Battlestar Galactica (remake)

[Covert Rain]

You have a problem in your logic, though. Aside from Tigh and the other noobs, the rest of the cylons actively participated in the destruction of human civilization and the attempted eradication of human life. ALL of them, even the ones that now feel bad about it. You don't get to try that, say 'we're sorry', and everything's hunky-dory. You NEVER get forgiven for that. Let me soften that a bit; maybe, if you are clearly contrite, you can be forgiven, but your actions should seal your fate in the end.

Yes but your looking at this from a jaded "human" point of view. We tend to think individually where the Cylons are more of a collective. Normally the argument would be you should not blindly follow from a human point of view. However, in this case it was bread/programmed into them to act as a collective. The first time Cylons start to think for themselves it practically destroys them which is what they feared to begin with.

You don't have to forgive the Cylons for what they did. However, for the sake of the fleet you should be able to see the bigger picture. If the fleet is going to survive they have to work with them or die as well. That's where Adama is right. He sees the bigger picture. Gaeta would have led the fleet to their doom just for the principle of hating the Cylons.

 

[Stout]

Yes but your looking at this from a jaded "human" point of view. We tend to think individually where the Cylons are more of a collective. Normally the argument would be you should not blindly follow from a human point of view. However, in this case it was bread/programmed into them to act as a collective. The first time Cylons start to think for themselves it practically destroys them which is what they feared to begin with.

You don't have to forgive the Cylons for what they did. However, for the sake of the fleet you should be able to see the bigger picture. If the fleet is going to survive they have to work with them or die as well. That's where Adama is right. He sees the bigger picture. Gaeta would have led the fleet to their doom just for the principle of hating the Cylons.

See, I don't get that. They paid short lip service to the fact that the FTL upgrades would double their fuel economy, but haven't said it's essential for the fleet to survive. Plus, I don't think that the whole fuel thing is what Adama was trying to shove down the fleet's throat. He and his side want full resolution with the 'good' cylons. Remember, he had the chance to destroy the whole cylon race and didn't (which, as a character, I see as a huge flaw).

 

[Covert Rain]

See, I don't get that. They paid short lip service to the fact that the FTL upgrades would double their fuel economy, but haven't said it's essential for the fleet to survive. Plus, I don't think that the whole fuel thing is what Adama was trying to shove down the fleet's throat. He and his side want full resolution with the 'good' cylons. Remember, he had the chance to destroy the whole cylon race and didn't (which, as a character, I see as a huge flaw).

They did allude to the fact that because they have no direction any longer that finding a new planet would be like taking a stab in the dark. I think doubling your fuel efficiency is a pretty significant if that is the case.

Having said that, am I the only one that thinks that this can't be the end of the Earth thing? There has to be more to come of it. There has to be. Some connection to lead them somewhere else?

 

[arthurracoon]

new episode tonight

 

[arthurracoon]

 

[Covert Rain]

Wow...so much happened in this episode my head is spinning.

Spoiler

The "creator cylons" developed the ability to procreate. I kind of figured that. Then they build the other Cylon models but limited their ability to do so by design but gave them resurrection technology.

I am still tryin to wrap my head around that the Cylon John knew about the 13 tribe all along. He was responsible for wiping the memories of the "creator cylons" to exact his revenge. His entire existence has been about revenge on the humans and torturing the "creator Cylons".

Also, the fact that Galactica needs Cylon technology to even survive makes it crystal that had the mutany succeeded, the fleet was doomed. They wouldn't have had the Cylon tech to repair the ship. Without Galactica the fleet would have fallen.

 

[Pariah]

I just started watching Season 1. Pretty good.

 

[arthurracoon]

I just started watching Season 1. Pretty good.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I'm going to watch the first season after I finish Millennium.

The entire series is coming out on Bluray in May I believe.

 

[Pariah]

after I finish Millennium.

I remember thinking that show was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't remember much about it except that I thought it kicked the x-files arse.

 

[arthurracoon]

another awesome episode

cant wait till the series finale this friday

(hopefully, I'll get to watch it after watching the UofA beat Utah)

 

[earthsci]

Wow. That was pretty cool.

This has happened before. This will happen again.

Spoiler

Pretty cool that Galen is going to the British Isles.

 

[arthurracoon]

awesome series

 

[LVG]

Terrific ending. Wrapped it all up. Great series, great story, great characters.

I'm happy it ended when it did - though I'll miss the show.

 

[Covert Rain]

One of the very few shows were I felt satisfied by the finale. My hat is off to Ron Moore. Not only did he reinvent the series but managed to make one of the best sci fi shows ever. Much better than the original series.

PS. Did anybody else get all "tingl"y at the very end when in the backround they were playing a new take on the old BSG theme song?

Wow...just wow.

 

[Stout]

One of the very few shows were I felt satisfied by the finale. My hat is off to Ron Moore. Not only did he reinvent the series but managed to make one of the best sci fi shows ever. Much better than the original series.

PS. Did anybody else get all "tingl"y at the very end when in the backround they were playing a new take on the old BSG theme song?

Wow...just wow.

It was a really good finale, but way too long. Once they figured out what they were doing,

Spoiler

it was unnecessary to spend 45 minutes with earth.

 

[earthsci]

It was a really good finale, but way too long. Once they figured out what they were doing,

Spoiler

it was unnecessary to spend 45 minutes with earth.

I gotta tell ya, I was kinda bummed that they didn't give it a little more attention. Still good though.

 

[Shane]

Ok I watched season 1,2 and 2.5 what is left?

 

[Covert Rain]

It was a really good finale, but way too long. Once they figured out what they were doing,

Spoiler

it was unnecessary to spend 45 minutes with earth.

I actually liked it. One of the things I was worried about is how they reconcile Earth with how we know Earth. The strength of the show has always been that it doesn't need space battles (although cool) to have a good episode.

 

[arthurracoon]

Ok I watched season 1,2 and 2.5 what is left?

Season 3, Razor, & Season 4

 

[LVG]

It was a really good finale, but way too long. Once they figured out what they were doing,

Spoiler

it was unnecessary to spend 45 minutes with earth.

I actually felt that the 45 min on new earth was well spent. It tied up a lot of loose ends, ended a lot of stories, and tied it into today's world. Time well worth spending just to complete the story. The only thing left undone (which was probably by design) was Starbuck's whole story, which may become a miniseries or something like that (speculation on my part).

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I actually felt that the 45 min on new earth was well spent. It tied up a lot of loose ends, ended a lot of stories, and tied it into today's world. Time well worth spending just to complete the story. The only thing left undone (which was probably by design) was Starbuck's whole story, which may become a miniseries or something like that (speculation on my part).

Could also be a part of that BSG movie in the fall that deals with the fall of Caprica from the Cylons POV. Maybe she was a part of their "plan" from the beginning.

 

[D-Dogg]

We've gone through most of the first season so far, and it kicks major ass.

Starbuck is the goods, and I didn't think I'd like her near as much as I do..but she IS Frakkin' starbuck. Only this time around, having a crush on Starbuck makes a lot more sense.

The Cylon hot chick (poor man's Rachel McAdams) is pretty damn sexy.

 

[D-Dogg]

Just watched the final episode of the series.

Holy frak, that was a good, good show. So well done, I was fully satisfied.

Bring on Caprica!!

 

[Pariah]

Yeah. Very good show. Very well done from start to finish, IMO.