Breaking - McCoy Fired - 10.19.18

[Arz101]

I think this was because Boston was out. He took Boston's spot.

I am aware of Boston's injury. Why play three safety in 4-2-5 with a backup all game when your primary is injured. How about 4-3-4 looks for 50% of the snaps?

 

[Ronin]

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[Southpaw]

And you know this how exactly? So in his interview he said " im going to suck just like my last two jobs." He had to have given them some reason to believe he would be better here.

Steve Wilkes was the last HC hired last year. There was little left to choose from and Wilkes may have been desperate. He may have been just the OC Wilkes was looking for. One of those keep it close and the defense will win it. Wilkes does not appear to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

 

[Southpaw]

In his defense he was asked if he was going to steamline the playbook, he didn't just come up with it on his own. He is full of stupid comments for sure but this one wasn't his fault.

Could have said "no".

 

[ReasonableMan]

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I gotta level with ya, I like Wilks less the more he throws McCoy under the bus.

Sure McCoy sucked, but Wilks also sucks and his trying to shift blame looks sad and desperate.

 

[Chopper0080]

And you know this how exactly? So in his interview he said " im going to suck just like my last two jobs." He had to have given them some reason to believe he would be better here.

Yes. You watch how he has coordinated offenses and this is who he is. He is using David Johnson just like he used Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon struggled then and David Johnson is struggling now. McCoy sold his offense to the Cardinals, and they were dumb enough to believe it would work.

 

[Chopper0080]

Agreed. To take an ineffective offense and pare it down doesn't seem like the path to production. It is the simplicity and predictability of the offense that is the problem, not the complexity.

I mildly disagree.

At some point you have to establish a foundation of something that your QB likes to do and your offense can do well. You expand the offense from that point.

 

[moklerman]

I mildly disagree.

At some point you have to establish a foundation of something that your QB likes to do and your offense can do well. You expand the offense from that point.

But I don't think that the Cardinals have been trying to do too much or too many things, they've just been doing the wrong things. Paring down from what they've been doing won't do what you're suggesting. I agree that they need to identify what Rosen is most comfortable with but that's a different discussion.

 

[Chopper0080]

But I don't think that the Cardinals have been trying to do too much or too many things, they've just been doing the wrong things. Paring down from what they've been doing won't do what you're suggesting. I agree that they need to identify what Rosen is most comfortable with but that's a different discussion.

I don't believe Wilks sees it as different.

 

[moklerman]

I don't believe Wilks sees it as different.

Maybe not, but I wasn't trying to guess what he was thinking.

 

[LoyalRam]

Will Leftwitch save everyone else's job?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Will Leftwitch save everyone else's job?

If he does that well, I would get rid of Wilks and put Leftwich there.

 

[conraddobler]

I haven't seen all the games but from what I have seen it's highly possible this offense was giving off tells, we've been over this a bunch but back in the days of Mac and co, there were a few things about how a play developed so that I could just tell run, pass, run, pass etc.

Now me knowing wasn't so bad but lineman and Lber's blowing through gaps like rabid grizzly bears were a distinct problem for offensive cohesion.

It just seemed all too predictable.

So fast forward to this era, and again as others have said... how is simplifying the already predictable going to help a too predicatable problem?

We have no deep threat, we can't do much about that from what I see.

We have no good run blocking, you maybe can help that a bit but not much mid season.

So eliminating the predictability and improving play execution seems to be about all we have, they did run a good screen pass once, more of those, maybe eliminate running anything that develops way back in the backfield other than as a surprise but even then I'd toss those and nothing up the gut either, our gut sucks.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Aside from being terrible at his job-- and utterly predictable-- it certainly didn't help to face a Denver defense that faced him every day in practice a year ago.