Can the Cardinals Get Up Off the Mat?

[JosiahLee]

If they have any self respect, they will come out and punish the Colts. Not sure they have it in them.

There really are no excuses to lose in this fashion. No energy, no passion, no fight. Again, it’s inexcusable. It starts with the coaches. Gotta have your team more prepared than that with an opportunity to clinch a playoff spot.

 

[slanidrac16]

We scored 12 points against the 2nd worst defenseive team in the league.

and dont ever mention Mahommes, Manning or Favre ever again with Kyler until he AT THE VERY LEAST wins a big regular season game much less a playoff game. putting him in the same breath in any way shape or form is laughable at this point. He had nothing in common with those guys at this point.

I’m not putting Kyler in the class of those mentioned. The intention was even the greatest have had terrible games and I’m sure the fan base wanted to hang them from the upper deck.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m not putting Kyler in the class of those mentioned. The intention was even the greatest have had terrible games and I’m sure the fan base wanted to hang them from the upper deck.

Those guys are the best which is why the off game isn’t a big deal. Kyler’s got a lot of off games and has never elevated his team to the playoffs. Thus there’s literally no reason to mention them as “having bad games” because they’ve all proven to be championship level players.

 

[slanidrac16]

Those guys are the best which is why the off game isn’t a big deal. Kyler’s got a lot of off games and has never elevated his team to the playoffs. Thus there’s literally no reason to mention them as “having bad games” because they’ve all proven to be championship level players.

So what you’re saying is once you win a big game you’re allow to have a bad game but until you win a big game then you suck if you have a bad game. Okay.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Are the Cardinals done? Or can they can the get up off the deck and beat either the Colts, Boys or Hags?

Cards should watch rocky 4 training scene maybe that will get them pumped lol

Who knows at this point

 

[Snakester]

After watching the last two games I don’t know if they can. They just didn’t play like they wanted to win. I hope I’m wrong. Murray just didn’t look excited to play.

 

[Cheesebeef]

So what you’re saying is once you win a big game you’re allow to have a bad game but until you win a big game then you suck if you have a bad game. Okay.

I’m saying mentioning those guys in any way shape or form to say it’s okay that Kyler has multiple bad to terrible games in big spots is stupid because he doesn’t hVe the great important games to counter balance them.

This ain’t hard to understand.

 

[slanidrac16]

I’m saying mentioning those guys in any way shape or form to say it’s okay that Kyler has multiple bad to terrible games in big spots is stupid because he doesn’t hVe the great important games to counter balance them.

This ain’t hard to understand.

Is it so hard for you to understand that all I'm saying is even the great ones have terrible games. Kyler may never reach the levels of those mentioned but it doesn't mean he won't. He has shown samples of his potential. He has had some damn good games this season and he will have more. However, I'm sure he is going to have some more bad games to. Go back 8 weeks and read what people were saying about MaHomes. They ain't saying that now and who knows, but let's hope, they won't be saying the same about Kyler in 4 weeks.

Yes Kyler is 0-4 in clinching games. I get that. However his potential after 2 1/2 years bs his bad games is a very small sample size.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Is it so hard for you to understand that all I'm saying is even the great ones have terrible games. Kyler may never reach the levels of those mentioned but it doesn't mean he won't. He has shown samples of his potential. He has had some damn good games this season and he will have more. However, I'm sure he is going to have some more bad games to. Go back 8 weeks and read what people were saying about MaHomes. They ain't saying that now and who knows, but let's hope, they won't be saying the same about Kyler in 4 weeks.

Yes Kyler is 0-4 in clinching games. I get that. However his potential after 2 1/2 years bs his bad games is a very small sample size.

What do the great ones have to do with anything today?

NOTHING.

Which is why it’s assinine to continue bringing them up as reason to believe Kyler will be okay.

 

[slanidrac16]

What do the great ones have to do with anything today?

NOTHING.

Which is why it’s assinine to continue bringing them up as reason to believe Kyler will be okay.

Okay , lets leave it at that.

 

[FB94]

I don’t know. I hope this is a huge wake up call for this team. The loss to the Rams was not unexpected as they are a good team. But we play the lowly Lions and the Cards thought they could just roll out the ball and win this game. Our studs have played liked duds

 

[slanidrac16]

I don’t know. I hope this is a huge wake up call for this team. The loss to the Rams was not unexpected as they are a good team. But we play the lowly Lions and the Cards thought they could just roll out the ball and win this game. Our studs have played liked duds

It's like getting into a fight with a little nerdy guy and he kicks your ass. The thing that bothers me the worse is NOBODY was ready to play.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

If they have any self respect, they will come out and punish the Colts. Not sure they have it in them.

There really are no excuses to lose in this fashion. No energy, no passion, no fight. Again, it’s inexcusable. It starts with the coaches. Gotta have your team more prepared than that with an opportunity to clinch a playoff spot.

Oh I'm sure they'll come back Christmas night trying harder but it probably won't matter because our rush defense sucks green donkey ass lol. Taylor will run all over us. The only hope we have in stopping him is trying to punch the ball loose. He fumbled a lot at Wisconsin & that was his knock when drafted. I have no idea how much he's fumbled in the NFL.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So what you’re saying is once you win a big game you’re allow to have a bad game but until you win a big game then you suck if you have a bad game. Okay.

No. If you’ve won big having an off game isn’t an ongoing concern bc you’ve proven it’s an aberration. When you haven’t won anything a bad game tilts the scales against you bc you don’t have the big games on the other side to counterbalance the crap. Pretty simple concept.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’m saying mentioning those guys in any way shape or form to say it’s okay that Kyler has multiple bad to terrible games in big spots is stupid because he doesn’t hVe the great important games to counter balance them.

This ain’t hard to understand.

Borg

 

[Stout]

No.

 

[cardncubfan]

How about the #1 bitch in the league go and try to tackle his mistake and not bitch about his WR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GORRAM INTERCEPTION RETURN!!! KM lost all of my support on that play alone. Kid, you effed up. Go try to stop an INT from becoming a pick 6. I don't give a good gorram what your WR did--PLAY UNTIL THE GORRAM WHISTLE!!!

If he did & got hurt you would be bitching that he shouldn't be trying to tackle a GORRAM DB.



ps: I don't know why you are yelling GoRams?

 

[Russ Smith]

The big problems on offense are Kyler's INT's and the redzone offense. We were really good in the redzone last year, first half of this year, now we are really struggling. we had 15 TD's from WR's in the first part of the year, 2 after. So we're not getting the big plays and when we get into the redzone, if Conner doesn't run it in, we often struggle. Add in Kliff keeps going for it and it's become a problem

The defense it's obviously the run defense and because we have to use safeties to help now the pass defense is giving up the big plays. Wilson is still get exposed in coverage.

It's fixable but the problem is I think the biggest issue in the run defense is no JJ Watt and he's not coming back soon. And in the redzone offense it's been no Hopkins, the two games he played he had a TD and was close 2-3 other times, he's been the only guy that's able to get enough space to get the ball, him and Ertz. And he's not coming back soon.

Guys have to step up, Kyler has to step up, and Kliff has to figure some things out. I honestly think we should be running the ball more.

 

[slanidrac16]

No. If you’ve won big having an off game isn’t an ongoing concern bc you’ve proven it’s an aberration. When you haven’t won anything a bad game tilts the scales against you bc you don’t have the big games on the other side to counterbalance the crap. Pretty simple concept.

I would add to the concept that you need a pretty good supporting cast to teach certain goals. Can’t really stand on the mountain top and proclaim this team has been loaded over the last 3 years. Even so, Kyler has played a pretty big role getting this team from the doldrums of 2018 to today’s 10-4 season.

 

[cardcrazy]

Saturdays game against the Colts will determine who this team is.
It’s at home, in a dome, after an embarrassing beat down and once again on a National stage. There are no excuses.
They can give the sorry ass excuse of, “We we’re not prepared” against the Lions but not against the Colts!
If they are for real then they will beat the Colts. Or…as Bickley wrote,
“Are the Cards once again pretenders ready to get knocked off by the real heavyweights?”

 

[Totally_Red]

Good, well-coached teams like KC, GB and the Rams are starting to turn it up a notch for the stretch run and playoffs. At this point in the season good coaches know how to beat mediocre coaches. It is unsettling that for the second year in a row Kliff Kingsbury has not shown the ability to win in crunch time
Pending the next 3 games, I don't feel he has earned an extension.

 

[cardcrazy]

I’m finished giving these guys grace. All season I’ve made excuses for why they fall short. NO MORE!
It’s put up or shut up for every single player and coach on this team.
Kyler must shake of this post injury bug and get back to his MVP type performance! Stop the crybaby sulking!
Chandler Jones are you washed up? Prove it then!
Budda Baker you’re not the hardest hitting safety on the team anymore! How does that sound to you?
Kingsbury are you just gonna take this lying down? Get up and start a fire under there ASSES!
Stars rise to the occasion!
We’ll see on Saturday.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

How about the #1 bitch in the league go and try to tackle his mistake and not bitch about his WR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GORRAM INTERCEPTION RETURN!!! KM lost all of my support on that play alone. Kid, you effed up. Go try to stop an INT from becoming a pick 6. I don't give a good gorram what your WR did--PLAY UNTIL THE GORRAM WHISTLE!!!

Kid is the best thing that's happened to this franchise and you call him the #1 bitch in the league, what a clown.

10-4. Get a ******* grip.

 

[cardcrazy]

Kid is the best thing that's happened to this franchise and you call him the #1 bitch in the league, what a clown.

10-4. Get a ******* grip.

No he’s not the #1 bitch in the league but he sure acts like it when he goes to the bench and sulks like one! He needs to start leading this offense when adversity hits. He is the best thing since Warner, but I can see him regressing if he doesn’t grow up.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

We need our secondary to get up off the mat. Wilson and Murphy have been getting worked the past few weeks and our secondary has been surrendering big plays on the regular when they really hadn’t all season.