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Wouldn't be surprised to see Dobbs back as backup next year if he can't find a starter gig.

Tune ain't it.

Why would he come back? Because he was treated so well here?

We gotta trade back man lmao. As great as MHJR is, he isn’t
multiple tiers above other WRs.



Screw you to hell, Steve Keim.

Definitely need more skill position players.

People will roast the Captain for today, but he rarely got any help or coverage from TEs and RBs against the presumptive defensive player of the year. Great game plan.
 

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People will roast the Captain for today, but he rarely got any help or coverage from TEs and RBs against the presumptive defensive player of the year. Great game plan.

He's an 8 year vet and a top 10 paid LT. Not some 2nd string guy or rookie.
 

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Happy for Dobbs, he has much better protection from the offensive line
Possibly even Tune isnt that bad at all, but a lot has tò do with One the most putrid offense in the NFL
If im Murray i would fake a minor setback ending his season
 

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He's an 8 year vet and a top 10 paid LT. Not some 2nd string guy or rookie.
Every team gives their LT help against top pass rushers. On third and long PJJ was getting a TE (sometimes two) and RB help on his side.

That’s a failing strategy.
 

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Every team gives their LT help against top pass rushers. On third and long PJJ was getting a TE (sometimes two) and RB help on his side.

That’s a failing strategy.

BS. Trent Williams gets help? Tunsil gets help? Bakhtiari needs help? Garbage tackles or rookies need help.


And do you know he didn't because you watched every Hump snap?
 

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BS. Trent Williams gets help? Tunsil gets help? Bakhtiari needs help? Garbage tackles or rookies need help.


And do you know he didn't because you watched every Hump snap?
Yes. Those guys get help against JJ Watt and Bosa and Garrett. That’s how it works.
 

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Well...we might get a peak at the plan for the future.
If Hump is out for a while do we play Beachum at LT or move PJ to LT and put Beachum at RT??

IMO leaving Johnson at RT indicates we are in the market for an LT and could affect our draft strategy.
 

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This was the same Oline that had been playing all year, they just faced a D that was better. Cleveland also rushed Tune more because they didn’t respect him.
Look, if Kyler was playing (and let’s say he stayed healthy) all season I believe we would be 4-4 coming into this game.
The way our defense was playing and the fact that Kyler can evade the rush and make throws outside the pocket, I bet it would’ve been a close game. 3 turnovers by Tune gave the Browns 14 easy points.
If Kylers healthy, you play him! It’s ludicrous to hold him out because you’re afraid he’s not ready?!? And Tune was?
If Murray doesn’t take over next week then I have no respect this leadership. That was one of the worst offensive displays in NFL history!
 

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Kyler has to play and you have to evaluate him. Tough to evaluate any offensive player with Tune at QB. One of the problems of having a terrible roster is that it make sit more difficult to evaluate players.
Correct. Additionally, it makes it more difficult when the suckage is seemingly everywhere.
 
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