Boldin and Edge: No shows at 1st day of offseason workouts.

[Lomax to Green 84]

Wow what a shocker!! Adrian Wilson was gone but he had a legit excuse and the team was already aware that Larry Fitzgerald would not be in until early next week.

At least Boldin is a man of his word. He said last offseason that he would have no part of any voluntary activities and it sounds like that is the case again this offseason. This crap has to come to some resolution. Yes, its only offseason workouts, but what a bummer.

As for Edge, who gives a rats behind.

 

[PitchShifter]

That was pretty much much expected given the contractual situation. Moreso, hasn't Edge's general pattern been not to attend these in the past?

More concerning is the Branch no-show.

 

[Duckjake]

That was pretty much much expected given the contractual situation. Moreso, hasn't Edge's general pattern been not to attend these in the past?

More concerning is the Branch no-show.

Branch has been a no-show his entire NFL career.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Branch has been a no-show his entire NFL career.

Exactly, how appropriate.

 

[Zeno]

Dockett wasn't there either..whats with those Florida guys?

 

[azsouthendzone]

It has been proven that the best way to get a new deal is to hold out and talk smack in the media. These guys know exactly what they are doing

 

[Ryanwb]

Most of them train else where during the off season any way. This is really a non-issue as this is how it always has been

 

[PoolBoy]

Boldin is not a big deal IMO. He has his training center in Florida is what I heard on ESPN. Branch being a no-show is good news to me. Get his ass out of here.

 

[Goldfield]

Boldin traded for a mid 1st, 3rd, & 4th. Cards take TE Brandon Pettigrew...

 

[Ryanwb]

From AZcentral:

Working out in the off-season is "second nature" to most players, he said. "The most important thing is knowing we're all going to work and we're going to work hard. This gives you a chance to know your fellow teammate and know what to expect from them."
Not everyone attends, however, which isn't unusual in the NFL. Last year, receiver Anquan Boldin and defensive end Darnell Dockett were among the players who worked out away from the team's facility.

Making a mountain out of a mole hill here fellas. This isn't manditory and they are not bypassing because of contract issues.... they just are working out some place else

 

[seesred]

THere was 20 guys not there. Not just high profile. Thus the non manditory work outs! NOthing at all here. Now on May 1st..A little different story.

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[Arizona's Finest]

I read the 2008 class was represented well but does anyone know if DRC was there? I want to see him be driven to be great like his mentor Darrell Green.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Whatever as far as Dockett is concerned. He ca get in the back of the line and wait 2 more seasons.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I totally agree. I give the whole situation a:





1. A great number of players work out in Florida.

2. Edge has always stayed in Florida to work out, and furthermore what do you expect from a guy who wants to be released. He didn't even come back after the Superbowl.

2. Boldin. *sigh* This has been going on for three years, and I can't imagine why the shock value of everything this guy does hasn't worn off. Did anyone really expect him at voluntary workouts? Well, if you are someone who did, then you are being pretty niave about the situation. Unless there is a new contract signed between Boldin and the Cardinals he will do the absolute minimum in the offseason.

3. Dockett, see #2.

4. I think this is unjustified bashing, IMHO. Where are the names of the other 20 guys that are not there ?

5. People wanna complain? Complain about a second round pick that has done nothing for this team but milk the cash cow. At least come game time, guys like Boldin and Dockett have shown they he put in there work in the offseason, and in practice with their production on the field. Branch is just worthless, and does nothing with the team. If anyone needs to get better, work harder, and do what is needed to keep their job it is Branch. I guess he has decided that he is not a football player. Just the fat guy from Fresh Prince of Bell Air. That is the real story, not Boldin, Dockett, Edge, Fitz, or any of the player that prove they come to each game prepared.

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5. This is all media hype machine, B.S.

 

[Perfectionist]

From AZcentral:Working out in the off-season is "second nature" to most players, he said. "The most important thing is knowing we're all going to work and we're going to work hard. This gives you a chance to know your fellow teammate and know what to expect from them."

Notice this quote is from Bryant McFadden, love this new guys attitude!

 

[joeshmo]

4. I think this is unjustified bashing, IMHO. Where are the names of the other 20 guys that are not there ?

It is not unjustified at all because each player has different reasons for doing what they do. It isnt a black and white world, and you can seperate the decision process of the 20 players. Note that some of those 20 players already have permission from the coaches to not be there and the coaches understand, also note that Somers stated he doesnt know if Branch is one of those that are excused or not, but based on the past he probably doesnt and is just still a lazy bum.

Boldin and Dockett are doing it to send a message, not because they love working out so much more somewhere else, because they are on vacation still, have other obligations, or because they are lazy. They are doing it to stick it to the team. And we know they are exactly doing just that because they both said in interviews they would do just that. None of the other 18 players not there are doing that, thus it is justifiable critisism, especially for two of the so called leaders.

Just as a side note 6 of the 20 players that didnt show up are players who were tendered and havent signed their contracts yet.

 

[SuperSpck]

Rosenhaus playbook:

1) Promise player more money.
2) Have player stay away from organized activities.
3) Have player demand trade.

Does it actually work when all your highest profile clients do the exact same thing?

As most have said, this isn't even a blip on the radar of big deals, I just think it'll be amusing later on.

 

[Totally_Red]

IMO, missing the offseason conditioning program is not big deal if you're working out on your own. Missing the OTA's is a big deal, especially if you skip all of them.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

It is not unjustified at all because each player has different reasons for doing what they do. It isnt a black and white world, and you can seperate the decision process of the 20 players. Note that some of those 20 players already have permission from the coaches to not be there and the coaches understand, also note that Somers stated he doesnt know if Branch is one of those that are excused or not, but based on the past he probably doesnt and is just still a lazy bum.

Boldin and Dockett are doing it to send a message, not because they love working out so much more somewhere else, because they are on vacation still, have other obligations, or because they are lazy. They are doing it to stick it to the team. And we know they are exactly doing just that because they both said in interviews they would do just that. None of the other 18 players not there are doing that, thus it is justifiable critisism, especially for two of the so called leaders.

Just as a side note 6 of the 20 players that didnt show up are players who were tendered and havent signed their contracts yet.

Still surprise and outraged by their actions?

 

[Duckjake]

Boldin and Dockett are doing it to send a message, not because they love working out so much more somewhere else, because they are on vacation still, have other obligations, or because they are lazy. They are doing it to stick it to the team. And we know they are exactly doing just that because they both said in interviews they would do just that. None of the other 18 players not there are doing that, thus it is justifiable critisism, especially for two of the so called leaders.

After the way he played in the Super Bowl Dockett could sit in a lounge chair in Tortuga until the day before Camp starts and he wouldn't get any criticism from me.

 

[Mitch]

After the way he played in the Super Bowl Dockett could sit in a lounge chair in Tortuga until the day before Camp starts and he wouldn't get any criticism from me.

While I am inclined to agree with you...at what point is leadership important? Leadership would not include training in isolation while DD's teammates are busting it together.

People are talking up Dansby as a leader...but he does not inspire me as such. He's a fickle player, who shows up when he wants to. I wish more than anything else the Cardinals would do all they could to swap Dansby for Terrell Suggs. But...looks like that ain't gonna happen, even though it would be best for both teams if it did. Dansby would take over for the departed Bart Scott and then the Ravens would draft Michael Johnson for Suggs' spot and be even better than ever.

For the Cardinals, they need a pass rush. Plain and simple. Suggs would turn a mediocre pass rush into an all-out storm. Plus, he would love to be back home in Arizona where he would electrify the U of P crowds.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

While I am inclined to agree with you...at what point is leadership important? Leadership would not include training in isolation while DD's teammates are busting it together.

People are talking up Dansby as a leader...but he does not inspire me as such. He's a fickle player, who shows up when he wants to. I wish more than anything else the Cardinals would do all they could to swap Dansby for Terrell Suggs. But...looks like that ain't gonna happen, even though it would be best for both teams if it did. Dansby would take over for the departed Bart Scott and then the Ravens would draft Michael Johnson for Suggs' spot and be even better than ever.

For the Cardinals, they need a pass rush. Plain and simple. Suggs would turn a mediocre pass rush into an all-out storm. Plus, he would love to be back home in Arizona where he would electrify the U of P crowds.

Well, if that were true... it begs the question why the Cards tagged him; are in negotiations for a long term deal... and why any team would ever, ever contemplate a trade for him.

 

[Mitch]

Well, if that were true... it begs the question why the Cards tagged him; are in negotiations for a long term deal... and why any team would ever, ever contemplate a trade for him.

It's clear to me that the Cardinals do not know how to coach defense...this defense has been downright pathetic most of the time since Whiz arrived. Dansby is one of the reasons why...he's not being played properly. Let's get one thing straight...as a 34ILB...he's a chaser, not an attacker. This is why his side gets exploited time and time again.

What's tantalizing is...if he were coached properly and put at the right position, we would have a much better understanding of his value. He's a gifted athlete...but his role in the defense is passive aggressive...and what the Cardinals may never realize (like they never realized with Leonard Davis) is what Dansby could accomplish if he was played at a position that would require him to be an attacker (while maximizing his skills), not a chaser.

 

[Skkorpion]

Rosenhaus playbook:

1) Promise player more money.
2) Have player stay away from organized activities.
3) Have player demand trade.

Does it actually work when all your highest profile clients do the exact same thing?

As most have said, this isn't even a blip on the radar of big deals, I just think it'll be amusing later on.

Correct. Rosenhaus strategy 101. These players hired Rosenhaus with purpose and eyes wide open. It wasn't the case with Q but Rosenhaus gets a lot of the Miami and Florida St players as they come out of college.

 

[WildBB]

It's clear to me that the Cardinals do not know how to coach defense...this defense has been downright pathetic most of the time since Whiz arrived. Dansby is one of the reasons why...he's not being played properly. Let's get one thing straight...as a 34ILB...he's a chaser, not an attacker. This is why his side gets exploited time and time again.

What's tantalizing is...if he were coached properly and put at the right position, we would have a much better understanding of his value. He's a gifted athlete...but his role in the defense is passive aggressive...and what the Cardinals may never realize (like they never realized with Leonard Davis) is what Dansby could accomplish if he was played at a position that would require him to be an attacker (while maximizing his skills), not a chaser.

I agree. Dansby is much better at being more aggressive. So put him in that position more. I think that Wilson might be able to do what Dansby does in the middle better (at least on passing downs).

They could plug in a Monte Beisel type and get almost the same production on an every down basis. Not quite, but darn near close. Not much falloff.

Dansby is going to need to be used more flexibly and I think Davis has the mind set to take advantage of his skills better. Sometimes Pendy relied too heavily on Wilson at times at the LOS and we would pay the price.