Blake Griffin's dunk last night

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I respect your definition, but I don't agree.

I like slam dunks. I'm not hating on the guy. he is the best dunker in the league. but that wasn't a dunk. it was a highlight that I could never dream of making, but still not a dunk.

I don't know what else you could call it? You referred to it as a layup in your earlier post, how do you call it a layup when the ball never went up? For me, if your hand is on top of the ball when you release, it's a dunk.

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This guy says James White who? Vince Carter who? Blake Griffin who?

Surreal dunks, 0:05 and 0:32 are just insane imo, style and difficulty.



2013 draft prospect but he is not an overall top rated recruit.
 

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It isn't even close? LaMarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love have more than just an argument here.

I kind of have to agree on Love. 25/13 and a +28 EFF is ridiculous for any position. In terms of production -- even though he's on an awful team -- Love has it where Griffin doesn't yet.

A good debate would be which player would you rather have right now.
 

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I don't know what else you could call it? You referred to it as a layup in your earlier post, how do you call it a layup when the ball never went up? For me, if your hand is on top of the ball when you release, it's a dunk.

Steve
it wasn't a layup, i apologize for being sarcastic. i just like rim rockers. that's just my opinion. the guy got way up and to his credit along side lebron he might be the best highlight dunker in the NBA, but I think it would have been off the charts had he reached the rim. same thing for dwight howards dunk from the free throw line. i remember jordan grabbing the rim and jumping from farther back. I thought i've seen better dunks from griffin in the past that were less talked about, but maybe i'm just wrong.
 
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I kind of have to agree on Love. 25/13 and a +28 EFF is ridiculous for any position. In terms of production -- even though he's on an awful team -- Love has it where Griffin doesn't yet.

A good debate would be which player would you rather have right now.
griffin is like lebron james jr. he is a human highlight reel. fans love him because he is a marketing god and everyone loves dunks. when it comes down to the 4th quarter late in games a lot of those go away. then the best players rise to the occasion. its about who can get the ball in the basket with the most effeciency when players start getting tired and there are not a lot of layups or dunks. griffen nor lebron have evolved into those types of players yet, but they are all stars because they are incredible athletes that do things we've never seen before. i too would take love/dirk type player at PF over griffin and kobe/dwade over lebron.
 
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I just watched the clippers for the first time this year from start to finish in a game...against dallas obviously. this is a quiz of "name the all star PF" one guy had the typcial dunks that he gets every game. but in the 4th quarter there was one PF that closed the game when the cheap layups and dunks were off the table. One guy made shots that closed the deal and made all of his free throws to win the game for his team like he does on a nightly basis. the other guy had no impact and missed several free throws that could have made a difference for his team. one guy is an all star starter the other guy backed into the all star game. who is who?
 
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I just watched the clippers for the first time this year from start to finish in a game...against dallas obviously. this is a quiz of "name the all star PF" one guy had the typcial dunks that he gets every game. but in the 4th quarter there was one PF that closed the game when the cheap layups and dunks were off the table. One guy made shots that closed the deal and made all of his free throws to win the game for his team like he does on a nightly basis. the other guy had no impact and missed several free throws that could have made a difference for his team. one guy is an all star starter the other guy backed into the all star game. who is who?

i'm guessing the guy who made the big plays is a battle tested Vet who's been in the league for a decade and the other guy has still yet to play 2 full seasons.

crimminy folks... the guy has just started in this league.
 

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i'm guessing the guy who made the big plays is a battle tested Vet who's been in the league for a decade and the other guy has still yet to play 2 full seasons.

crimminy folks... the guy has just started in this league.

Yeah and he's also one of the best closers in the game. As for his All Star comment, Griffin absolutely deserved more consideration than Dirk this season. It's not Blake's fault that Dirk wasn't ready to play ball until the season was almost half over. IMO, even though Dirk is playing pretty well right now, he's lucky to make it this year at all.

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i'm guessing the guy who made the big plays is a battle tested Vet who's been in the league for a decade and the other guy has still yet to play 2 full seasons.

crimminy folks... the guy has just started in this league.
I guess I never looked at it that way. I've seen dirk do this on a nightly basis for years so I take it for granted some times how great he is.

as far as blake, he is in his second year or third year whatever. i give you that, but if you are a true all star how can you be that terrible of a free throw shooter and how can you not even want the ball in your hands down the stretch of a game and look completely lost like you don't belong on the court? that is my question? I don't see this in kevin love or lamarcus aldridge in the games that I just watched them play when they faced dirk. these two guys were making clutch shots for their teams.

if second year is the reason then he isn't a legit all star yet in my opinion. I know the other side of the arguement, the fans voted him in and he is a high flyer etc. he deserves it etc. I get that part so I give him credit there. being an nba all star is about popularity just as much as it is about being great. and I can't hate on griffin for being popular.
 
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Yeah and he's also one of the best closers in the game. As for his All Star comment, Griffin absolutely deserved more consideration than Dirk this season. It's not Blake's fault that Dirk wasn't ready to play ball until the season was almost half over. IMO, even though Dirk is playing pretty well right now, he's lucky to make it this year at all.

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Yeah I agree with you here. dirk is the kind of guy that can have a terrible shooting game like he did last night and even against portland in the last game, but there he is at the end sealing the deal somehow. a big part of dirk's ability to close is obviously shot making, but late in games he's able to get to the line to make easy points...most great players have to master this part of the game. and that is where griffin needs to work.


dirk himself said he didn't deserve to go to the all star game. and until maybe a week or so ago I would agree with that, but now he is looking to be returning to form and I do believe that he deserves the reserve role.

My point wasn't to say that dirk deserves to be an all star or starting over anyone else. I think there have been some years when that was the case previously, but not this year.

I do think that it is ironic that in spite of having a disappointing start he is currently better than the WC all star starting PF.


In the past 3 games dirk has played against aldridge, love, and griffin...dirk looked ok against all of them and the mavs won all games with dirk having a key hand in the mavs winning all 3. griffin is the starter. Lamarcus aldridge and kevin love are both better than griffin if you ask me and I think one of those guys should be the starter.
 
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