Cardinals 2006: Questions and Concerns

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1. Offensive line. What happens to the morale of the football team if it becomes apparent that the Cardinals still cannot run the ball?

A. The personnel suggests that the Cardinals may still struggle to run the ball. The middle of the line, particulary with Wells at LG and Leckey or Stepanovich at C appears to be too soft...and will likely be exploited by the opponents.

B. The 2nd year OC, Keith Rowen, seems very predictable in his run calls...which makes running for positive yards all the more difficult.

C. The running schemes lack imagination and the linemen do not look well repped in their assignments...it appears that the running game has not been stressed enough.

D. Edgerrin James has become the leader of the clubhouse. What happens when he starts taking an Emmitt Smith-type pounding? What will this do to James' morale and the morale of the whole offense and team?

2. The QB situation. Not only might one question Kurt Warner's physical stamina to endure the 16 game schedule, one might have to question his ability to make key decisions, particularly in the red zone. Warner seems free and wheeling between the twenties, but, thus far as a Cardinal he becomes noticeably more tentative in the red zone, and when that happens, he holds on to the ball longer...which leads to sacks and untimely setbacks...the weakness in Warner's game since his heydays in St. Louis.

Dennis Green and Warner have said that the red zone woes can be attributed to the lack of a running game...which has merit, certainly...but, what if the Cardinals still can't run the ball? They could take advantage of size mismatches galore in passing to Fitz, Q, BJ and now Leonard Pope...or one-on-one coverage mismatches with Edgerrin James out of the backfield.

Will Warner be more decisive this year? In game one against Pittsburgh he was...for example, his quick slant TD to Bryant Johnson, which wasn't pretty, but was effective.

The main problem is...Warner has a hard time buying time with his feet...and often this is what makes or breaks a red zone offense...if the QB can buy that little extra time, the receivers can shake free...Tom Brady is the master at buying time...and scramblers like Matt Hasselbeck and Donovan McNabb put a great deal of the pressure on the defense to be able to cover well enough, long enough, and be in a position to defend a QB on the loose.

Matt Leinart (it would initially appear, based on his college tendencies and his performance versus New England) gives the Cardinals an attractive package of skills in the red zone because he makes swift decisions with aplomb...and he has the feet, as we all saw in his debut, to buy time and/or to take off from the pocket. He's no Vince Young in that regard, obviously...but, like Tom Brady, his awareness under pressure is acute.

How quickly will Matt Leinart take over the reins at QB? An injury to Kurt Warner might expedite the change...but...Dennis Green needs results this year and will give Warner as much rope as possible...but if the Cardinals jump out to yet another slow start, Green might turn to Leinart quicker than anyone expects.

If this scenario unfolds, one must hope that Leinart is mentally prepared to take over the reins...he did miss two weeks of training camp and he's been of the mindset that this will be a year to sit and learn behind Warner.

If Green is smart, he should pull Leinart aside and hint that his day could come sooner than later.

3. Offensive touches. Whenever a team has a number of good offensive players...and those players are hungry for good stats...sometimes that will hurt the success and morale of the team (see Terrell Owens)...

While it would appear that Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin would gladly settle for less touches in lieu of more wins...that remains to be seen. When they get doubled, other WRs and the TEs may be the open receivers to throw to.

How will Edge feel about his stats? Particularly if the rushing totals are not Edge-like?

4. The run defense looks much improved thus far. Will it be when the lights come on? The personnel is definitely stronger with Clancy, Moore and Watson as classic run stuffers...and Gerald Hayes looks like a more physical presence at MLB...but, until they can stuff the likes of Shaun Alexander with regularity, there will be questions.

5. The pass defense. There were games last year where the Cardinals were so far off the receivers that one had to wonder what in the world they were doing. This past week versus the Patriots...the pass coverage was conspicuously poor...and the schemes were not aggressive. Will this be the case again this year?

In game one versus Pittsburgh, it was refreshing to see the likes of Ernest Shazor shadowing the TE man-to-man up the seam...and he even intercepted the ball on the play...but, what was going on versus the Patriots? The secondary made Matt Cassell look like an All-Pro. He was passing to wide open no-name receivers at will. Tom Brady...well, he looked like an All-Pro because he is one...but his night's work was made all the easier by the Cardinals' slow-to-pick up and react to the ball coverages.

6. The special teams. Like the run defense, the special teams look much improved thus far. They certainly look better coached. Will this be the case when the games count?

7. In-Game Adjustments from the Coaching Staff. Last year the adjustments were either late or non-recognizable...especially after the halfs when adjustments are so critical. Will this change?

8. Clock Management. Matt Leinart ran a textbook two-minute drill, making all the right decisions on passes and timeouts. Will this be a matter of course for the Cardinals this year?

I like the talent on the team...and would feel much better if the Cardinals picked up a solid LG, a blocking TE and one more good, aggressive CB...and I like that Dennis Green seems to be operating with a greater sense of urgency this year...there are many positives...and, as with most teams, many questions.

What are your thoughts?
 
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Mitch,

Do you mean picking up a LG for this year or "going forward"?

I think it's a little late in the game to realistically expect to find a LG who is better than what we have before the season starts and Latui should grow into this position fairly quickly in anticipation for '07.

My observations: I really think we need to see how things progress before we are in a position to answer many of your other questions (although they are fair ones indeed).

I for one will wait until the SF game is in the books before making any next step assumptions.
 

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I just wanted to touch on our base play calling (i.e. not a red-zone or two minute drill). It seems to me that, if we run on 1st down and don't gain much yardage, it's a 90% sure thing we're going to pass on 2nd down.

Similarly, if we pass on 1st down and don't complete it, it's a 90% sure thing we're going to run the ball.

You get the feeling, defenses are waiting for us on second down if we're not successful on 1st down.

This invariably leaves us with something like a 3rd & 8.

Which means: If we're not successful on 1st down, we tend to be meat for that series (unless we pull something out of our butt on 3rd down). Which puts a great deal of pressure on KW and our receivers in 3rd & long. They were terrific a year ago, but can they continue to work miracles?

We need to be less predictable when we're 2nd & long.

Anyone else see it the same way?
 
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This team is going to be a 60/40 pass to run team, make no mistake about it. I have said it before that our line could be a road grader in about 2 years but as of now it excells in pass blocking. What we do have though is a capable running back and a line with raw talent. Edge should get about 1200 yards rushing this year but hopefully this will complement a double digit number in TD's as well as yards receiving. This translates to about 75 yards per game rushing at that seems doable. Remember Edge doesn't need to run for 150 yds per game. He just needs to bring that safety up so that receivers have room to work and convert short yardage situations.
 

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JeffGollin said:
I just wanted to touch on our base play calling (i.e. not a red-zone or two minute drill). It seems to me that, if we run on 1st down and don't gain much yardage, it's a 90% sure thing we're going to pass on 2nd down.

Similarly, if we pass on 1st down and don't complete it, it's a 90% sure thing we're going to run the ball.

You get the feeling, defenses are waiting for us on second down if we're not successful on 1st down.

This invariably leaves us with something like a 3rd & 8.

Which means: If we're not successful on 1st down, we tend to be meat for that series (unless we pull something out of our butt on 3rd down). Which puts a great deal of pressure on KW and our receivers in 3rd & long. They were terrific a year ago, but can they continue to work miracles?

We need to be less predictable when we're 2nd & long.

Anyone else see it the same way?


I get the feeling something our line does is tipping off our running plays, maybe it's the QB or the RB or even the FB but somehow the other team seems to shoot the gaps hard on our running plays, mauling type shooting the gaps.

I watched some of the 1st preseason game and it looked as if the LB's just hung around the LOS and took off the second they smelled run, that leads me to believe one of the most important things we need to do is Play action fakes then pass quickly to the TE over, not over the middle so much because the saftey might be there but to either flat would be good.

We also of course need to make sure that we watch our own tape and that nothing pre-snap is different consistently from our runs and our passes, Looney should stress this, if our linemen are changing their stance even a little that's a dead give away.

Finally to your point, yes, I think our play calling needs a bit more creative randomness to it, I'd say my favorite is to run the exact same formation with tons of variations on what you do out of it, for this team that should be the 3 WR TE and one back sets, out of that we should be able to run just a ginormous amount of varied plays, use motion, whatever, but get our best set out there and make them guess at what's comming, hopefully they guess wrong a good deal.
 
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How quickly will Matt Leinart take over the reins at QB? An injury to Kurt Warner might expedite the change...but...Dennis Green needs results this year and will give Warner as much rope as possible...but if the Cardinals jump out to yet another slow start, Green might turn to Leinart quicker than anyone expects.
This needs to be qualified, right? I'm assuming you mean slow start and QB struggling. Slow start not because of QB does not warrant this change.
 

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Offensive touches. Whenever a team has a number of good offensive players...and those players are hungry for good stats...sometimes that will hurt the success and morale of the team (see Terrell Owens)...

The Cowboys did ok with ESmith,Irvin,Johnson,Novacek and Aikman. Edge did just fine with Harrison. Faulk with Bruce and Holt. Boldin and Fitz did great together last year. This shouldn't be a problem.

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The special teams. Like the run defense, the special teams look much improved thus far. They certainly look better coached. Will this be the case when the games count?

Zauner is the man when it comes to special teams. They should do nothing but get better. But then this is Arizona we're talking about so....
 

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Duckjake said:
The Cowboys did ok with ESmith,Irvin,Johnson,Novacek and Aikman. Edge did just fine with Harrison. Faulk with Bruce and Holt. Boldin and Fitz did great together last year. This shouldn't be a problem.

I admit that I'm nervous about this, too. The Cowboys did great when the were winning. Got along fine. The Quadruplets in Indianapolis and St. Louis won a lot of games together, as well. Anquan and Fitz both got theirs last season.

Edge has never known losing. He's never had a losing season in the NFL. I'm not worried about #81 and #11 if they both get "only" 75-80 touches apiece this season, because I think they'll still approach 1000 yards if they do. What I'm worried about is what happens if by week 5 the Cards are 1-4 and Edge is averaging 3.2 YPC with 2 TDs. I don't think anyone can predict what would happen then...
 

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Edge has never known losing.

I don't know about that. When was the last time Edge has played in the Superbowl? I would think all of those losses in the playoffs when they were expected to go farther would not feel good.
 

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Mitch said:
12. The QB situation. Not only might one question Kurt Warner's physical stamina to endure the 16 game schedule, one might have to question his ability to make key decisions, particularly in the red zone. Warner seems free and wheeling between the twenties, but, thus far as a Cardinal he becomes noticeably more tentative in the red zone, and when that happens, he holds on to the ball longer...which leads to sacks and untimely setbacks...the weakness in Warner's game since his heydays in St. Louis.


How will Edge feel about his stats? Particularly if the rushing totals are not Edge-like?

These 2 puzzle me.

First off the problem with the QB getting hit with the Rams was not just on Warner, it was the very design of the offense that left the QB exposed to hits because they had everyone out in the pattern every down. When it worked, nobody could stop it, but when it didn't, Warner got POUNDED. The key seemed to be the 3rd WR, when Hakim was there and playing, nobody could cover them all, when he left they never really replaced him, Kurt got beat up, and while still good they were never AS good. Kurt has flaws no doubt but what do you think is going to happen in the redzone when you can't run and everyone can double your WR's since you have no TE? If this is that bad this year I will be surprised.

On Edge and stats. Yes he'll complain, he's like Ricky Watters who once complained about touches the year he led the entire NFL in touches. That said, Edge played with Peyton Manning when he set an alltime record for passing TD's, I don't think Edge is going to be too upset about us throwing the ball he's been there before.
 

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I don't know about that. When was the last time Edge has played in the Superbowl? I would think all of those losses in the playoffs when they were expected to go farther would not feel good.

There's a bit of a difference between going 13-3 and losing a playoff game and going 5-11 with four blowouts on which you're on the wrong side, don't you think?
 

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kerouac9 said:
I admit that I'm nervous about this, too. The Cowboys did great when the were winning. Got along fine. The Quadruplets in Indianapolis and St. Louis won a lot of games together, as well. Anquan and Fitz both got theirs last season.

Edge has never known losing. He's never had a losing season in the NFL.

The Colts were 6-10 in 2001.
 

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The Colts were 6-10 in 2001.

Edge played in 6 games in 2001 - a major reason why Indy was as bad as they were, along with their horrific defense. Thus, again, he's never experienced playing on a losin team.
 

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There's a bit of a difference between going 13-3 and losing a playoff game and going 5-11 with four blowouts on which you're on the wrong side, don't you think?

I wouldn't know. My favorite NFL team has never been 13-3. Know all about 5-11 with multiple blowouts though.
 

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I still feel like we haven't seen our true running game yet. Edge has made no secret of the fact that he'd love to avoid preseason games and the injuries that come with them. Even with a shaky o. line, I think he's got the skills to move the ball. And, if we have any kind of true running game, I think the Cards are in the hunt for a play-off spot.

That's possibly the blind faith of a fan, I admit. I don't have the same faith in the skills of Shipp or Arrington, though.

I love this post and the thought that went into it. Thanks.
 

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I'm certainly not an expert on pro football. However, sometimes I wonder when run blocking, if the O-line wouldn't be better just firing off the ball when snapped and hit somebody, then let the running back (more or less) find the seam, especially with the Cards. They do have a big offensive line that should be able to create some holes.

Anyway, this is what I'm sensing all Edge wants from the O-line.

Sometimes I think the Card O-line when run blocking loses their aggression and instincts when they think too much. I know in pass defense, the O-Line definitely need to be in position to protect the QB.
 

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Mitch said:
1. Offensive line. What happens to the morale of the football team if it becomes apparent that the Cardinals still cannot run the ball?

A. The personnel suggests that the Cardinals may still struggle to run the ball. The middle of the line, particulary with Wells at LG and Leckey or Stepanovich at C appears to be too soft...and will likely be exploited by the opponents.
B. The 2nd year OC, Keith Rowen, seems very predictable in his run calls...which makes running for positive yards all the more difficult.
C. The running schemes lack imagination and the linemen do not look well repped in their assignments...it appears that the running game has not been stressed enough.
D. Edgerrin James has become the leader of the clubhouse. What happens when he starts taking an Emmitt Smith-type pounding? What will this do to James' morale and the morale of the whole offense and team?
2. The QB situation. Not only might one question Kurt Warner's physical stamina to endure the 16 game schedule, one might have to question his ability to make key decisions, particularly in the red zone. Warner seems free and wheeling between the twenties, but, thus far as a Cardinal he becomes noticeably more tentative in the red zone, and when that happens, he holds on to the ball longer...which leads to sacks and untimely setbacks...the weakness in Warner's game since his heydays in St. Louis.

Dennis Green and Warner have said that the red zone woes can be attributed to the lack of a running game...which has merit, certainly...but, what if the Cardinals still can't run the ball? They could take advantage of size mismatches galore in passing to Fitz, Q, BJ and now Leonard Pope...or one-on-one coverage mismatches with Edgerrin James out of the backfield.
Will Warner be more decisive this year? In game one against Pittsburgh he was...for example, his quick slant TD to Bryant Johnson, which wasn't pretty, but was effective.

The main problem is...Warner has a hard time buying time with his feet...and often this is what makes or breaks a red zone offense...if the QB can buy that little extra time, the receivers can shake free...Tom Brady is the master at buying time...and scramblers like Matt Hasselbeck and Donovan McNabb put a great deal of the pressure on the defense to be able to cover well enough, long enough, and be in a position to defend a QB on the loose.

Matt Leinart (it would initially appear, based on his college tendencies and his performance versus New England) gives the Cardinals an attractive package of skills in the red zone because he makes swift decisions with aplomb...and he has the feet, as we all saw in his debut, to buy time and/or to take off from the pocket. He's no Vince Young in that regard, obviously...but, like Tom Brady, his awareness under pressure is acute.

How quickly will Matt Leinart take over the reins at QB? An injury to Kurt Warner might expedite the change...but...Dennis Green needs results this year and will give Warner as much rope as possible...but if the Cardinals jump out to yet another slow start, Green might turn to Leinart quicker than anyone expects.

If this scenario unfolds, one must hope that Leinart is mentally prepared to take over the reins...he did miss two weeks of training camp and he's been of the mindset that this will be a year to sit and learn behind Warner.

If Green is smart, he should pull Leinart aside and hint that his day could come sooner than later.

3. Offensive touches. Whenever a team has a number of good offensive players...and those players are hungry for good stats...sometimes that will hurt the success and morale of the team (see Terrell Owens)...

While it would appear that Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin would gladly settle for less touches in lieu of more wins...that remains to be seen. When they get doubled, other WRs and the TEs may be the open receivers to throw to.

How will Edge feel about his stats? Particularly if the rushing totals are not Edge-like?
4. The run defense looks much improved thus far. Will it be when the lights come on? The personnel is definitely stronger with Clancy, Moore and Watson as classic run stuffers...and Gerald Hayes looks like a more physical presence at MLB...but, until they can stuff the likes of Shaun Alexander with regularity, there will be questions.

5. The pass defense. There were games last year where the Cardinals were so far off the receivers that one had to wonder what in the world they were doing. This past week versus the Patriots...the pass coverage was conspicuously poor...and the schemes were not aggressive. Will this be the case again this year?

In game one versus Pittsburgh, it was refreshing to see the likes of Ernest Shazor shadowing the TE man-to-man up the seam...and he even intercepted the ball on the play...but, what was going on versus the Patriots? The secondary made Matt Cassell look like an All-Pro. He was passing to wide open no-name receivers at will. Tom Brady...well, he looked like an All-Pro because he is one...but his night's work was made all the easier by the Cardinals' slow-to-pick up and react to the ball coverages.

6. The special teams. Like the run defense, the special teams look much improved thus far. They certainly look better coached. Will this be the case when the games count?

7. In-Game Adjustments from the Coaching Staff. Last year the adjustments were either late or non-recognizable...especially after the halfs when adjustments are so critical. Will this change?

8. Clock Management. Matt Leinart ran a textbook two-minute drill, making all the right decisions on passes and timeouts. Will this be a matter of course for the Cardinals this year?

I like the talent on the team...and would feel much better if the Cardinals picked up a solid LG, a blocking TE and one more good, aggressive CB...and I like that Dennis Green seems to be operating with a greater sense of urgency this year...there are many positives...and, as with most teams, many questions.

What are your thoughts?



This was buried at the end of a Republic story today on Gorin.

Taking it slow
Running back Edgerrin James, who has four carries for 3 yards in two preseason games, says he doesn't share the concerns of some onlookers about the state of the offensive line.

"Everything I've seen, I've liked," he said. "I know we're going to be all right."

Asked specifically about left tackle Leonard Davis, James said, "He should be in the Pro Bowl unless they do some Florida voting. There's no doubt that he should be in the Pro Bowl this year. He's having a good camp."

I'd like to beleive that Edge knows he can run with our line. And maybe this is a real stretch but that the OL is following his lead during preseason. Especially after all of the injuries last season. Just maybe the OL just wants to get to the games that count intact. You can't judge the team based on preseason performance. And everyone knows the line was piecemeal most of last season.
 

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