BEANIE to IR. Designated to Return

[Russ Smith]

Oh yeah sure, if there's a total steal sitting there when we're on the clock, take 'em if he's BPA. The thing is with RB's is its the most commonly over-reached position in the draft besides QB. RB's just simply aren't as valuable as they were in the past; i.e. the trent richardson debate last draft.

If what you're saying is true about that Taylor guy then I would be happy to see the Cards take him in the mid to late 4th round

Yep RB's are highly overrated you can get a good RB well after the first round.

But, when you have a chance to take Adrian Peterson do NOT take Levi Brown instead.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's not just us Russ, micro fracture surgery on knees have ruined lots of football players careers.

With apologies you have cause and effect backwards. It's like saying a heart surgeon is a bad doctor because many of his patients don't live long after the surgery. Or that a bankruptcy lawyer is bad at their job because most of their clients go bankrupt.

When a guy is at a point where he needs microfracture it basically means little to no cartilage. his playing days are already numbered, he's just trying to buy a few more years.

It's not the surgery that ends their career it's the NEED to have that surgery that does.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Per Jurecki... That "little" clean-up operation he had done this past January was actually Micro-Fracture surgery performed by Dr. Andrews...

MJ also stated (which I agree with), that Williams, while his return has been amazingly impressive, is still nowhere near 100%.
Gonna be interesting the rest of the way...

 

[desertdawg]

This was not the plan man, usually he'll get a big fat 150+ yard game and then get hurt the next week, we got jipped. Might as well wrap him in bubble wrap and hope he can be good for the playoffs.

 

[A fan who cares]

Per Jurecki... That "little" clean-up operation he had done this past January was actually Micro-Fracture surgery performed by Dr. Andrews...

MJ also stated (which I agree with), that Williams, while his return has been amazingly impressive, is still nowhere near 100%.
Gonna be interesting the rest of the way...

Here's to hoping Powell or Smith step up and have a break out year.

Williams and LSH: its time to go sneak through the small holes created by this o-line, and use speed around the tackles.

 

[Dayman]

Very disappointing news. All we can hope for is that he's back to full health by December, which is far from a given. Until then, show us what you got, Ryan Williams and William Powell.

 

[Gaddabout]

Stephens-Howling has groin strain, as well.

 

[football karma]

well-

absent Beanie looking great during the month of December --

RB has to be a key area of need during the offseason. It seems like a thin year to find one.

MArcus Lattimore of South Carolina is the best -- if the Cards draft around 22 -25, he could very well be the best player on the board. Seems like some decent players later in the 2nd and 3rd round as well.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

First off, when is the last time Jurecki has been right about anything?

Second, if Wells did have microfracture, which I doubt, how is anyone calling him a wuss if he tried to come back and play on it within 6 months?

 

[crisper57]

well-

absent Beanie looking great during the month of December --

RB has to be a key area of need during the offseason. It seems like a thin year to find one.

MArcus Lattimore of South Carolina is the best -- if the Cards draft around 22 -25, he could very well be the best player on the board. Seems like some decent players later in the 2nd and 3rd round as well.

Tim Hightower: 5th Round Pick that no one would have projected as a starter. It is the most dispensable position in sports. We don't need to burn a first round pick on another RB ever again.

 

[Russ Smith]

Stephens-Howling has groin strain, as well.

How did he do that he just kept falling down sunday.

 

[Russ Smith]

First off, when is the last time Jurecki has been right about anything?

Second, if Wells did have microfracture, which I doubt, how is anyone calling him a wuss if he tried to come back and play on it within 6 months?

Long time ago but the Cards did exactly that with Eric Swann. He had microfracture by the Cards surgeon. They reported it as a minor surgery and then everyone was bashing him for not being 100%. He finally had to go back and have the surgery again on the same knee, this time by Dr Steadman. Finally the Cards doctors admitted that what Steadman did was "essentially the same surgery he had a few months earlier". they simply hadn't given him enough recovery time(per Steadman) and it didn't work.

I would hope with all the positive moves this franchise has made we're not still doing stuff like that, rushing guys back and then concealing the actual surgery they had.

 

[ajcardfan]

Watch out! My 2000+ yards prediction for William Powell this season is damn near cut into stone now!

 

[Gaddabout]

How did he do that he just kept falling down sunday.

He probably tripped over his own hyphen.

 

[A fan who cares]

Watch out! My 2000+ yards prediction for William Powell this season is damn near cut into stone now!

The next Arian Foster-Chris Johnson hybrid!

 

[ajcardfan]

Long time ago but the Cards did exactly that with Eric Swann. He had microfracture by the Cards surgeon. They reported it as a minor surgery and then everyone was bashing him for not being 100%. He finally had to go back and have the surgery again on the same knee, this time by Dr Steadman. Finally the Cards doctors admitted that what Steadman did was "essentially the same surgery he had a few months earlier". they simply hadn't given him enough recovery time(per Steadman) and it didn't work.

I would hope with all the positive moves this franchise has made we're not still doing stuff like that, rushing guys back and then concealing the actual surgery they had.

The way I remember it Russ is that both Swann and Wadsworth declined surgery from the Cardinals doctor and went with Steadman instead. Much to the displeasure of the Cardinals and Skkorpion. Remember, the level of distrust among the players toward our medical staff was so high that even Aeneas Williams one time went to Steadman for a second opinion on a banged up knee rather than just take what the Cards doctor said.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Long time ago but the Cards did exactly that with Eric Swann. He had microfracture by the Cards surgeon. They reported it as a minor surgery and then everyone was bashing him for not being 100%. He finally had to go back and have the surgery again on the same knee, this time by Dr Steadman. Finally the Cards doctors admitted that what Steadman did was "essentially the same surgery he had a few months earlier". they simply hadn't given him enough recovery time(per Steadman) and it didn't work.

I would hope with all the positive moves this franchise has made we're not still doing stuff like that, rushing guys back and then concealing the actual surgery they had.

I remember that about Swann. Him and Wadsworth were about the first 2 guys I had ever heard of having that surgery. My point about Jurecki is he said Wells went to Dr. Andrews and how many athletes have gone to Andrews and it is not known by everybody? Also, I can't see doctors clearing him to play if he had microfracture. I think he has turf toe and some kind of knee issue and the Cards are letting him try and get healthy.

 

[Gaddabout]

I remember that about Swann. Him and Wadsworth were about the first 2 guys I had ever heard of having that surgery. My point about Jurecki is he said Wells went to Dr. Andrews and how many athletes have gone to Andrews and it is not known by everybody? Also, I can't see doctors clearing him to play if he had microfracture. I think he has turf toe and some kind of knee issue and the Cards are letting him try and get healthy.

I can't see doctors clearing him, either. I think typical recovery on that is 18 mos. Maybe it's better now. I know the surgery itself has improved since we first heard of it.

 

[Russ Smith]

The way I remember it Russ is that both Swann and Wadsworth declined surgery from the Cardinals doctor and went with Steadman instead. Much to the displeasure of the Cardinals and Skkorpion. Remember, the level of distrust among the players toward our medical staff was so high that even Aeneas Williams one time went to Steadman for a second opinion on a banged up knee rather than just take what the Cards doctor said.

I don't recall with Wadsworth but with Swann, Skkorp and I had a long debate on that and I actually wound up paying to get a copy of an online story that had the direct quote from the Cards doctor saying Steadman had done essentially the same procedure he(the Cards doctor) had done on Swann a few months earlier. In the same article they quoted Steadman saying that Swann should be non weight bearing for X weeks after the surgery and the first time around the Cards had him not only walking but jogging at that point.

I do recall the fear of medical staff stuff but it may have been Swann's surgery that caused all that.

it always bugged me because they threw Eric under the Bus, everyone said he was soft because nobody knew he'd had that surgery.

 

[Mulli]

I will punch anyone who saw Eric Swann play who says he was soft.


(not threatening anyone, figure of speech)

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

it always bugged me because they threw Eric under the Bus, everyone said he was soft because nobody knew he'd had that surgery.

Just like how people throw Wells under the bus when he's out there trying to help the team even when he's been hurt.

 

[Russ Smith]

I remember that about Swann. Him and Wadsworth were about the first 2 guys I had ever heard of having that surgery. My point about Jurecki is he said Wells went to Dr. Andrews and how many athletes have gone to Andrews and it is not known by everybody? Also, I can't see doctors clearing him to play if he had microfracture. I think he has turf toe and some kind of knee issue and the Cards are letting him try and get healthy.

Yeah by now I hope you're right I was just pointing out we USED to operate that way. It really bugged me at the time.

Steadman actually said Swann was the first person he knew of who'd had that surgery twice on the same knee. Lots of people have now but at the time he was the first and 300 pounds plus to boot.

A few years ago my girlfriends brother in law was looking at a neighbors house because they were moving out and selling a bunch of stuff in Elk Grove, CA. There was a big framed picture of Swann up so he asked about it and the woman said "that's my husband." Eric had been living a half block away from him for more than a year and he never knew.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

It is time we cut Wells loose and stop wasting reps on him. I am not so sure Williams isn't just like him at this point, time will tell. But we need to let a healthy RB have the reps, get into a rythem, and be our number 1 back. I hate the thought of having to use another high draft choice on a RB, but because we keep gambling on these injured college backs we are in that position of need again. When we will learn: When we make up our big board for the draft, quit putting any players on it that have had injuries in the last 2 yrs of college and any who have had any legal or drug problems. Why gamble? You have 7 picks. Can't you find 7 healthy clean college players out of the thousand out there? IF we can't, then trade our high picks for healthy established pros we you know you can count on.

 

[Jetstream Green]

We have a back now named Powell, we need to find out what he has in a real game

 

[Russ Smith]

Just like how people throw Wells under the bus when he's out there trying to help the team even when he's been hurt.

That's my point if Beanie really did have that surgery then he was done a huge injustice not having it reported that way. Everyone assumes he's malingering when he might have had a much more serious procedure than we knew.