Blake got cut

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by spanky1
And if this is true, is the subliminal message that we will be drafting a QB or that we will not be drafting a QB? Let the games begin!

Well, if we went into the draft with just McCown and Parsons on the roster you might as well get a huge sign that says




We Are Drafting A QB!

We could have cut Blake after the draft, better hid our draft and free agency intentions for the exact same caphit. That's why this doesn't make much sense to me. Why expose our thinking now, if we did cut Blake?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
I guess it's not the best way to project a QB, but it seems that most QBs that came out of University of Michigan did better at the NFL level than when playing college ball.... Tom Brady, Jim Harbaugh, Todd Collins, Elvis Grbac, etc....I just see Navarre devoloping into that mold....The fact that U of M seems to have an offense that generally emphasizing as running game also minimizes how much impact their QBs can make.....

I honestly think of Navarre as about the 7th or 8th QB (nearly undraftable IMO). He also looked terrible at the Senior Bowl practices, and hurt his draft status.

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
I didn't necessarily mean McMahon in particular, but any QB that is "stuck" as 2nd string, but warrants a chance to start and will never get that opportunity until he goes elsewhere....

Ah, I see what you mean, though I wouldn't touch McMahon.

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
I say we must draft either a top pass-rusher or CB at #3.....

I agree, and I've joined the Udeze bandwagon.

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
I posed these questions before.... What top QBs will be eligible for the '05 draft? What QBs will be available on the '05 FA market?

Good question, and one that I haven't looked into much.

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
I would start McCown regardless and see if he merits the role of being a #1 QB and if he fails, they'll have someone to fall back on in the interim and finally get that "franchise QB" w/in the next 1-2 years.....

Why draft a QB when they might have someone who has that potential in McCown? Does that defeat the purpose of having a #3 pick? It essentially does.....

I'm starting to agree. McCown was awesome at times, and has improved dramatically since he was drafted. Not only is he a better player, but he comes off as a more confident person as well. McCown is growing up, and I would hate to see him go to another team and become a pretty good player.

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
Well, if we went into the draft with just McCown and Parsons on the roster you might as well get a huge sign that says




We Are Drafting A QB!

We could have cut Blake after the draft, better hid our draft and free agency intentions for the exact same caphit. That's why this doesn't make much sense to me. Why expose our thinking now, if we did cut Blake?

My point exactly

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I honestly think of Navarre as about the 7th or 8th QB (nearly undraftable IMO). He also looked terrible at the Senior Bowl practices, and hurt his draft status.

I kinda agree but look at how well Michigan QB's do. I am not ssying he should be drafted any higher than 7-8th rnd, just saying he is worth a look

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
Well, if we went into the draft with just McCown and Parsons on the roster you might as well get a huge sign that says




We Are Drafting A QB!

We could have cut Blake after the draft, better hid our draft and free agency intentions for the exact same caphit. That's why this doesn't make much sense to me. Why expose our thinking now, if we did cut Blake?

The other point I'm fond of making is every year someone loses a starting QB in preseason, and a guy like Blake THEN has trade value. Cut him now, you can't do that.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
The other point I'm fond of making is every year someone loses a starting QB in preseason, and a guy like Blake THEN has trade value. Cut him now, you can't do that.

I think the statement itself is worth more than the fifth rounder...

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
I kinda agree but look at how well Michigan QB's do. I am not ssying he should be drafted any higher than 7-8th rnd, just saying he is worth a look

That doesn't mean too much to me, honestly.

Every player is different, and plays under different circumstances.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by spanky1
My point exactly

It definitely puts the widely-held theory that a CB will be taken in Round 2 in jeapordy. If Ben or Eli aren;t there at #3, and we don't go get a QB in FA, then I would suspect a guy like Losman might go to us in Rd. 2.

I don't like the cut at this time. Why not wait to see what develops? See who else gets cut...see who falls to us in the draft...see how players react to the Green "system?"

I'm not opposed to Balke being gone, I just don't understand why it's happening now. I suspect more than it holds up a sign that says "WE'RE DRAFTING A QB!," that sign says "GREEN HAS A TON OF FAITH IN MCCOWN!" A QB may still be taken very high (maybe rd 1, maybe rd 2), but maybe not...what if Eli and Ben go one and two and we can't get a solid trade offer (I can't see Denny taking Rivers or Losman at #3) and the top 4 or 5 QBs are gone in the first round? It's a risk.


...or, here's a thought that just popped into my head...what if QBs go one two and three..Russ gets his prayers answered and we have Drew Henson QBing the Cards...Maybe Denny knows something the rest of the world doesn't....

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
That doesn't mean too much to me, honestly.

Every player is different, and plays under different circumstances.

But an arguement can be made that Michigan QB's get better coaching etc. They do play a pro style offense and history tells us that apparently they are doing something right.

Its kinda like the belief that Florida WR's and Penn State RB's dont do well in the NFL. Either you believe it or you dont I guess.

 

[Ryanwb]

Thank god I didn't get a Blake jersey, I would be using it to wash my car this weekend

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Pariah

...or, here's a thought that just popped into my head...what if QBs go one two and three..Russ gets his prayers answered and we have Drew Henson QBing the Cards...Maybe Denny knows something the rest of the world doesn't....

My prayers typically involve Salma Hayek (-:

I would want Henson, but for our 2nd rounder not the 3rd pick in the draft. That's been my point about trading for him, if you have ANY interest at all, you should get him now because you may have to use a first rounder otherwise.

 

[SECTION 11]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/0204blake.html

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by Pariah
It definitely puts the widely-held theory that a CB will be taken in Round 2 in jeapordy. If Ben or Eli aren;t there at #3, and we don't go get a QB in FA, then I would suspect a guy like Losman might go to us in Rd. 2.

I don't like the cut at this time. Why not wait to see what develops? See who else gets cut...see who falls to us in the draft...see how players react to the Green "system?"

I'm not opposed to Balke being gone, I just don't understand why it's happening now. I suspect more than it holds up a sign that says "WE'RE DRAFTING A QB!," that sign says "GREEN HAS A TON OF FAITH IN MCCOWN!" A QB may still be taken very high (maybe rd 1, maybe rd 2), but maybe not...what if Eli and Ben go one and two and we can't get a solid trade offer (I can't see Denny taking Rivers or Losman at #3) and the top 4 or 5 QBs are gone in the first round? It's a risk.

Or.....we trade down with Cleveland for their #8 and their 2nd rounder....Cleveland moves up to #3 and has a shot at one either Eli or Ben (if one is still available) or they take Gallery ahead of the Giants. Cleveland could use Gallery BIG TIME .

We then might take Rivers at #33 and the CB with Cleveland's 2nd rounder which would be #38. Gotta love it when a plan comes together


...or, here's a thought that just popped into my head...what if QBs go one two and three..Russ gets his prayers answered and we have Drew Henson QBing the Cards...Maybe Denny knows something the rest of the world doesn't....

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/0204blake.html

Well that sounds pretty damn official.

Where's that "Cards trade for Drew Henson" press release ?

 

[Renz]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
My prayers typically involve Salma Hayek (-:

YES SUH!!!!

 

[BIGDADDY_REDBIRD]

THANK GOODNESS. The football GOD'S are finally hearing our prayers.... Good Riddance Blake...I was hoping we would cut he & Emmitt, 1 out of 2 ain't bad

 

[spanky1]

Somehow my last post got merged with another,,,,there are ghosts out there

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I must admit that I'm a "waffler" when it comes to whether not the Cardinals will draft the QB, but my main concern is to invest in a 5-year $35 mil contract in someone who probably wont be enabled to make an immediate impact anyways, when you already have someone who we truly don't know the full potential of when it comes to McCown...

I just want to see McCown be given the full opportunity to prove himself, especially with a highly-regarded head-coach as Denny Green and this top-notch coaching staff that he's assembled....

Give me an even more experienced Johnson and Boldin (imagine that he will only get better?), another possession WR (I would prefer acquiring one in FA than drafting one at #3), and an offensive line that will have more cohesion (and if they do acquire a top-notch G in FA, that will make them even better)..... I still contend that with an adequate (doesnt have to be a "franchise") QB, better coaching, an offensive line thats fully "gelling", a decent RB (that they have in Shipp), 3 top-flight WRs (which they already have one in Boldin, w/Johnson improving his play and that one FA WR), along w/Jones, this offense can be one of the most explosive in the NFL....

It's a minimal risk in drafting a QB in the lower rounds this year and if the '05 is deeper in the QB pool and regardless where the Cardinals finish in '05, they should be able to draft an impressive one depending on how McCown performs during a full-season with the #1 stringers.....

Plus, it's also too premature to discuss the draft until we know what the Cardinals do starting on 3/3 when FA signing period begins...If I remember, the only Cardinal's FA if any worth is Barrett and we all know he'll end up elsewhere earning more than he actually deserves.....

Finally, the Cardinals are not occupied with their own FAs (besides Barrett), which will give them even a more advantage over other teams......

Edit: Forgot to mention that I thought McCown spread the ball better than Blake ever did.....It seemed he got Bush, Poole, and Hodgins more into the mix....

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I told you last year he was a waste of money.A

 

[pinnacle]

mark asher on 910 said: we are trying to confirm...but it would not surprise me- he continued on that something happened yesterday that would cause him to believe we cut blake.

I have no idea what he is talking about....what happened yesterday?

 

[Ryanwb]

Originally posted by pinnacle
mark asher on 910 said: we are trying to confirm...but it would not surprise me- he continued on that something happened yesterday that would cause him to believe we cut blake.

I have no idea what he is talking about....what happened yesterday?

Maybe the team has reached an agreement to trade for Drew Henson for 2nd round pick

 

[AZCB34]

I am scratching my head on the timing of it. KDUS still hasn't mentioned it...which to me is strange.

I was one of the strongest Blake to AZ guys and...well...looks like that experiement went bad. After all the gushing by Green, I wonder what really happened?

 

[PDXChris]

I wonder if this means that we will draft a QB for sure now.

 

[Ryanwb]

Dude, Green is the biggest bullshitter out there. He knew Blake wasn't going to do this team any good, he isn't stupid and he isn't one of the top 10 coaches (in terms of winning %)of all time for nothing.

While he was talking up Blake over here, other there they were checking the salary cap ramifications to cut his ass

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Ryanwb
Maybe the team has reached an agreement to trade for Drew Henson for 2nd round pick

The only thing I heard was that the Cards sent McCown to the Fox Sports photo shoot thing.