Booker Upset with Front Office?

[carrrnuttt]

For what it's worth, I completely agree with this article: https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/...ns-reportedly-unhappy-with-release-tyler-ulis

The current Suns FO simply have a history of having the inability to either communicate effectively, or making a simple courtesy call.

But if the Suns truly didn’t even bother to communicate with Booker, talk to him, explain to him the need for this roster change, well that’s on the Suns. And it’s a continued bad look.

IT’S NOT HARD TO MAKE A DAMN CALL.

Booker didn’t have to like the move. He should have known it was coming, and gotten that courtesy call immediately after Tyler, which should have been immediately after Tyler’s agent.

That’s the order. Agent -> Tyler -> Devin. Five minutes. That’s all it would have taken.

That courtesy, reportedly, was all Markieff Morris wanted two years ago when the Suns dumped Marcus for cap space. Sure he wanted to keep his brother on the team. But moreso, he wanted the Suns to have called him and Marcus directly to let them know what was up.

Before that, transparent, honest communication was reportedly all Goran Dragic wanted in 2014-15 when the Suns brought in both Isaiah Thomas and Eric Bledsoe and handed them the playmaking duties for the first three months of the season. Reportedly, if the Suns had just followed through on communication, he might not have wanted a trade or to leave in free agency. Dragic didn’t dislike playing next to Bledsoe.

 

[BC867]

For what it's worth, I completely agree with this article: https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/...ns-reportedly-unhappy-with-release-tyler-ulis

The current Suns FO simply have a history of having the inability to either communicate effectively, or making a simple courtesy call.

And that falls on our inexperienced GM. Is he aiming for honorary membership in the Bryan Colangelo NBA Hall of Shame? Nah, McD's not there yet. He's working on the Incompetency wing.

Our Managing General Partners sure know how to pick them, don't they?

 

[SunsFanFirst]

I cant believe we have 9 pages discussing this.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don’t think you’re ever going to get this one. Nobody is advocating Booker making the decision to waive Ulis, or even participate in the decision making process. But you keep accusing us of saying it.

He's not accusing you of saying that in any way shape or form.

 

[Chaplin]

He's not accusing you of saying that in any way shape or form.

Yes he is bro.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t think you’re ever going to get this one. Nobody is advocating Booker making the decision to waive Ulis, or even participate in the decision making process. But you keep accusing us of saying it.

That’s not the central thrust of what I’m saying at all. But many here seem to have wanted Devin to be part of the process. Which would have been a colossal mistake. Telling Devin before Ulis would have been unprofessional. Not calling Devin afterwards to discuss it was a mistake. That’s the entirety of my position.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Suns need to let their franchise player know about such a move especially if it is his best friend.

How much effort does it take?

Booker was supposed to be a part of the Suns decision making.

Chap. Bolded to show you’re wrong.

 

[Chaplin]

Chap. Bolded to show you’re wrong.

I’m not wrong. Not sure why you’re quoting Mainstreet. My position is that Booker should not be part of the decision to cut his best friend, just that the front office should have had the courtesy to tell him when hey did it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That makes sense if it was Alec Peters or Shaq Harrison. But Ulis?

This was in direct response to a tweet about booker being involved in team decisions, NOT just communicating with him. So you yourself intimated he should be involved with Ulis decision. Go back and look at the post you quoted.

 

[Chaplin]

This was in direct response to a tweet about booker being involved in team decisions, NOT just communicating with him. So you yourself intimated he should be involved with Ulis decision. Go back and look at the post you quoted.

I was never advocating for Mainstreet.

 

[pokerface]

I’m not wrong. Not sure why you’re quoting Mainstreet. My position is that Booker should not be part of the decision to cut his best friend, just that the front office should have had the courtesy to tell him when hey did it.

And why should they tell Booker about getting rid of Ulis? So he can voice his displeasure and perhaps get into a debate?

Booker is locked in. We drafted him...we own his rights. He doesn't run the team.

 

[Chaplin]

And why should they tell Booker about getting rid of Ulis? So he can voice his displeasure and perhaps get into a debate?

Booker is locked in. We drafted him...we own his rights. He doesn't run the team.

IT DOESN’T MATTER. It’s common courtesy, period. He had PLENTY of time to be upset about the waiving itself. My guess is he isn’t upset about cutting Ulis, just upset that he wasn’t informed they were doing it. It’s his best friend for chrissakes! This is different than waiving Davon Reed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’m not wrong. Not sure why you’re quoting Mainstreet. My position is that Booker should not be part of the decision to cut his best friend, just that the front office should have had the courtesy to tell him when hey did it.

I quoted mainstream because you said “nobody” - I’m going to repeat something I stated weeks ago - words matter folks.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I was never advocating for Mainstreet.

IT DOESN’T MATTER. It’s common courtesy, period. He had PLENTY of time to be upset about the waiving itself. My guess is he isn’t upset about cutting Ulis, just upset that he wasn’t informed they were doing it. It’s his best friend for chrissakes! This is different than waiving Davon Reed.

See this is where I think you’re waaaay off. Both he and markieff said it was about not being told. I call bs. I think both were pissed to be losing their brother or friend and knew that wouldn’t play well publicly so they had to find something else. Being called by the front office before it happens or after really doesn’t change anything big picture wise. Unless you wanted the chance to talk the team outta it which would have been a disaster.

 

[pokerface]

IT DOESN’T MATTER. It’s common courtesy, period. He had PLENTY of time to be upset about the waiving itself. My guess is he isn’t upset about cutting Ulis, just upset that he wasn’t informed they were doing it. It’s his best friend for chrissakes! This is different than waiving Davon Reed.

Maybe Booker is just pumping his friend up right now. You don't know his motivations.

The suns don't need to converse about cutting a second stringer. They don't need to consult with other players over it. The team is full of "friends" ...where does something like that end? The suns have a business to run.

 

[Cheesebeef]

you guys have been doing this for ten pages...

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

you guys have been doing this for ten pages...

10 pages of I’m right!

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm still waiting to hear what Booker has to say. Did this really come completely out of left field. If so, we should have done better either before it all came down or shortly after it did. But regardless, I just don't see it as the huge deal that the chatter makes it seem to be.

 

[Mainstreet]

Let's try to get it right folks. Booker was supposed to be involved in the Suns decision making process.

It's a must read for those who doubt it.

General Manager Ryan McDonough said Thursday that Booker will have a voice in all of the organization’s major decisions going forward, including the search for a new coach, free agency and the draft.

“With his emergence and importance to not only what we’re doing in the short term but hopefully in the next decade-plus, I think it’s important to make him a partner in the process,” McDonough said.

But Booker’s influence will be more acute. McDonough said the Suns plan to build their team around Booker, so it only makes sense to get his opinion on everything from a coaching hire to free agents the team might want to sign.

“Kind of show him the blueprint and vision we have not only for the rest of this season, but for the summers of 2018, 2019, 2020, etc.,” McDonough said. “In terms of what he thinks are important characteristics for a head coach to have, what’s important to us as an organization and how we build over a number of years.”

By Scott Bordow

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...input-suns-decisions-going-forward/988705001/

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

you guys have been doing this for ten pages...

With my settings it's only 6 pages so were still good.

 

[Mainstreet]

And why should they tell Booker about getting rid of Ulis? So he can voice his displeasure and perhaps get into a debate?

Booker is locked in. We drafted him...we own his rights. He doesn't run the team.

You are improvising. Please read the contents of this link.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...input-suns-decisions-going-forward/988705001/

 

[AzStevenCal]

With my settings it's only 6 pages so were still good.

It's only 2 pages with my settings.

 

[AzStevenCal]

You are improvising. Please read the contents of this link.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...input-suns-decisions-going-forward/988705001/

Yeah but it really is difficult to view this as a major decision. Also, it's clearly financial and that is not one of the areas you'd expect them turn to Booker for. It's probably unfair to even put Devin in that position as it involves his current teammates and could easily set him apart from the gang.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah but it really is difficult to view this as a major decision. Also, it's clearly financial and that is not one of the areas you'd expect them turn to Booker for. It's probably unfair to even put Devin in that position as it involves his current teammates and could easily set him apart from the gang.

Did you read this or discard it?

“With his emergence and importance to not only what we’re doing in the short term but hopefully in the next decade-plus, I think it’s important to make him a partner in the process,” McDonough said.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...input-suns-decisions-going-forward/988705001/

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

With my settings it's only 6 pages so were still good.

I got 4 more pages of being right ahead of me! Hold on tight everyone.