arthurracoon
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finally caught up
great stuff
never expected earth to be a barren wasteland
great stuff
never expected earth to be a barren wasteland
Battlestar Galactica (remake)
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It can't be earth. This is not the 1970's anymore. The whole Cold War "End of the world" thing has been over done so many times. I will be so disappointed if this is earth.
If it is earth, at least they could have made it more of a modern "end of the world story". Maybe have the President of the US create a hap hazzard group of nations against the "Evil Doer" Cylons who they fight endlessly. Or maybe as Lee and the US president shake hands for the first time a Terrorist bomb goes off killing everyone and the show ends. Something completely cheesy but along those lines.
I just have a feeling that this planet is not earth but another clue of the way there.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
It's definitely earth. The whole theme of 'it has happened before and will happen again' proves it to me, IMO. Their ancestors had to flee earth, they settled on the 12 planets, earth eventually becomes a quasi-myth, and when they finally return, it has been in ruins for ages. That's what it seems to me, anyhow.
It is earth. Also, with 3rd world countries obtaining the bomb recently (India and Pakistan) and more trying (Iran), is it really that hard to believe that a nuclear disaster is out of the question in our future?
arthurracoon
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bump
starts again on friday
theyre replaying all the older episodes on friday before the season primere
starts again on friday
theyre replaying all the older episodes on friday before the season primere
Wow. So we know the 5th. Not sure if it was the best person for it to be, but I'm glad we know.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Excellent opening episode. They're not going to hold back to end this series, that's for sure.
Can someone please explain to me, that if as Cylons they don't age (see flashbacks in episode), then how the hell did Adama not know Sol wasn't a Cylon. After all the years they knew each other, how is it that the old Colonel aged or in this case didn't age???? I am confused with this.
The only thing I can think of is they age just like humans (which would explain how they look the same in the flashbacks), then when they die of old age or whatever, they regenerate or download like the other cylons into a baby body? I have no clue but just trying to make sense of this.
The only thing I can think of is they age just like humans (which would explain how they look the same in the flashbacks), then when they die of old age or whatever, they regenerate or download like the other cylons into a baby body? I have no clue but just trying to make sense of this.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
No, that one makes absolutely NO sense. That's what pissed me off so much when they made Tigh a Cylon. Reee-tarded!
arthurracoon
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good episode yesterday
Really the only thing I can think of is the 13th tribe (cylons) were different from the rest of the cylons. They must have the ability to age or something. They might be hinting towards it. For instace, Ty is going to be a daddy. It wasn't possible for the regular cylons to procreate.
So, I think they hinting towards explaining that the "other" cylons are more closer to humans. Like I said above, maybe they download just like other cylons but have the ability to age. Cylon reincarnation?
arthurracoon
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awesome episode tonight
cant wait till next week
cant wait till next week
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Love the direction they're taking, even if I hate who they made cylons.
I am SOOO behind Gaeta, even though he's going to lose. Even Lee got it right. You CANNOT forgive the cylons for what they did. I mean, you can forgive a race of people for the atrocities done by others of that race, but NO WAY do you forgive them when the ones that perpetrated those atrocities stand in front of you.
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I think the hidden 5 cylon's are clones or something similiar. I don't think they are toasters. In the original BSG the cylon specie's was a living race. The producer writers have for the most part stayed true to the original episodes (okay maybe not stayed true but definately used original material). Just a guess...
arthurracoon
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awesome show
Great episode. What they did to Gata and Zerick.....holy frack. I was actually really disappointed to see Gata go out like that. Especially, after what they did to Dee's characer. Zerick deserved it.
Man, when EJO said earlier this year that the final espiodes were going to be very hard on the characters he was not kidding.
Did I say holy frack yet?
Man, when EJO said earlier this year that the final espiodes were going to be very hard on the characters he was not kidding.
Did I say holy frack yet?
arthurracoon
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Its funny - they started out in one of the early episodes in season 1 introducing zarek as a most seeing him as a terrorist. Over the seasons he became more and more respectable as someone who fought for the interests of the people. Well, as it turned out, he was nothing more than a terrorist.
Exactly. A wolf in sheeps clothing. The funny thing is that you knew at some point he would cross the line. We just didn't know how. When he ordered the quorum to be eliminated I was like HOLY CRAP. That is about as extreme as you can get crossing the line.
Even Gata knew it. I just wish they had given Gata a better send off then looking at Zarek and basically nodding to him basically saying "we tried".
See, I was wondering if that nod was Gaeta was more of a....yup, I end up being executed alongside a terrorist...the entire time I've always thought I'm on the right side, but it turns out...I wasn't.
Damn good season.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
I disagree. Gaeta didn't go to his death knowing he was wrong...he knew he was right, and guess what? He WAS right. NO WAY do you go that far to befriend the race that tried to exterminate you. I mean, if it was just the race and not the actual ones that did it, okay, you have to forgive them. No, these are the ACTUAL BEINGS that orchestrated the end of your civilization. You're sorry? Good, that's great, and I hope God forgives you...'cause you'll be standing in front of him in about ten seconds! lol
Obviously, Gaeta got in with the wrong guy and it went awry. The killings and unwarranted violence went against everything Gaeta stood for. That's why he knew he had to die. He realized that he duped himself, through his own actions, into ending up just like Zarek. Man, they did a good job of exploiting this character's weakness and turning him into a tragic hero.
Interesting way of looking at it...I see your point and I wasn't saying he thought HE was wrong...but that he was just on the wrong side.
On New Caprica, he was with Baltar and while he thought he was helping his people, he chose a side that made him look pretty bad. But he knew he was doing the right thing.
At the end, he chose to get the help of Zarek to do this...and that's sort of what I think of the look at the end. That he dies alongside a terrorist...so once again, on the wrong SIDE....but I'm sure he believed HE was right.
Did you watch the webisodes the last few months?
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
No, didn't know there were any.
You should check them out over on Sci Fi...they explain another aspect of what Gaeta went through. Good stuff.
I guess it can be debated but I don't think he was right. The 13th tribe by all accounts were different. They are alluding to the fact they were peaceful and not war mongering. The civil war within the Cylons showed that not all Cylons agreed with each other when it came to humans. Also, throughout the show there have always been dissention with some of the Cylons in regards to humans.
I think he didn't know any other way to live just like Dee and some of the others in the fleet. The fleet only had 2 constants. The mission to Earth and the Cylons were the enemy. When the Earth hope was completely obliterated, some crew clung on blindly to the only thing they had left to hold on to and that is the Cylons were the enemy.
I look at Gaeta as more of a tragic traitor then a tragic hero. I understand why he did what he did and sympathize with his character. I also completely believed he thought he was taking the right course of action to protect the fleet. However, when you start killing your own in your fleet because they disagree (your with me or against me mentality)...there is nothing heroic about that. Gaeta wanted to leave some ships behind to die and was willing to off the old man. That was all on Gaeta.
I loved that fact that the writers could kill off a fan favorite, turn him to the side of Zareck, yet I never found myself hating him for what he did. Zareck...just had it coming.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
You have a problem in your logic, though. Aside from Tigh and the other noobs, the rest of the cylons actively participated in the destruction of human civilization and the attempted eradication of human life. ALL of them, even the ones that now feel bad about it. You don't get to try that, say 'we're sorry', and everything's hunky-dory. You NEVER get forgiven for that. Let me soften that a bit; maybe, if you are clearly contrite, you can be forgiven, but your actions should seal your fate in the end.
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