Brawl in NY-Den game, 10 Ejected

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Nuggets, Knicks in wild brawl near end of game

Denver Nuggets' Carmelo Anthony (15) gestures to the New York Knicks bench as he leaves the court after a fight broke out during the second half of basketball action at Madison Square Garden in New York , Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006. All 10 players on the court at the time were tossed for their involvement in the incident that spread across the court and spilled into the crowd at Madison Square Garden. The Nuggets won the game, 123-100. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

NEW YORK (AP) -- Ten players, including NBA scoring leader Carmelo Anthony, were ejected for fighting during a wild brawl near the end of Saturday night's game between the Denver Nuggets and New York Knicks.

Punches were thrown and players flew into the crowd in the NBA's ugliest scene since Indiana Pacers players fought with Detroit fans on the court and in the stands in 2004.

With the Knicks on the verge of another embarrassing home loss and angry that Denver still had its stars on the floor, Knicks guard Mardy Collins flagrantly fouled the Nuggets' J.R. Smith to trigger the melee.

Knicks coach Isiah Thomas said he even told Anthony that he never should have been in the game at the time.

"I just said to him, 'You know, you're up 20, you're up 19 with a minute and half to go, you and (Marcus) Camby really shouldn't be in the game right now," Thomas said. "We had surrendered, those guys shouldn't even be in the game at that point in time."

This time, it happened at Madison Square Garden, right in the hometown of NBA headquarters.

"I feel bad for the league, I feel bad for the Denver Nuggets and the New York Knicks," Nuggets coach George Karl said. "Very poor display of respecting basketball and respecting the game in the best place in the world to play basketball."

Anthony appeared to throw one of the punches, and now awaits what will surely be strong punishment from a league still trying to repair its image after the melee in Auburn Hills, Mich.

"Something's going to happen, but we shall see and wait," Anthony said. "I don't really want to comment on that right now."

Anthony scored 34 points before the melee took place with 1:15 left in the Nuggets' 123-100 victory over the Knicks.

Denver led 119-100 when Collins grabbed Smith around the neck as Smith was going in for a breakaway layup. Smith got up and jawed with Collins, and New York's Nate Robinson jumped in to yell at Smith.

"They were having their way with us," Thomas said. "I think J.R. Smith had just made one dunk when he reversed and spun in the air. And I think Mardy didn't want our home crowd to see that again. So he fouled him."

Anthony rushed in and pushed Robinson in the neck, triggering the roughest moment, when Robinson and Smith went flying into the stands while fighting with each other. Anthony appeared to throw a punch at Collins, and then backed away toward the center of the court.

New York's Jared Jeffries ran from the baseline toward Anthony, but was tackled by a Denver player. The brawl stretched to the other end of the court toward the Nuggets' bench before coaches and security finally pulled Smith away and restored order.

Smith appeared to have a red mark along the left side of his cheek and was yelling as he was escorted back to the locker room.

Camby, Andre Miller, Eduardo Najera, Smith and Anthony were the Nuggets who were ejected; Channing Frye, David Lee, Collins, Robinson and Jeffries were the Knicks who were kicked out.

"Clearly this isn't how we or the NBA wants to be perceived," Thomas said. "It should have been a foul and the guy takes two free throws and maybe some words, but it shouldn't have escalated. This isn't even a rivalry."

NBA spokesman Tim Frank said the league would "review the incident in its entirety. Until then, it would not be appropriate to comment."

With each team forced to put five new players on the floor, Denver finished up the win and ended a two-game losing streak. Camby had 24 points and nine rebounds, and Miller added 12 points and 10 assists.

Anthony was in the midst of a superb second half, having scored 23 points in 23 minutes after halftime. Camby, a former Knicks center, added seven blocked shots, and the Nuggets shot a season-best 57 percent from the field.

Stephon Marbury had his best game of the season for the Knicks, scoring a season-high 31 points and adding eight assists. Eddy Curry had 19 points, Robinson scored 17, and Lee finished with 12 points and 15 rebounds.

Robinson said the Nuggets were trying to run up the score in the final minutes.

"If we're up 20 points, we're not going to play Stephon and Eddy," Robinson said. "It's like a slap in the face, saying we're going to embarrass you like that."

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Knicks coach Isiah Thomas said he even told Anthony that he never should have been in the game at the time.

"I just said to him, 'You know, you're up 20, you're up 19 with a minute and half to go, you and (Marcus) Camby really shouldn't be in the game right now," Thomas said. "We had surrendered, those guys shouldn't even be in the game at that point in time."

Robinson said the Nuggets were trying to run up the score in the final minutes.

"If we're up 20 points, we're not going to play Stephon and Eddy," Robinson said. "It's like a slap in the face, saying we're going to embarrass you like that."

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What theory is it??? :doi:
 
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It'll be interesting to see if Carmello & JR Smith will be playing when we play Denver in a couple games.
 

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Anthony should be gone for at least 10 games. What are they going to do. Jr Smith, Robinson should get multiple games as well and well as the guy who fouled for the knicks to start it off.

If jefferies didn't get stopped towards the end, it woud have been really ugly.
 

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Melo should get 10 games for running like a little girl.

That punch was uncalled for. WTF was he thinking? Don't blame Jefferies for wanting a piece of him.
 

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Melo should get 10 games for running like a little girl.

That punch was uncalled for. WTF was he thinking? Don't blame Jefferies for wanting a piece of him.

Yep. I wanted Jefferies to clock him.
 

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I'm sure Denver management didn't want to deal with this fiasco while they are rumored to be hammering out a Iverson deal.
 

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I'm sure Denver management didn't want to deal with this fiasco while they are rumored to be hammering out a Iverson deal.

Can players be traded while on suspension? Man, what if this fiasco totally quashes any deal in the works? Wow, talk about your actions having some serious impact on the team.
 

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That cheap shot by Carmelo was brutal. No wonder Jeffries took off after him like a rabid dog.

Definitely multiple game suspensions for JR Smith, Mardy Collins, Carmelo, Jared Jeffries and Nate Robinson. Not sure about Camby and Channing Frye, who appeared to try to break it all up.

Unfortunately this is going to really hurt the game this year--just more ammunition for those that don't like basketball because they think it's played by a bunch of thugs.
 

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It's time for Isiah Thomas to be removed from the league, permanently. Thuggery follows him around, and he sounds like he's making excuses for his players' behavior rather than condemning it. He destroys everything he touches, and his influence is becoming truly dangerous.
 

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Good thing for the league that Kmart wasn't playing, or things would have gotten real ugly.
 

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The people that think basketball is played by thugs think that because they see black people. There is much more thuggery in a white dominated sport called hockey.

That said, is it really a surprise that Mardy Collins, a player from Temple caused this ugly scene? That cheap foul, and it was a cheap foul was right out of John Cheney's playbook. Things got ugly because Isiah Thomas let them. He should be suspended as well.
 

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Carmelo should be done for the season. The precedent has been set with Artest. Anything less would be a crime. What a BITCH! He completely sucker punched that guy and ran like a trick getting away from her pimp! What a tool. So much for cleaning up his act!
 

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It's time for Isiah Thomas to be removed from the league, permanently. Thuggery follows him around, and he sounds like he's making excuses for his players' behavior rather than condemning it. He destroys everything he touches, and his influence is becoming truly dangerous.

Wow. While Isaiah is certainly not a great coach, but you act like he is the instigator. I think it's pretty apparent that Thomas never told Collins to clothesline JR Smith on that play.

That said, it was definitely a flagrant foul, but certainly not bad enough to condone what the Nuggets ended up doing by getting involved in the brawl. It was a flagrant foul, and that's ALL it was. You make it sound like Thomas told his players to get into a fight. The Knicks have been doing that long before Thomas was around.
 

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It would not surprise me if Thomas encouraged this type of behavior. It wouldn't be the first time.
 

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I think you're giving Isiah too much credit. What's stupid about it? He would hardly be the first coach to encourage his players to "send a message" in an embarrasing game. Hell little league coaches do that.
 

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I think you're giving Isiah too much credit. What's stupid about it? He would hardly be the first coach to encourage his players to "send a message" in an embarrasing game. Hell little league coaches do that.

At the risk of losing players for a long period of time (maybe even an entire season)? Especially if you're the coach of a bottom-feeding team in New York City? How does that make any sense?

The flagrant foul "sends a message". Tackling an opposing player and throwing a punch does not.
 

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What a bunch of ninnies. If you're going to punch (er... in Carmelo's case, slap) somebody, be man enough to stand toe to toe with them rather than backpedaling down the entire court.
 

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At the risk of losing players for a long period of time (maybe even an entire season)?

In defense of the previous theory, though not in agreement, if the issue did not escalate, Isiah would have only lost a relative nobody in Mardy Collins.
 

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I think maybe we're talking about different things. I am talking about the foul. And no, a flagarant foul when you're getting ass handed to you does not send a message.
 

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Isiah's getting fired. The only mystery left is the date it will happen.

This is the exclamation point on a tenure in NY that has been an embarrassment for him and the entire city.
 

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I think maybe we're talking about different things. I am talking about the foul. And no, a flagarant foul when you're getting ass handed to you does not send a message.

Then what do you want? Mardy Collins to pull out a glock and put a cap in JR Smith? Collins fouled him to prevent the embarassment of a showboat dunk. His foul was hard, and Smith confronted him about it, leading to the fight. Where in that exchange is Isaiah encouraging? There's no denying that Isaiah is a worthless coach and was awful to try to pawn off the whole thing on the Nuggets, but to insinuate that he actually encourages brawling is laughable.
 

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