rouse DB Virginia Tech Currently an Arizona Cardinal
5 4 20 119 Allen Barbre T Missouri Southern Off team
6 5 20 157 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech Cut in training camp (apparently)
7 6 17 191 Korey Hall LB Boise State Off team
8 6 18 192 Desmond Bishop LB California Starting ILB
9 6 19 193 Mason Crosby K Colorado Starting Kicker
10 7 18 228 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida Out of NFL
11 7 33 243 Clark Harris TE Rutgers Cut in training camp

2008 Draft
1 2 5 36 Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State Slot WR
2 2 25 56 Brian Brohm QB Louisville Bust
3 2 29 60 Patrick Lee DB Auburn nickel corner
4 3 28 91 Jermichael Finley TE Texas All Pro Caliber
5 4 3 102 Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest Out of NFL
6 4 36 135 Josh Sitton T Central Florida Started last two seasons
7 5 15 150 Breno Giacomini T Louisville Cut, currently with Seahawks
8 7 2 209 Matt Flynn QB Louisiana State 2nd string QB
9 7 10 217 Brett Swain WR San Diego State Still on roster

2009 Draft
1 1 9 9 B.J. Raji DT Boston College Future All Pro
2 1 26 26 Clay Matthews LB USC Current All Pro
3 4 9 109 T.J. Lang T Eastern Michigan Backup LG
4 5 9 145 Quinn Johnson RB Louisiana State Backup and Special Teams player
5 5 26 162 Jamon Meredith T South Carolina Cut in training camp
6 6 9 182 Jarius Wynn DE Georgia Sub package DL
7 6 14 187 Brandon Underwood DB Cincinnati Special Teams player
8 7 9 218 Brad Jones LB Colorado Backup OLB; 4 sacks in 2009

Atlanta Falcons:
2007
1 1 8 8 Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas Bust--traded to Colts
2 2 7 39 Justin Blalock T Texas Starting LG
3 2 9 41 Chris Houston DB Arkansas Started 37 games, signed by Detroit Lions
4 3 11 75 Laurent Robinson WR Illinois State Started 11 games for St. Louis Rams in 2010, signed by Chargers
5 4 10 109 Stephen Nicholas LB South Floridas Backup WLB
6 4 34 133 Martrez Milner TE Georgia Out of NFL
7 6 11 185 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 3rd team DT
8 6 20 194 David Irons DB Auburn Out of NFL
9 6 24 198 Doug Datish C Ohio State Out of NFL
10 6 29 203 Daren Stone DB Maine Out of NFL
11 7 34 244 Jason Snelling RB Virginia Backup RB

2008
1 1 3 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College Future Pro Bowler
2 1 21 21 Sam Baker T USC Starting LT
3 2 6 37 Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma Starting MLB
4 3 5 68 Chevis Jackson DB Louisiana State Cut in 2009, played on 3 teams in 2010
5 3 21 84 Harry Douglas WR Louisville Slot WR
6 3 35 98 Thomas DeCoud DB California Starting FS
7 5 3 138 Robert James LB Arizona State 3rd Team SLB
8 5 19 154 Kroy Biermann LB Montana Started 14 games at DE in 2010
9 6 6 172 Thomas Brown RB Georgia Out of NFL
10 7 5 212 Wilrey Fontenot DB Arizona Out of NFL
11 7 25 232 Keith Zinger TE Louisiana State Started 2 games in 2009, currently with New York Jets

2009
1 1 24 24 Peria Jerry DT Mississippi 2nd team DT
2 2 23 55 William Moore DB Missouri Starting SS
3 3 26 90 Christopher Owens DB San Jose State 4th CB
4 4 25 125 Lawrence Sidbury Jr. DE Richmond 2nd team DE behind John Abraham
5 5 2 138 William Middleton DB Furman Cut in training camp; special teams player for Jacksonville
6 5 20 156 Garrett Reynolds T North Carolina Starting RB
7 6 3 176 Spencer Adkins LB Miami (FL) Special teams player and backup linebacker
8 7 1 210 Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech Backup DT/Special teams player

Tampa Bay Bucs:
2007
1 1 4 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson RIP.
2 2 3 35 Arron Sears T Tennessee Beat up a cop. Oops.
3 2 32 64 Sabby Piscitelli DB Oregon State Worst Safety in the NFL last year. Departed in free agency
4 3 4 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico Starting SLB
5 4 7 106 Tanard Jackson DB Syracuse Suspended indefinitely for breaking the league's substance abuse policy
6 5 4 141 Greg Peterson DE North Carolina Central Playing for the UFL
7 6 8 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State Second-string WLB)
8 7 4 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State Pending free agent
9 7 35 245 Marcus Hamilton DB Virginia Waiting for the phone to ring after appearing in 2 career games
10 7 36 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama 4.3 YPC average with the St. Louis Rams spelling Steven Jackson

2008
1 1 20 20 Aqib Talib DB Kansas Solid starter in Tampa-2 defense
2 2 27 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State Out of NFL, apparently
3 3 20 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers 2nd team Center
4 4 16 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland Out of NFL
5 5 25 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego 2nd Team QB
6 6 9 175 Geno Hayes LB Florida State Starting MLB
7 7 31 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina Out of NFL

2009
1 1 17 17 Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Poised for breakout season making him a Top 12 QB in the NFL
2 3 17 81 Roy Miller DT Texas Started 16 games in 2010 as Nose Tackle
3 4 17 117 Kyle Moore DE USC 3rd team DE
4 5 19 155 Xavier Fulton T Illinois Failed to make roster
5 7 8 217 E.J. Biggers DB Western Michigan 4th CB
6 7 24 233 Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon State 4th WR

 

[THESMEL]

we had 6

it was 07 or 08 that Whiz kept 6 TE's. Like i said i gotta beleive they they feel they can upgrade the weak positions, We need 2nd string OLBs that have developmental potential.

Porter has spot duty in the tank, Haggins is past his prime on the decline, If we find DE conversions FA's we need to snag them, Will Davis, Obrien,
I'm still watching for prospects.

Cut 2 TE's for a CB and SS hopefully???? Or another RB? Who the hell has 5 TE's on 1 roster

 

[Duckjake]

nice graphic, not too different from last year. I can see spach leaving for A RB and an LB moving for a CB

Of the 11 DBs from last year four are gone and three are injured. And that graphic is wrong it should say 0 under QBs for 2010.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Memo to self: The first game of the 2011 season is Sunday, September 11, NOT Sunday the fourth.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

My initial reaction is this is just plain foolishness, Whiz style.

4 OLBers---not a bona fide pass rusher among them.

4 CBs---one coming off an injury

4 Ss---one trying to play with a torn bicep

10 healthy OLBers, CBs and Ss...and

11 TEs and WRs combined.

Way to take care of your new DC, Whiz. Way to go.

No wonder he can't get into the reasons.

This is why we need an assertive GM who understands how to build a roster.

There had better be 4-5 additions, 4 of which are defensive players---or this is going to take the cake.

Ken Whisenhunt made it clear, before even taking a question, what Friday’s cuts down to the required 53-man roster for the regular season meant.

“The one thing I’ll say is that it’s written in pencil for right now,” Whisenhunt said. “This will not be the 53-man roster that we have to play Carolina next week."

“Obviously there is still maneuvering to be done yet.”

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Ken Whisenhunt made it clear, before even taking a question, what Friday’s cuts down to the required 53-man roster for the regular season meant.

“The one thing I’ll say is that it’s written in pencil for right now,” Whisenhunt said. “This will not be the 53-man roster that we have to play Carolina next week."

“Obviously there is still maneuvering to be done yet.”

I hope that actually means we'll pursue good quality players...I'm cautiously optimistic, but still have lingering doubts that we won't go after the BPA.

 

[Buckybird]

And who the heck is Ronald Talley?

He's the stepbrother of ball boy Bo Wacker

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I hope that actually means we'll pursue good quality players...I'm cautiously optimistic, but still have lingering doubts that we won't go after the BPA.

Why wouldn't they pursue good quality players?

May not get them, but that's certainly what they'll attempt to do.

It will be BPA at position of need.

 

[Buckybird]

Schofield, acho, porter, and Haggans?

please read previous post I made

 

[Duckjake]

He's the stepbrother of ball boy Bo Wacker

Bo Wacker. Wasn't he in all those Bandit movies with Burt Reynolds?

 

[AzStevenCal]

He's the stepbrother of ball boy Bo Wacker

4/5. I chuckled.

Steve

 

[BleedRed]

All right, so other than the two players that you mis-stated were starters, you have the exact same conclusions that I've come to. Now go and tell me how the other teams around the NFL did.

I'll get you started:

Packers:
2007 Draft
1 1 16 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee Questionable pick at the time--bust
2 2 31 63 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska Disappointment and free agent departure
3 3 14 78 James Jones WR San Jose State Signed extension this offseason
4 3 26 89 Aaron Rouse DB Virginia Tech Currently an Arizona Cardinal
5 4 20 119 Allen Barbre T Missouri Southern Off team
6 5 20 157 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech Cut in training camp (apparently)
7 6 17 191 Korey Hall LB Boise State Off team
8 6 18 192 Desmond Bishop LB California Starting ILB
9 6 19 193 Mason Crosby K Colorado Starting Kicker
10 7 18 228 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida Out of NFL
11 7 33 243 Clark Harris TE Rutgers Cut in training camp

2008 Draft
1 2 5 36 Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State Slot WR
2 2 25 56 Brian Brohm QB Louisville Bust
3 2 29 60 Patrick Lee DB Auburn nickel corner
4 3 28 91 Jermichael Finley TE Texas All Pro Caliber
5 4 3 102 Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest Out of NFL
6 4 36 135 Josh Sitton T Central Florida Started last two seasons
7 5 15 150 Breno Giacomini T Louisville Cut, currently with Seahawks
8 7 2 209 Matt Flynn QB Louisiana State 2nd string QB
9 7 10 217 Brett Swain WR San Diego State Still on roster

2009 Draft
1 1 9 9 B.J. Raji DT Boston College Future All Pro
2 1 26 26 Clay Matthews LB USC Current All Pro
3 4 9 109 T.J. Lang T Eastern Michigan Backup LG
4 5 9 145 Quinn Johnson RB Louisiana State Backup and Special Teams player
5 5 26 162 Jamon Meredith T South Carolina Cut in training camp
6 6 9 182 Jarius Wynn DE Georgia Sub package DL
7 6 14 187 Brandon Underwood DB Cincinnati Special Teams player
8 7 9 218 Brad Jones LB Colorado Backup OLB; 4 sacks in 2009

Atlanta Falcons:
2007
1 1 8 8 Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas Bust--traded to Colts
2 2 7 39 Justin Blalock T Texas Starting LG
3 2 9 41 Chris Houston DB Arkansas Started 37 games, signed by Detroit Lions
4 3 11 75 Laurent Robinson WR Illinois State Started 11 games for St. Louis Rams in 2010, signed by Chargers
5 4 10 109 Stephen Nicholas LB South Floridas Backup WLB
6 4 34 133 Martrez Milner TE Georgia Out of NFL
7 6 11 185 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 3rd team DT
8 6 20 194 David Irons DB Auburn Out of NFL
9 6 24 198 Doug Datish C Ohio State Out of NFL
10 6 29 203 Daren Stone DB Maine Out of NFL
11 7 34 244 Jason Snelling RB Virginia Backup RB

2008
1 1 3 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College Future Pro Bowler
2 1 21 21 Sam Baker T USC Starting LT
3 2 6 37 Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma Starting MLB
4 3 5 68 Chevis Jackson DB Louisiana State Cut in 2009, played on 3 teams in 2010
5 3 21 84 Harry Douglas WR Louisville Slot WR
6 3 35 98 Thomas DeCoud DB California Starting FS
7 5 3 138 Robert James LB Arizona State 3rd Team SLB
8 5 19 154 Kroy Biermann LB Montana Started 14 games at DE in 2010
9 6 6 172 Thomas Brown RB Georgia Out of NFL
10 7 5 212 Wilrey Fontenot DB Arizona Out of NFL
11 7 25 232 Keith Zinger TE Louisiana State Started 2 games in 2009, currently with New York Jets

2009
1 1 24 24 Peria Jerry DT Mississippi 2nd team DT
2 2 23 55 William Moore DB Missouri Starting SS
3 3 26 90 Christopher Owens DB San Jose State 4th CB
4 4 25 125 Lawrence Sidbury Jr. DE Richmond 2nd team DE behind John Abraham
5 5 2 138 William Middleton DB Furman Cut in training camp; special teams player for Jacksonville
6 5 20 156 Garrett Reynolds T North Carolina Starting RB
7 6 3 176 Spencer Adkins LB Miami (FL) Special teams player and backup linebacker
8 7 1 210 Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech Backup DT/Special teams player

Tampa Bay Bucs:
2007
1 1 4 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson RIP.
2 2 3 35 Arron Sears T Tennessee Beat up a cop. Oops.
3 2 32 64 Sabby Piscitelli DB Oregon State Worst Safety in the NFL last year. Departed in free agency
4 3 4 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico Starting SLB
5 4 7 106 Tanard Jackson DB Syracuse Suspended indefinitely for breaking the league's substance abuse policy
6 5 4 141 Greg Peterson DE North Carolina Central Playing for the UFL
7 6 8 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State Second-string WLB)
8 7 4 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State Pending free agent
9 7 35 245 Marcus Hamilton DB Virginia Waiting for the phone to ring after appearing in 2 career games
10 7 36 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama 4.3 YPC average with the St. Louis Rams spelling Steven Jackson

2008
1 1 20 20 Aqib Talib DB Kansas Solid starter in Tampa-2 defense
2 2 27 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State Out of NFL, apparently
3 3 20 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers 2nd team Center
4 4 16 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland Out of NFL
5 5 25 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego 2nd Team QB
6 6 9 175 Geno Hayes LB Florida State Starting MLB
7 7 31 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina Out of NFL

2009
1 1 17 17 Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Poised for breakout season making him a Top 12 QB in the NFL
2 3 17 81 Roy Miller DT Texas Started 16 games in 2010 as Nose Tackle
3 4 17 117 Kyle Moore DE USC 3rd team DE
4 5 19 155 Xavier Fulton T Illinois Failed to make roster
5 7 8 217 E.J. Biggers DB Western Michigan 4th CB
6 7 24 233 Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon State 4th WR

I see 3 of the best teams in the league there so what's you're point. Comparing us to 3 of the best makes no sense. I just said I felt like we were middle of the pack and improving. And by the way LHS is #1 on the depth chart @ KR so I guess he could be considered a starter as well. And Doucet and Schofield are two players I think will be starters for week 1. Have the starters been named yet? Didn't think so.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Why wouldn't they pursue good quality players?

May not get them, but that's certainly what they'll attempt to do.

It will be BPA at position of need.

Thats a good question, I've been wanting to ask Graves that for a while. He seems to prefer the 35 year old washed up players lol

 

[THESMEL]

Thats just wrong

Didn't have an OC or DC either!

skelton was a QB, Maybe?

Man this is where Horton Must make his Mark, His career will depend on who He keeps, gets and developes. I feel for the Rookie DC, Hope He has some strong connections and supports.

The rst of this staff knows about about defense as Chris Miller knows about coaching QB's.

Of the 11 DBs from last year four are gone and three are injured. And that graphic is wrong it should say 0 under QBs for 2010.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The rest of this staff knows about defense as Chris Miller knows about coaching QB's.

Little to none?

 

[Lagerfilled]

Fellas chill! We're not going to find a starting OLB that can assimilate into Horton's defense by Wk1 unless their name is Harrison or Woodley and none of those types will be cut. It has to be a trade & who do we give up? You might as well get comfortable with Porter and Haggins until next year. Just hope that Schohawk & Achoman can pass them on the depth chart once they pick up the D.

 

[Buckybird]

You might as well get comfortable with Porter and Haggins until next year. Just hope that Schohawk & Achoman can pass them on the depth chart once they pick up the D.

And thats exactly the point...we keep trying to add lower round OLB talent (outside of Brown) or neglecting the position. I keep hearing the same crap every year, every offseason & I'm still seeing very little production. The key IMO to making the 3-4 work is the OLB's, so either draft those guys or go back to a 4-3!!!