Beanie Wells: My days in AZ are numbered

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He absolutely wasn't a productive RB. He was, however, a very productive pass-catching FB :D



Beanie needs to **** and play. I don't want to hear malcontent players whining about how they think they're done in a city, and 'auditioning' for 31 other teams. Your bolded section above is directly contradicted by his comments quoted on this thread. What he said makes him, in fact, not a good guy, but just another player causing trouble.


Stout, I agree wholeheartedly. Beans was a nice part of this team, not integral like he like to think he was. I cheered for the dude and loved him, but he's delusional if he thinks he's upper echelon and will be highly sought after as the final piece for some team out there. Once you become a malcontent, I never knew ye.
 

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I hardly think it's a stretch to take his saying "I'm trying out for 31 teams this Sunday" as being dissatisfied with the 1 team he is obviously implying that he is NOT trying out for
I don't see it as being disparaging at all. It seems as though the Cards have told him, or let him know by their actions that he is not in their plans. Plus, would it really make sense to say your auditioning for a team you have been with for 4 years?
 

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This may be the dumbest post I can remember you making :doi:.

To construe that as being a malcontent and whining, is......well, like I said, just plain dumb. Maybe if he went to PSU, you'd have different thoughts. That can be the only thing I can imagine causing you to think that way.

If that's being a malcontent, I'm going to translate to the traffic I'm about to endure today. If anybody is going a mile an hour over the speed limit, I'm calling them in as dangers to society.

Really? If any other player said they were playing to audition for 31 other teams, you'd want their scalp. It's cool with you, though, because it's Beanie.

I've been brutally honest about PSU players, though I've been wrong at times. I didn't like Jimmy Kennedy, was ambivalent about Levi Brown (and now want him cut--have for a long time)...the list goes on.

Beanie should just **** and play. There's zero reason for him to go public like that. None. Tell me, how do you justify that public comment he made?

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I hardly think it's a stretch to take his saying "I'm trying out for 31 teams this Sunday" as being dissatisfied with the 1 team he is obviously implying that he is NOT trying out for

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Really? Dude says he is playing for 31 "other" teams and he isnt a malcontent? I am not saying he cant be a good person still, but he is clearly not content with his current situation and has no qualms about letting the press know.

And I dont think Beanie has earned the right to whine. And endless string of injuries, 2.8 yards per carry, slipping everytime he tries to cut, fumbles into his own endzone without getting hit... He needs to shut up and produce.

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Stout, I agree wholeheartedly. Beans was a nice part of this team, not integral like he like to think he was. I cheered for the dude and loved him, but he's delusional if he thinks he's upper echelon and will be highly sought after as the final piece for some team out there. Once you become a malcontent, I never knew ye.

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I don't think my post was dumb in the slightest.
 

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Stout, I agree wholeheartedly. Beans was a nice part of this team, not integral like he like to think he was. I cheered for the dude and loved him, but he's delusional if he thinks he's upper echelon and will be highly sought after as the final piece for some team out there. Once you become a malcontent, I never knew ye.
Where did he say any of that? You people are reading way too much into an innocent comment.
 

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Really? Dude says he is playing for 31 "other" teams and he isnt a malcontent? I am not saying he cant be a good person still, but he is clearly not content with his current situation and has no qualms about letting the press know.

And I dont think Beanie has earned the right to whine. And endless string of injuries, 2.8 yards per carry, slipping everytime he tries to cut, fumbles into his own endzone without getting hit... He needs to shut up and produce.
Another mind reader.
 

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I'll just say I'm disappointed and leave it at that. Same with Ryan Williams
 

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Really? If any other player said they were playing to audition for 31 other teams, you'd want their scalp. It's cool with you, though, because it's Beanie.



Beanie should just **** and play. There's zero reason for him to go public like that. None. Tell me, how do you justify that public comment he made?
Wells was obvioulsy responding to a question. It's not like he called a press conference to say this. It's no different than when Adrian Wilson saying he doesn't think he'll be back when he was asked about his future. I don't see how you guys are taking a snippet from rotoworld and turning him into a whiner and malcontent when that is completely 180 degrees of what he has been for 4 years. If he bitched and complained all the time, I would agree with you. Find me ONE OTHER time he has whined or complained.
 

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How is that mind reading? Its directly from his statement "31 other teams"... his words, not mine.
So he's auditioning for a team he has been with for 4 years? I'm glad you know what he meant from a snippet in rotoworld.
 

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Wells was obvioulsy responding to a question. It's not like he called a press conference to say this. It's no different than when Adrian Wilson saying he doesn't think he'll be back when he was asked about his future. I don't see how you guys are taking a snippet from rotoworld and turning him into a whiner and malcontent when that is completely 180 degrees of what he has been for 4 years. If he bitched and complained all the time, I would agree with you. Find me ONE OTHER time he has whined or complained.

There is a way to express that you think you're going to be elsewhere next year and not come of like a jerk. Wilson came off as sad-resignation. I dont think anyone read that and thought Wilson didnt want to play here anymore, just that he expects to be cut. While Wells said he is playing for "31 other teams" and disagreed with the PT he got... after fumbling into the endzone.

I dont have sympathy. Wells needs to shut up and show something to his own team.

And again, Wilson is a pro-bowler, a guy who has been played through a torn tricep last year, a Card dating to Sun Devil Stadium, he deserves a bit more latitude from the fan base (even though his statement was far tamer than Wells). While Wells has been a disappointment, has been constently hurt and is having a horrible season... and when we last saw him was giving points to the opposition.

So... shut up and play Beanie. You wanna be somewhere else next year, great, but dont burn your bridge before you cross it. If I was Whiz (or any coach for that matter) I wouldnt play Wells a single down next week.
 

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Whizand Graves need to keep their hands off the talent- until their replacements get a fair evaluation. Their replacements would love to have the talent these idiots cut or ruined.
 

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Whizand Graves need to keep their hands off the talent- until their replacements get a fair evaluation. Their replacements would love to have the talent these idiots cut or ruined.

For goodness sake. Whiz sent Beanie home to visit his family when he was a rookie because Beanie was so homesick.

How the heck has Whiz "ruined" Beanie? We get that you don't like Whiz and you think Beanie will be sitting next to Jim Brown in that great gridiron in the sky but.... really? Beanie stumbles, can't cut, can't hold on to the ball, had injuries and has generally not set UoP on fire. Anything that happens in his career is on him. Dang, Brownies know more about responsibility.

I was prepared to be a huge Beanie fan. I think we all were. But he just didn't deliver.
 
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There is a way to express that you think you're going to be elsewhere next year and not come of like a jerk. Wilson came off as sad-resignation. I dont think anyone read that and thought Wilson didnt want to play here anymore, just that he expects to be cut. While Wells said he is playing for "31 other teams" and disagreed with the PT he got... after fumbling into the endzone.

I dont have sympathy. Wells needs to shut up and show something to his own team.

And again, Wilson is a pro-bowler, a guy who has been played through a torn tricep last year, a Card dating to Sun Devil Stadium, he deserves a bit more latitude from the fan base (even though his statement was far tamer than Wells). While Wells has been a disappointment, has been constently hurt and is having a horrible season... and when we last saw him was giving points to the opposition.

So... shut up and play Beanie. You wanna be somewhere else next year, great, but dont burn your bridge before you cross it. If I was Whiz (or any coach for that matter) I wouldnt play Wells a single down next week.

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Nailed it.
 

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destroyed him

How about benching him when He was healthy behind THT? Benching him after he went to the press because Whis' open door policy was closed? How about never emphasizing the run in practice or play - the only time he ever did -Beanie broke the franchise record on 27 carries! 7 carries a game? 10 RB carries in the Saints playoff humiliation, He treated him like a punk like Grimm, Leinart, Rolle, Dansby, Q, Antonio Smith, Deuce, Sendlein, Reggie Wells, Warner, Rod Hood, Richard Marshall, Haynes,

Yet Mike Adams and THT, Hall , DA, Kolb, Skelton, st pierre, Mike Miller, Chris Miller, Porter, Faneca, Mcfadden, PGC, RGC, and a slew of other frogs Whiz has kissed - that remain frogs- they were not princes - Whiz is just a frog kisser at this point.

Really Realy Really- I said it then and was gang tackled and kicked off the Cards main board for inciting popular board members! I don't know if they are still posting or popular - but coaches amnd players come and go- Real fans are forever- I am naturally an optimistic positive fan- but you can't sweep all the dog poop in the corner of your living room and expect it not to SMELL!

I still say get a Vice president or GM hired to make the evaluation and decisions on Whiz, staff and players- I'm ok with taking some time on it- My out of the box VP would be Condi Rice, But would like Marty Schottenheimer or even Michael Lombardi.






For goodness sake. Whiz sent Beanie home to visit his family when he was a rookie because Beanie was so homesick.

How the heck has Whiz "ruined" Beanie? We get that you don't like Whiz and you think Beanie will be sitting next to Jim Brown in that great gridiron in the sky but.... really? Beanie stumbles, can't cut, can't hold on to the ball, had injuries and has generally not set UoP on fire. Anything that happens in his career is on him. Dang, Brownies know more about responsibility.

I was prepared to be a huge Beanie fan. I think we all were. But he just didn't deliver.
 

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Wells is just another in a long line of disappointing first round draft picks. Instead of being a bell cow, he's been an injury-plagued running back, who can't seem to keep his feet under him, and whose occasional fumbles come at the worst times. Compared to the other first-string running backs in the division {Marshawn Lynch, Frank Gore and Stephen Jackson}, it's easy to see why the Cardinals running game struggles so much. Beanie can't stay healthy and even when he makes his cameo appearances, he's frequently underwhelming. He's a one-dimensional back whose contributions have been insufficient IMO.

Another bad draft pick bites the Cardinals.
 

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There is a way to express that you think you're going to be elsewhere next year and not come of like a jerk. Wilson came off as sad-resignation. I dont think anyone read that and thought Wilson didnt want to play here anymore, just that he expects to be cut. While Wells said he is playing for "31 other teams" and disagreed with the PT he got... after fumbling into the endzone.

I dont have sympathy. Wells needs to shut up and show something to his own team.

And again, Wilson is a pro-bowler, a guy who has been played through a torn tricep last year, a Card dating to Sun Devil Stadium, he deserves a bit more latitude from the fan base (even though his statement was far tamer than Wells). While Wells has been a disappointment, has been constently hurt and is having a horrible season... and when we last saw him was giving points to the opposition.

So... shut up and play Beanie. You wanna be somewhere else next year, great, but dont burn your bridge before you cross it. If I was Whiz (or any coach for that matter) I wouldnt play Wells a single down next week.
Did you read the article on Wells and the statement. Look it up. He takes full responsibility. He says he hasn't performed to the organizations standards and doesn't blame them. He also took full responsibility for the fumble last week. Like, I've been saying Wells on field performance hasn't lived up to expectations, but that doesn't make him a whiner and malcontent that you and others are trying to make him out to be.

I'm still waiting for an example of Wells ripping the organization, whining, or being a malcontent. Maybe then I'll give some validity to your thoughts on calling him one.
And don't give Wilson credit for playing hurt and not Wells. Because it's a ludicrous assessment. Wells has been out their hurt plenty of times, even morseo than Wilson. But I guess that woldn't fit your thoughts on Wells.
 
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Beanie was never the RB he was advertised to be. He cracked a 1,000 yds once and barely at that. He has been injury prone which was part of his problem in college.

You can lay blame on the sad state of the Oline and his head coaches proclivity for abandoning the run game however that said Beanie except on occasion could not produce on a consistent level.

He is at best a run of the mill RB who has never established himself as a premier RB in the NFL.
 

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Beanie was never the RB he was advertised to be. He cracked a 1,000 yds once and barely at that. He has been injury prone which was part of his problem in college.

You can lay blame on the sad state of the Oline and his head coaches proclivity for abandoning the run game however that said Beanie except on occasion could not produce on a consistent level.

He is at best a run of the mill RB who has never established himself as a premier RB in the NFL.
I don't think anybody is arguing that, but people are using that to mislabel him as a person.

Somehow, these people, that don't know Wells at all, are equating lack of having great balance and cutting ability to whining and being a malcontent.

Yet, if you're a pro bowl safety that is an infidel and cheats on his wife while sulking on the sidelines, you're a great guy, Mr. Cardinal.
 

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You don't ever say 'I'm auditioning for 31 other teams'. The minute you do that, you upset the fans, upset the team, and make yourself look bad. Simple. We're not calling him a bad person; we're just telling him to **** and play.
 

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Beanie was never the RB he was advertised to be. He cracked a 1,000 yds once and barely at that. He has been injury prone which was part of his problem in college.

You can lay blame on the sad state of the Oline and his head coaches proclivity for abandoning the run game however that said Beanie except on occasion could not produce on a consistent level.

He is at best a run of the mill RB who has never established himself as a premier RB in the NFL.

Yet, if I'm not mistaken and I very we'll could be, Wells is the only Cardinal RB since OJ Anderson with 2 seasons with over 150 carries averaging 4+ yards per carry.

Gotta love Cardinal football.
 

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I don't see it as being disparaging at all. It seems as though the Cards have told him, or let him know by their actions that he is not in their plans. Plus, would it really make sense to say your auditioning for a team you have been with for 4 years?
I think it makes perfect sense to say he's auditioning for a team he's been on for 4 years. Every player does that in a contract year. They audition for every team. He clarified that he's auditioning for every team but ours... that shows his lack of desire to be here. AW had his conference right after celebrating achieving 25/25. Crying. He's expressed his desire the be a Cardinal through his final day MANY times. Even before Fitz, and Warner, and the playoff runs.
And again, Wilson is a pro-bowler, a guy who has been played through a torn tricep last year, a Card dating to Sun Devil Stadium, he deserves a bit more latitude from the fan base (even though his statement was far tamer than Wells). While Wells has been a disappointment, has been constently hurt and is having a horrible season... and when we last saw him was giving points to the opposition.

So... shut up and play Beanie. You wanna be somewhere else next year, great, but dont burn your bridge before you cross it. If I was Whiz (or any coach for that matter) I wouldnt play Wells a single down next week.
AW tore his bicep. And it's still torn this year as well. He never had it fixed. I agree with your sentiment though. AW has been an important role in this defense and the mentality of this team for years and years. He was the ONLY player with any sort of Cardinal loyalty for quite a while. I sincerely hope the Cardinals show him that kind of loyalty in return
 

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Can we re-sign Tim Hightower and cut Beanie? Whis got rid of the wrong halfback last season. :sad:
 

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Did you read the article on Wells and the statement. Look it up. He takes full responsibility. He says he hasn't performed to the organizations standards and doesn't blame them. He also took full responsibility for the fumble last week.

Cbus, do you have a link? After reading your comment i tried to "Look it up" and the articles i found, with additional quotes from Beanie, made him sound like MORE of a whiner and malcontent than the brief quotes in the first post in this thread. E.g.:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8779054/beanie-wells-arizona-cardinals-expects-play-elsewhere-2013
Arizona Cardinals running back Beanie Wells expects to play for another team next season and will use Sunday's finale to "audition for a job somewhere else," he said Monday.

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Wells said he should have gotten a chance to make up for his fumble rather than being benched. He finished the game with four carries for 3 yards.

"I didn't agree with it at all," he said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/86394/a-few-thoughts-on-beanie-wells-thoughts
The unforced fumble Wells lost in defeat to Chicago last week played a leading role in coach Ken Whisenhunt benching Wells despite limited options at the position. A running back with greater equity built up would have gotten additional chances. Wells hasn't built up that equity.

I would like to think that somewhere Beanie DID take responsibility for his appallingly bad fumble (which has been a career-long problem for him), but aside from this insincere-sounding remark, i didn't see anything like that:

"This is a performance-based business, and I don't know if I've done things up to our organization's standards here," he said. "Maybe it's a discussion that we'll have later on, but who knows?"

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Cbus, do you have a link? After reading your comment i tried to "Look it up" and the articles i found, with additional quotes from Beanie, made him sound like MORE of a whiner and malcontent than the brief quotes in the first post in this thread. E.g.:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8779054/beanie-wells-arizona-cardinals-expects-play-elsewhere-2013


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8779054/beanie-wells-arizona-cardinals-expects-play-elsewhere-2013


I would like to think that somewhere Beanie DID take responsibility for his appallingly bad fumble (which has been a career-long problem for him), but aside from this insincere-sounding remark, i didn't see anything like that:



...dave
These are from the Cards website:

“It’s a performance-based business and I don’t know if I’ve done things up to our organization’s standards here.

On the first play of the Cardinals’ second possession, Wells had his fumble. Wells said Monday he ran into quarterback Ryan Lindley
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and tried to make a move midair but one foot went forward and then another backward, Wells explained. He landed on the ground without being hit as the ball rolled away.
“Just slipped all over the place,” Wells said. “It was bad but I still should’ve held onto the ball.”
 
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