Benewikere & Taylor

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

How did I miss that both these guys were released?!?

So we’ve released a starting QB, a starting tackle, and two cb’s that were slated as stater and nickle/starter.

And people are still arguing to keep Keim?!? Wtf?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Maybe these are all moves done by
Terry McDonough, who was given roster control for the rest of the season

#conspiracy

 

[overseascardfan]

OL & #2 CB have been the Achilles Heal for Keim. He has never solidified either in his tenure. He felt stop gaps would suffice for the #2 CB letting guys who panned out like Cromartie, Cooper & Tramon Williams leave after their prove it years. He should have solidified the position in the last couple of drafts. For example I was praying for ARZ to take Demontae Kazee last year because he was a ball hawk throughout his college career but we chose to not even take a CB last year and now he leads the NFL in INT's this year and was taken in 5th round last year by ATL. We all know about his inept talent evaluation of OL talent.

 

[Cheesebeef]

you literally couldn't fall flatter on your face if you tried last off-season. Starting QB, RT, CB#2 and #3, OC cut by Game 10 of the year and looking at your HC fired by the end of the season.

Oh... and an extreme DUI right before training camp opens.

There's having a bad off-season and then there's having the worst off-season humanly possible!

 

[DVontel]

OL & #2 CB have been the Achilles Heal for Keim. He has never solidified either in his tenure. He felt stop gaps would suffice for the #2 CB letting guys who panned out like Cromartie, Cooper & Tramon Williams leave after their prove it years. He should have solidified the position in the last couple of drafts. For example I was praying for ARZ to take Demontae Kazee last year because he was a ball hawk throughout his college career but we chose to not even take a CB last year and now he leads the NFL in INT's this year and was taken in 5th round last year by ATL. We all know about his inept talent evaluation of OL talent.

He got moved to Safety now. Great move cause he’s thriving there.

 

[gmabel830]

you literally couldn't fall flatter on your face if you tried last off-season. Starting QB, RT, CB#2 and #3, OC cut by Game 10 of the year and looking at your HC fired by the end of the season.

Oh... and an extreme DUI right before training camp opens.

There's having a bad off-season and then there's having the worst off-season humanly possible!

Holy crap, you are right. Pretty much all of the free agents brought in have been blown out out town within a little over half a season.

EDIT - at least we have Justin Pugh left. YAY!

At least the draft class looks promising, I guess.

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[juza76]

OL & #2 CB have been the Achilles Heal for Keim. He has never solidified either in his tenure. He felt stop gaps would suffice for the #2 CB letting guys who panned out like Cromartie, Cooper & Tramon Williams leave after their prove it years. He should have solidified the position in the last couple of drafts. For example I was praying for ARZ to take Demontae Kazee last year because he was a ball hawk throughout his college career but we chose to not even take a CB last year and now he leads the NFL in INT's this year and was taken in 5th round last year by ATL. We all know about his inept talent evaluation of OL talent.

They selected a cb, Campbell, a tall corner from Psu, a former team captain who has been an underachiever at training camp and couldnt make the roster
Next march we will have to think also about cb1 cause pp21 will get traded

 

[juza76]

Maybe these are all moves done by
Terry McDonough, who was given roster control for the rest of the season

#conspiracy

McDonough really?
U mean the dude who was salivating at the idea of getting Abdullah in round 2
This mess is on Keim but this man is keim's right-hand man and first personal advicer
I know sometimes it works when u put the next man up, but thats not the case
If McDonough will be the GM i dont see how we can get back a good quality football team

 

[b8rtm8nn]

McDonough really?

Nope, it was sarcasm. If McDonough became GM, I would throw rocks at the stadium in protest.

 

[Arz101]

The most amazing part of Andre Smith signing in FA to a 2 year deal is this: A person in front office watched game tape of Andre Smith and decided he was worth signing.

If you are that front office person reading this:

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[overseascardfan]

They selected a cb, Campbell, a tall corner from Psu, a former team captain who has been an underachiever at training camp and couldnt make the roster
Next march we will have to think also about cb1 cause pp21 will get traded

Forgot about Campbell. I think ARZ cleans house in order to win back the locker room to include Peterson. If they were going to trade him why not at the deadline? Doubt they would get more by waiting for the offseason.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Forgot about Campbell. I think ARZ cleans house in order to win back the locker room to include Peterson. If they were going to trade him why not at the deadline? Doubt they would get more by waiting for the offseason.

Mismanagement

 

[overseascardfan]

Mismanagement

I think the fact that there were no trades at the deadline is because Bidwill is going to fire Keim and everyone below him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Holy crap, you are right. Pretty much all of the free agents brought in have been blown out out town within a little over half a season.

EDIT - at least we have Justin Pugh left. YAY!

At least the draft class looks promising, I guess.

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oh my lord... I forgot about P-U... the oft-injured FA from one of the worst O-lines in football... that ended up injured on the worst O-line in football!

I mean, there's crapping the bed, then there's crapping, pissing and vomitting all over yourself at the same time. That's what Keim's off-season was last year.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

you literally couldn't fall flatter on your face if you tried last off-season. Starting QB, RT, CB#2 and #3, OC cut by Game 10 of the year and looking at your HC fired by the end of the season.

Oh... and an extreme DUI right before training camp opens.

There's having a bad off-season and then there's having the worst off-season humanly possible!

I believe this is all that needs to be said about the 2018 team.

 

[Veer]

The only good thing is that by the time our promising 2018 class of Rosen, Kirk, Cole, Edmonds and Cunningham hits their stride, all these miserable FA signing will be off our books, including Gresham and Pugh. It's on Keim or probably a new GM to avoid such FA busts in the future. Keim went cheap on important positions like CB and OT. Keim overpaid for an injury-prone average OG and a stupid TE who can't catch, two positions who aren't important in the big picture.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

In Keim's defense, it's pretty hard to attract any good free agents when you're heading into the season with a new coach and Sam Bradford as your QB. Money being close, all the good FA's want a chance to win. The Cards signed guys that would have jumped at any offer because they basically had little choice unless they'd way overpay and that's never been the Cards M.O.

The 2 guys I remember mentioned a lot were Cousins, Norwell and Allan Robinson. Norwell went to the Jags, a few minutes from the SB last year, and Robinson went to Chicago with a new, innovative offensive coach and a young QB in place.

Sad thing is the Cards supposedly offered Cousins more but he went where they had a chance to win.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I just looked up the free agent list for last year and there weren't many promising players out there. Nate Solder was the #1 OT available and, according to rotoworld, Pugh was #2 with Smith being 5th. That's a pretty sad group.

The OG group was better but nothing stellar. Norwell was the best followed by Weston Richburg, Josh Sitton, and Josh Kline.

WR's had Robinson, Sammy Watkins, Marquise Lee, and Paul Richardson. Other than Robinson, I think the other guys are very average and were way overpaid.

TE's, would you really have wanted to pay Jimmy Graham 3/30? Trey Burton was likely the best option but was very unproven. He received 4/32 from Chicago.

On the defensive side of the ball it was better but not much and the Cards had a top 10 defense last year(I think) and brought in a defensive minded coach so other than maybe CB(supposedly Wilks's specialty), they probably didn't feel the need to spend big on that side of the ball.

 

[az jam]

I just looked up the free agent list for last year and there weren't many promising players out there. Nate Solder was the #1 OT available and, according to rotoworld, Pugh was #2 with Smith being 5th. That's a pretty sad group.

The OG group was better but nothing stellar. Norwell was the best followed by Weston Richburg, Josh Sitton, and Josh Kline.

WR's had Robinson, Sammy Watkins, Marquise Lee, and Paul Richardson. Other than Robinson, I think the other guys are very average and were way overpaid.

TE's, would you really have wanted to pay Jimmy Graham 3/30? Trey Burton was likely the best option but was very unproven. He received 4/32 from Chicago.

On the defensive side of the ball it was better but not much and the Cards had a top 10 defense last year(I think) and brought in a defensive minded coach so other than maybe CB(supposedly Wilks's specialty), they probably didn't feel the need to spend big on that side of the ball.

Good stuff, if you look at the free agents avaialbe in 2019 its also not a very good list and lots of teams including the Cards have plenty of money to spend.

 

[BW52]

To be fair Sk did draft Rosen,mason Cole,Christian Kirk,Korey Cunningham.So he did okay on some choices.I agree he has to do much better next season.I think he gets 1 more year to right the ship and he did steal Chandler Jones from NE and he got rid of Matthieu (a positive IMHO).

 

[kerouac9]

you literally couldn't fall flatter on your face if you tried last off-season. Starting QB, RT, CB#2 and #3, OC cut by Game 10 of the year and looking at your HC fired by the end of the season.

Oh... and an extreme DUI right before training camp opens.

There's having a bad off-season and then there's having the worst off-season humanly possible!

Releasing the previous season's free agents before March is a Keim tradition unlike any other. This volume is crazy, though. It's so out of the ordinary that I wonder if there isn't something else going on. It didn't look like Jamar Taylor and Benewikere were playing that awful. Suddenly they can't even be depth?

But who knows? Taylor is currently a free agent. Maybe he's happy sitting on his guaranteed salary for the rest of the year.

I wonder if Wilks and his staff didn't have the ability to communicate what they wanted/needed to the scouting staff.

 

[Chopper0080]

One of my biggest issues is with Justin Pugh. I don't actually mind that they signed him, but why would you play him at RG when his best seasons have been at LG? I get Iupati was entrenched, but that is a guy who you forced to take a pay cut in order to stay on the roster.

IMO, this is the same type of mistake that has been made by Keim in the drafts. Why invest significant resources in players and then ask them to do something different then what made you draft them?

Lets pay a top 16 NFL LG 10 mil per year to play RG!!!

 

[kerouac9]

One of my biggest issues is with Justin Pugh. I don't actually mind that they signed him, but why would you play him at RG when his best seasons have been at LG? I get Iupati was entrenched, but that is a guy who you forced to take a pay cut in order to stay on the roster.

IMO, this is the same type of mistake that has been made by Keim in the drafts. Why invest significant resources in players and then ask them to do something different then what made you draft them?

Lets pay a top 16 NFL LG 10 mil per year to play RG!!!

Iupati was a Pro Bowl LG as few as three years ago. That’s why he was starting.

Justin Pugh got a positive PFF grade. Definitely doesn’t make much sense to keep flipping these guys around.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Iupati was a Pro Bowl LG as few as three years ago. That’s why he was starting.

Justin Pugh got a positive PFF grade. Definitely doesn’t make much sense to keep flipping these guys around.

three years is an eternity in the NFL, especially when Iupati has consistently shown the inability to stay healthy over those years.

 

[Chopper0080]

Iupati was a Pro Bowl LG as few as three years ago. That’s why he was starting.

Justin Pugh got a positive PFF grade. Definitely doesn’t make much sense to keep flipping these guys around.

I get Iupati's history, but my issue is that if you are going to invest 10 mil in a guy, play him at the spot he has shown to be his best at. Even if it is just a PFF grade and the number is semi-subjective, it still indicates better play at the LG spot vs RT.

Also, if Iupati had anything left, he wouldn't have taken the paycut and they would not have asked him to. Everyone should have known that he was not in the long-term plans while Pugh was.