Looks like Jesse re aiming the gun at the last moment of the last scene,before pulling the trigger, leaves the big question.
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Gale is dead. Here is a quote from Alan Sepinwall in his breakdown of the episode:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/breaking-bad-full-measure-the-return-of-heisenberg-s-uncertainty-principle
Now onto the actual episode. What a great wrap up to the best season of tv that I can remember. Walt finally realizing he is a bad guy and can't come back from it is the best thing that happened to him. He can finally start thinking clearly which allows him to think on the level of Gus.
I know I have mentioned it in nearly every episode he appears but I absolutely love Mike. That scene where he takes out the cartel's hit men was so great. His deadpan delivery really sells everything he does. I do like how big of a softy he is around his grand-daughter. I believe we saw her either early this year or last when he was watching her at the park.
Since the show was finally picked up for a fourth season I guess we can start to speculate on what will happen. I mentioned it earlier when Jesse stood up to Gus that was the first crack in his armor, now with Walt finally seeing things clearly it seems to me that Gus will ultimately be taken down. There are too many issues even for him.
This is going to be a LONG 9 months or so until this show comes back.
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i thought that at first also, but upon rewatching it, the camera is moving to give the audience the point blank, dead center POV of the soon to be dead Gale.
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That's definitely how I saw it.
Damn I love this show, although AMC's weird 2-hour Breaking Bad got me thinking it was two hours, not a Rubicon sneak at the end
What I'm wondering though...at first I thought there was finally some loyalty between Walt and Jesse...but did Walt still do this because even if he gave up Jesse, he'd still be killed?
Either way...what a fantastic ending to a brilliant, brilliant season...such a tense season too, excitement...man.
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That's definitely how I saw it.
Damn I love this show, although AMC's weird 2-hour Breaking Bad got me thinking it was two hours, not a Rubicon sneak at the end
What I'm wondering though...at first I thought there was finally some loyalty between Walt and Jesse...but did Walt still do this because even if he gave up Jesse, he'd still be killed?
Either way...what a fantastic ending to a brilliant, brilliant season...such a tense season too, excitement...man.
I'm still holding out hope that Walt truly cares for Jesse and will do whatever he can to help Jesse get his life in order. That said it wouldn't surprise me if he only had Jesse kill Gale so he could stay alive. We have seen him be incredibly selfish.
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I wonder if Hank is gonna get back on his feet and be Walt's version of Mike? By now he has got to be very bitter against the "system" that took his gun away and left him to defend himself. Plus Mike was an ex-cop and Hank has a few kills under his belt. Be interesting to see those two square off.
Just daydreaming a bit.
Just daydreaming a bit.
Aha. I like it. I could see Hank whacking Gus.
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Hank despises that world. No way it happens. It would fun to see that, but it would not provide any redemption for him.
He may be pissed at the DEA and his situation, but none of this, not his panic attack, not his shooting happens with Heisenberg out of the picture. Before him Hank was the cream of the crop, cocky a-hole who enjoyed what he did.
He may be pissed at the DEA and his situation, but none of this, not his panic attack, not his shooting happens with Heisenberg out of the picture. Before him Hank was the cream of the crop, cocky a-hole who enjoyed what he did.
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Bingo. I don't think he can do what Mike does. We have seen that Hank no longer seems that he can kill anyone any more. Every time he had to get physical with someone after his Juarez incident he suffered his panic attacks.
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Ha! The show makes you think. That is a good thing. It is gonna be a long year waiting to see what happens.
Seeing that clip were Walt was working for the Labs and they were looking for their first home. Walt wanted the best then. For some reason I think his intentions are not to just be Gus's cooker. Maybe he won't settle for just being the cooker??? That is if he can keep himself alive. Man this is a great show.
Seeing that clip were Walt was working for the Labs and they were looking for their first home. Walt wanted the best then. For some reason I think his intentions are not to just be Gus's cooker. Maybe he won't settle for just being the cooker??? That is if he can keep himself alive. Man this is a great show.
Okay, I just wanted to come on and say I was seriously happy Aaron Paul won an Emmy tonight for this past season...he was fantastic and an integral part of the show, he deserves a little love.
Cranston and him winning both actor awards...pretty awesome.
Cranston and him winning both actor awards...pretty awesome.
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Totally agree. Wish they could have gotten the best show win also, but Mad Men is more than deserving. It sucks they are taking such a long break til we get new episodes. We are about a year away from the show coming back.
I finally got through all three seasons of the show. Some thoughts:
- Hank is the only one who has kept a clean slate (compared to everyone else on the show). He even maintained his honor by telling the truth when he could have easily lied and saved his butt. Somehow, at the end of this series, I think he's the one that has to deliver justice for everyone, but I suspect that justice will be filtered through the prism of pragmatic relativism, not some over-arching truth.
- Somehow I find Skyler the character in most need of redemption. I really disliked her at first. Now I absolutely hate her. She holds contempt for Hank but not Ted? What a hypocrite. Even as I thought she was coming around, she still showed how much of a royal bitch she is. so full of judgment, no interest in listening to her husband of who knows how many years. When the show first started I thought the sister was supposed to be this character, but Skyler skyrocketed to the top as the character I kind of wish would just get knocked off or undergo some kind of quick and serious redemption. I'm not really finding any value in her now. She's just an agitant. I've been in her exact position, and I found her total lack of patience or even an ounce of intuition and compassion to show a very rotten character flaw.
- The scene where Jane dies. I wish someone had warned me about that. That hit way too close to home. Not a similar situation, but ... let's just say the FX guys definitely did their homework for drug overdose. That put me in an emotional tailspin for a couple of days. Couldn't watch the show for awhile.
- Overall, the show is everything I could ask for in television. It's powerful, it's compelling, it's honest. The characters are vivid and believable. But I can't say the show is satisfying. I'm on this journey and, after three seasons, I'm not sure it's a catharsis I want to experience. The moral relativism, constant justification ... it puts me in a position of rooting for people to accomplish things I just do not agree with. My commitment to the show is in jeopardy because of it. Maybe I've finally found a show that's just too dark for me.
- Hank is the only one who has kept a clean slate (compared to everyone else on the show). He even maintained his honor by telling the truth when he could have easily lied and saved his butt. Somehow, at the end of this series, I think he's the one that has to deliver justice for everyone, but I suspect that justice will be filtered through the prism of pragmatic relativism, not some over-arching truth.
- Somehow I find Skyler the character in most need of redemption. I really disliked her at first. Now I absolutely hate her. She holds contempt for Hank but not Ted? What a hypocrite. Even as I thought she was coming around, she still showed how much of a royal bitch she is. so full of judgment, no interest in listening to her husband of who knows how many years. When the show first started I thought the sister was supposed to be this character, but Skyler skyrocketed to the top as the character I kind of wish would just get knocked off or undergo some kind of quick and serious redemption. I'm not really finding any value in her now. She's just an agitant. I've been in her exact position, and I found her total lack of patience or even an ounce of intuition and compassion to show a very rotten character flaw.
- The scene where Jane dies. I wish someone had warned me about that. That hit way too close to home. Not a similar situation, but ... let's just say the FX guys definitely did their homework for drug overdose. That put me in an emotional tailspin for a couple of days. Couldn't watch the show for awhile.
- Overall, the show is everything I could ask for in television. It's powerful, it's compelling, it's honest. The characters are vivid and believable. But I can't say the show is satisfying. I'm on this journey and, after three seasons, I'm not sure it's a catharsis I want to experience. The moral relativism, constant justification ... it puts me in a position of rooting for people to accomplish things I just do not agree with. My commitment to the show is in jeopardy because of it. Maybe I've finally found a show that's just too dark for me.
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Anybody know when season 3 will make it to DVD?
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This is the thing. I watched the first season and got half way through the second in a two week span and I was getting depressed. The show is well done but way too depressing for me.
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Yeah, I felt the same way. I had no complaints about the show, it was clearly well done, but after a season of episodes I decided I just wasn't the target audience. I watched it over a 7 day period and it was clearly affecting my mood and surprisingly enough, it wasn't in a good way. Even my cats started moping around the house.
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The DVDs normally come out around the start of the new season and Breaking Bad won't be starting again until July. So I would imagine mid to late June when the DVDs come out.
As for the mood of the show I sometimes get depressed watching the show but it is just so good I can look past that. My only problem with the show is probably going to be the finale. There is no way this show will end well, except for maybe Hank and Walt Jr. Everyone is either going to die or go to jail and it will probably be the most depressing hour ever on tv.
As for the mood of the show I sometimes get depressed watching the show but it is just so good I can look past that. My only problem with the show is probably going to be the finale. There is no way this show will end well, except for maybe Hank and Walt Jr. Everyone is either going to die or go to jail and it will probably be the most depressing hour ever on tv.
I think you all take TV way to serously!
I have felt all range of emotions watching TV and movies. However 5 minutes after I walk out of the theater and I quit watching at home its a done deal. Its entertainment. Its fake. Certainly not anything to dwell on. JMO.
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I think you all take TV way to serously!
I have felt all range of emotions watching TV and movies. However 5 minutes after I walk out of the theater and I quit watching at home its a done deal. Its entertainment. Its fake. Certainly not anything to dwell on. JMO.
I'm the same way if its one show or one movie but watching 15-20 episodes in a very short span has a deeper effect for me.
I watched all 6 seasons of Lost in a 4 week span and I started dreaming about the island every night.
I think you all take TV way to serously!
I have felt all range of emotions watching TV and movies. However 5 minutes after I walk out of the theater and I quit watching at home its a done deal. Its entertainment. Its fake. Certainly not anything to dwell on. JMO.
You and I watch TV/movies for two entirely different reasons. If it's not worth dwelling on, it's not worth my time. I have no interest in productions that have nothing more for me the moment I stop watching.
What are you looking for some deep outer lying message in what you a are watching that will help you get fulfillment in your life?
To some degree, sure. We wouldn't consume things like this if they didn't provide some kind of fulfillment.
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Wrong show. LOL. Forgot where I was at.
Yes, I think art should provide catharsis and be fulfilling on some level beyond the surface. The last 20 years have show TV can be real art, maybe even better than movies, in capturing our fascination while providing some insight about ourselves. I intend to honor television that shoots for that high mark.
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This is the blackest comedy ever conceived/executed. That's my two cents.
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For those who want to watch teh show or relive the episodes they are re-airing all of the show's episodes in succession starting tomorrow night at 11:00 pm CST. The first 2 eps air tomorrow, I don't know if they'll air the rest of them with 2 each Wednesday. I am glad cause I finally got the wife into the season and now we can watch season 3 together.
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