Cardinals | Cutting Kolb can save a lot of $$ - Rotoworld opinion

[overseascardfan]

Disagree completely. There are no sure things in the NFL. Look at Haynesworth. If you are going to start firing people every time a mistake in player personnel is made, you are going to be in trouble. FA's/draft work out less than 50% of the time. You take your chances. You win some, you lose some, but you try to keep going in an upward direction.

The Cards were smart in that they hedged their bet on Kolb and can get rid of him without too much monetary damage if they so desire.

Where have you been? This is not the only failure the FO has made, hell its not even the only one they made this year, hello Stewart Bradley. They could have very well signed Hasselback and drafted a QB in Round 1 of this year. Comparing Haynesworth to Kolb is apples to oranges, Haynesworth is a lazy SOB who didn't want to play in a 3-4 system, Kolb isn't worth the contract he signed or the players given up for him. The only good thing about getting rid of DRC is that Marshall has been playing very well and is a much better tackler.

Point is that the FO has made a lot of peculiar moves since the SB namely letting a lot of the players from that team go. Of course some needed to go, hello Antrel Rolle but all in all this FO has way more misses than hits.

 

[Phrazbit]

His injury problems alone merit the consideration of dumping his contract... then when you combine his really poor play dumping him seems like the obvious direction to go.

However, too many people involved in this organization will look stupid if they dump Kolb, so instead they will compound the mistake by wasting cap space and games next season by keeping him on the roster for one more year.

 

[nashman]

I can't wait to see all the back tracking once Kolb has had an offseason to practice and actually have a legitimate chance at learning the offense and starts playing well. I have a sneaky suspicion most of you haters won't be around to eat some crow. And let's not act like Skelton hasn't been studying this offense for his second season now regardless of what some of you think, he should be way ahead of Kolb in actuality. It's to soon to write off Kolb but that's how fans are, Skelton makes some plays and all of a sudden he should be the starter then when he stinks people can't wait for Kolb to get back in there. It is comical at this point but have a feeling a real offseason will change things!

 

[Totally_Red]

The Cardinals are paying Kevin Kolb $16-million next season? That's 4-million more than Kurt Warner got after leading the team to the Super Bowl. He must have one helluva of an agent.

 

[Chopper0080]

Patience. Cutting Kolb only weakens our QB position overall and would prevent us from properly addressing either our LB depth or OL in the draft. It's only money, and we would just waste it on a guy like Stewart Bradley anyways.

 

[Duckjake]

Patience. Cutting Kolb only weakens our QB position overall and would prevent us from properly addressing either our LB depth or OL in the draft. It's only money, and we would just waste it on a guy like Stewart Bradley anyways.

Very true. Especially about the money. Skelator is 47-74-595 yards 5TD and 3INT over the last two games. I don't think it really matters who plays QB the rest of this season.

 

[chickenhead]

I agree. No point in talking about cutting Kolb unless we're talking about an actual replacement option. I do think Kolb-Skelton in whatever combination will be better next year after the full offseason.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I can't wait to see all the back tracking once Kolb has had an offseason to practice and actually have a legitimate chance at learning the offense and starts playing well. I have a sneaky suspicion most of you haters won't be around to eat some crow. And let's not act like Skelton hasn't been studying this offense for his second season now regardless of what some of you think, he should be way ahead of Kolb in actuality. It's to soon to write off Kolb but that's how fans are, Skelton makes some plays and all of a sudden he should be the starter then when he stinks people can't wait for Kolb to get back in there. It is comical at this point but have a feeling a real offseason will change things!

Well lets all hope that your QB talent evaluating is as bad as your RB evaluating. Has edge found a job yet? What has KK done to warrant your praise? Not just here but the 5 years he's been in the league.

 

[Shane]

This mod was at Knotts Berry Farm today sorry.

I did get to watch the game though

SWEET! Hope you guys had a great time

You missed the best halftime meet ever!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Disagree completely. There are no sure things in the NFL. Look at Haynesworth. If you are going to start firing people every time a mistake in player personnel is made, you are going to be in trouble. FA's/draft work out less than 50% of the time. You take your chances. You win some, you lose some, but you try to keep going in an upward direction.

The Cards were smart in that they hedged their bet on Kolb and can get rid of him without too much monetary damage if they so desire.

Agreed.

And if Double Deuce is the better QB, it would be crazy not to cut Kolb. The success of the current team is because of its defense, and to risk not re-signing some of the defensive talent because of a public relations move to keep some multi-million dollar mistake on the roster to save face would be the worst move to make of all.

If the Cardinals want to keep Kolb because they believe in him, and 100% think he better than Skelton then fine.

But, if they keep him to save face, then screw this dimwitted organization and their inability to keep talent in sake of crap like this.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

It is comical at this point but have a feeling a real offseason will change things!

That would be great.

I would love to see Kolb come in, take the job with both hands, be succesfull, and never let go of it again.

But, that is speculation.

So far, the stats, W/L, and everything else shows that Skelton is leading the team to victories.

As I said, I have no problem with Kolb, but he should have to EARN his starting spot this year, and next. I think it would be a huge mistake to give the job to Kolb without competition, ala Lyle Sendlien. The best center never to have had competed for his spot on the Cardinals roster.

 

[kerouac9]

I have no problem letting Kolb hang around Graves' and Whis's necks for another season. But I'd like for Whis to admit that at least there's a quarterback competition in camp next year. Apparently it's impossible to be happy at the quarterback position when you're coming off a 5-11 season, but you're tickled pink benching the guy who lead you to a 5-1 record for the guy that was leading you to a 2-6 season. Makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Chopper0080]

I have no problem letting Kolb hang around Graves' and Whis's necks for another season. But I'd like for Whis to admit that at least there's a quarterback competition in camp next year. Apparently it's impossible to be happy at the quarterback position when you're coming off a 5-11 season, but you're tickled pink benching the guy who lead you to a 5-1 record for the guy that was leading you to a 2-6 season. Makes no sense whatsoever.

I see what you are saying, but I think most would agree that we are winning despite our QB play more than because of it.

Forgot who I heard this from the other day, but it was an interesting point. Guy said that great QB's get you to the playoffs, but great teams win the Super Bowl. I think I agree with this.

 

[Duckjake]

That would be great.

I would love to see Kolb come in, take the job with both hands, be succesfull, and never let go of it again.

But, that is speculation.

So far, the stats, W/L, and everything else shows that Skelton is leading the team to victories.

As I said, I have no problem with Kolb, but he should have to EARN his starting spot this year, and next. I think it would be a huge mistake to give the job to Kolb without competition, ala Lyle Sendlien. The best center never to have had competed for his spot on the Cardinals roster.

I wonder if competition at QB is a good thing. Whenever the Cards have had that situation it hasn't worked out too well.

As for Sendlein he's the only Cardinal offensive lineman to start every game since 2008 at the same position. 68 consecutive games.

He also had competition for the C spot in 2007 playing behind Al Johnson, that stellar FA pick up. On 2nd thought maybe you are right. Sendlein hasn't ever had any competition.

 

[az1965]

Isn't Drew Brees an FA? I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Kolb but I'd be willing to give him a chance.

Steve

Is this a trick question for intellectually challenged??

 

[Chopper0080]

I wonder if competition at QB is a good thing. Whenever the Cards have had that situation it hasn't worked out too well.

As for Sendlein he's the only Cardinal offensive lineman to start every game since 2008 at the same position. 68 consecutive games.

He also had competition for the C spot in 2007 playing behind Al Johnson, that stellar FA pick up. On 2nd thought maybe you are right. Sendlein hasn't ever had any competition.

Sendlein is underrated in my opinion. Consistency at C is very important.

 

[Mulli]

Sendlein is underrated in my opinion. Consistency at C is very important.

Patriots have used 4 different centers.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Is this a trick question for intellectually challenged??

I was playfully mocking the "Kolb will be great" crowd.

Steve

 

[az1965]

I was playfully mocking the "Kolb will be great" crowd.

Steve

LOL

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Sendlein is underrated in my opinion. Consistency at C is very important.

Not as important as skill and ability in my opinion.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I wonder if competition at QB is a good thing. Whenever the Cards have had that situation it hasn't worked out too well.

Really ?

If it was not for a competition we would have started Leinart in the 2008 season and not Warner.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I see what you are saying, but I think most would agree that we are winning despite our QB play more than because of it.

Forgot who I heard this from the other day, but it was an interesting point. Guy said that great QB's get you to the playoffs, but great teams win the Super Bowl. I think I agree with this.

And we didn't win against the Cowboys in spite of Kolb ?

Regardless, the whole statement is just not accurate.

Skelton may not be playing lights out, but he has made some passes that few QB's in the NFL can make, in clutch situations. He has carried his share of the load in our wins.

"In spite of" ? NO. Certainly not, that is a gross exaggeration.

He is not carrying this team on his back, he is not going to be able to win a game all by himself ala Warner. That is for sure. But the is playing well enough to hold up his end of the situation, and the team is winning with him under center.

I can think of one clutch throw that Kolb has had since he has played for the Cardinals, and that was a screen pass.

Again, focusing on a 27 year QB who has a lot a work on, instead of focusing on a 23 year old QB how has the ability to throw passes many cannot is just ridiculous, IMHO.

 

[juza76]

if they need money to sign campbell to long term deal .yes they should cut him...i prefer drafting kellen mooreIN ROUND 4 OR 5(ok is short..but also brees is short ,,his pass completations are over 70%)...skelton can lead to us to winning division..is is 7 3 as a starter....kolb i think is about 4 win and 11 losses ( 2 win and 5 loss with eagles and 2 win and 6 loss with cards)...stats lie for u guys?? he had few wins even agaisnt bad teams ,,also with a good team like eagles couldnt do nothing special...injury prone...if u touch him is carted off

 

[kerouac9]

I see what you are saying, but I think most would agree that we are winning despite our QB play more than because of it.

Forgot who I heard this from the other day, but it was an interesting point. Guy said that great QB's get you to the playoffs, but great teams win the Super Bowl. I think I agree with this.

Maybe, but would you rather win in spite of your $11 million quarterback, or in spite of your $800,000 quarterback? How many games does Kolb have to lose before he loses the faith of his teammates. Weren't you the guy hammering on "credibility" when it comes to Horton's hire? What credibility does Kolb bring at this point other than the fact that his backups have outperformed him two jobs in a row?

I don't think that either guy is the answer at the quarterback position for the Cards for the long term, but if Kolb is on the roster you're forced to play him. If Skelton's competing with two other guys, then you can play the best one.

If Kolb got cut March 1, who picks him up and makes him their presumptive starter? Maybe Jacksonville? He'd compete with Matt Moore and a draft pick in Miami.

We paid a 2nd round pick and DRC and $21 million guaranteed for a slightly better Colt McCoy.

 

[Stout]

I see what you are saying, but I think most would agree that we are winning despite our QB play more than because of it.

Forgot who I heard this from the other day, but it was an interesting point. Guy said that great QB's get you to the playoffs, but great teams win the Super Bowl. I think I agree with this.

Even if I agreed that we were winning in spite of Skelton (which I don't), it's a heck of a lot better than losing with Kolb. The records speak for themselves.