Cardinals Free Agents + Full NFL List / 2012

[Gee!]

Name / Position / Years / Team / Status

Hamza Abdullah S 7 ARI UFA
D'Anthony Batiste T 5 ARI UFA
Calais Campbell DE 4 ARI UFA
Sean Considine S 7 ARI UFA
Early Doucet WR 4 ARI UFA
Jay Feely K 11 ARI UFA
Clark Haggans OLB 12 ARI UFA
Vonnie Holliday DE 14 ARI UFA
Rashad Johnson S 3 ARI RFA
Brandon Keith T 4 ARI UFA
Mike Leach LS 11 ARI UFA
Deuce Lutui G 6 ARI UFA
Richard Marshall CB 6 ARI UFA
Joey Porter OLB 13 ARI UFA
LaRod Stephens-Howling RB 3 ARI RFA
Chester Taylor RB 10 ARI UFA
Greg Toler CB 3 ARI RFA 0 0
Reggie Walker MLB 3 ARI RFA
Pork Chop Womack G 11 ARI UFA
Dave Zastudil P 10 ARI UFA


Full List: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/12/2012-free-agent-tracker/

 

[cardsfanmd]

very helpful, thanks for posting...

Out of that list, I hope we're able to hold on to:

Campbell
Doucet
Haggans
R. Johnson (R)
Holliday
Leach
Marshall
Howling (R)
Toler (R)

On the plus side, coming off an injury, we should be able to get a pretty fair deal with Toler. Going into next year with P-twice, Toler, Marshall, Jefferson and Adams would be nice.

 

[juza76]

campbell hollyday walker toler marshall lsh36 must be signed,the others a well good bye

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Name / Position / Years / Team / Status

Hamza Abdullah S 7 ARI UFA
D'Anthony Batiste T 5 ARI UFA
Calais Campbell DE 4 ARI UFA
Sean Considine S 7 ARI UFA
Early Doucet WR 4 ARI UFA
Jay Feely K 11 ARI UFA
Clark Haggans OLB 12 ARI UFA
Vonnie Holliday DE 14 ARI UFA
Rashad Johnson S 3 ARI RFA
Brandon Keith T 4 ARI UFA
Mike Leach LS 11 ARI UFA
Deuce Lutui G 6 ARI UFA
Richard Marshall CB 6 ARI UFA
Joey Porter OLB 13 ARI UFA
LaRod Stephens-Howling RB 3 ARI RFA
Chester Taylor RB 10 ARI UFA
Greg Toler CB 3 ARI RFA 0 0
Reggie Walker MLB 3 ARI RFA
Pork Chop Womack G 11 ARI UFA
Dave Zastudil P 10 ARI UFA


Full List: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/12/2012-free-agent-tracker/

The Cardinals also have some exclusive rights free agents:
Rich Bartell
Max Hall
Alfonso Smith
Stephen Williams
Daryl Talley
Brandon Williams
A.J. Jefferson

Not sure if Porter's contract is up or not, since I have not read about how he re-structured his contract, but it says he has one more year, here, (not that it really matters, he is going to retire):
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/653/joey-porter

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Players I would like to see, at the very least, brought into camp:

The list seems long, but except for Calais Campbell these signings are "easy". A bunch of RFA's, EFA's, and players that can be signed to low money deals that would just be happy to have a job next year.

D'Anthony Batiste, OT
Calais Campbell, DE
Clark Haggans, OLB
Vonnie Holliday, DE
Rashad Johnson, S
Brandon Keith, OT <-- One year, cheap-o contract
Richard Marshall, DB
LSH, RB
Greg Toler, CB
Reggie Walker, ILB
AJ Jefferson, CB
Rich Bartell, QB
Alfonso Smith, RB
Stephen Williams, WR
Daryl Talley, DE
Brandon Williams, OLB

 

[Chopper0080]

Doucet is the biggest question mark for me since it will really depend on what his contract demands are. For what he brings to the Cardinals, it would have to be on the low end.

 

[kerouac9]

Doucet is the biggest question mark for me since it will really depend on what his contract demands are. For what he brings to the Cardinals, it would have to be on the low end.

Maybe if you repeat this in enough threads, it'll come true.

Doucet is equally productive with any of the other #2 WRs around the NFL. His familiarity with and productivity in the system makes him more valuable than any of the other guys.

I know you think this is Madden where you can just pull guys out of their old systems and plug them into new ones and immediately have them be as good, but the NFL doesn't work like that.

Especially at WR, where free agency busts are far, far more common than success stories. Anquan Boldin's last two years in Baltimore haven't approached his five best seasons in Arizona. Santonio Holmes's last two years in New York haven't eclipsed the yardage totals he put up his rookie season in Pittsburgh, where he only started 4 games.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Maybe if you repeat this in enough threads, it'll come true.

Doucet is equally productive with any of the other #2 WRs around the NFL. His familiarity with and productivity in the system makes him more valuable than any of the other guys.

I know you think this is Madden where you can just pull guys out of their old systems and plug them into new ones and immediately have them be as good, but the NFL doesn't work like that.

Especially at WR, where free agency busts are far, far more common than success stories. Anquan Boldin's last two years in Baltimore haven't approached his five best seasons in Arizona. Santonio Holmes's last two years in New York haven't eclipsed the yardage totals he put up his rookie season in Pittsburgh, where he only started 4 games.

I agree 100%.

Doucet proved that he could stay healthy for an entire season. That was his biggest question mark coming into the season.

He put up numbers comparable to other #2 WRs around the league.

Doucet has clearly separated himself from Roberts as the true #2 WR on this team.

 

[Chopper0080]

Maybe if you repeat this in enough threads, it'll come true.

Doucet is equally productive with any of the other #2 WRs around the NFL. His familiarity with and productivity in the system makes him more valuable than any of the other guys.

I know you think this is Madden where you can just pull guys out of their old systems and plug them into new ones and immediately have them be as good, but the NFL doesn't work like that.

Especially at WR, where free agency busts are far, far more common than success stories. Anquan Boldin's last two years in Baltimore haven't approached his five best seasons in Arizona. Santonio Holmes's last two years in New York haven't eclipsed the yardage totals he put up his rookie season in Pittsburgh, where he only started 4 games.

I'm estatic that you are fine with a receiving corp of Fitz, Doucet, and Roberts but I'm not. Harping on the necessity of keeping players like Doucet just because they know the system and passing on more talented players is something for teams with winning receords to do. Teams that rode a hot streak to an 8-8 season need to make strategical improvements to their roster when FA offers them a variety of quality players that bring different aspects to the team.

So by all means, beat the "resign Levi Brown" and "resign Early Doucet" drum while I look for ways to improve our roster rather than keeping the status quo and having another 8-8 season.

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree 100%.

Doucet proved that he could stay healthy for an entire season. That was his biggest question mark coming into the season.

He put up numbers comparable to other #2 WRs around the league.

Doucet has clearly separated himself from Roberts as the true #2 WR on this team.

I didn't see this this year at all. In fact, it looked to me that Roberts established himself as the more reliable of the two over the course of the season.

 

[Mulli]

I'm estatic that you are fine with a receiving corp of Fitz, Doucet, and Roberts but I'm not. Harping on the necessity of keeping players like Doucet just because they know the system and passing on more talented players is something for teams with winning receords to do. Teams that rode a hot streak to an 8-8 season need to make strategical improvements to their roster when FA offers them a variety of quality players that bring different aspects to the team.

So by all means, beat the "resign Levi Brown" and "resign Early Doucet" drum while I look for ways to improve our roster rather than keeping the status quo and having another 8-8 season.

Are you ecstatic or not?

Look at Doucet's stats last season. Not bad.

 

[Chopper0080]

Are you ecstatic or not?

Look at Doucet's stats last season. Not bad.

You suck. (I'm ecstatic for sure now)

Doucet's season wasn't bad, but like Breaston last offseason, it is replaceable for half the money and definitely upgradable. I just don't see the value in spending $20 million on Doucet for his one productive season that was highlighted by inconsistency.

I think both Meachem and Manningham have a much higher ceiling for around the same price, and would them like to look at a guy in the draft to come in and battle for the 4Wr spot.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Are you ecstatic or not?

Look at Doucet's stats last season. Not bad.

Numbers or situations ?

Too many drops, in too many clutch situations. Seriously, since Warner left when has Doucet come through in the clutch ? To be fair at the beginning of this season he was looking to be that guy on 3rd down, and then, like he always seems to do, he vanished.

Plus, IMO, he is a Andre Roberts clone.

Do we really need two slot receivers that both drop passes in key situations ?

Signing Doucet ? Fine. To a fair contract, as long as we bring in other "possession receiver", and realize that Andre Roberts now becomes our 4th WR. Which I am fine with as well. Cause what we got, IMO, is not good enough.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I didn't see this this year at all. In fact, it looked to me that Roberts established himself as the more reliable of the two over the course of the season.

But Doucet can... He's better than... “He’s got huge, sharp… er… He can leap about. Look at the bones!”

 

[az jam]

There are so many good WR free agents that I would really like to see the Cards target and get one of them.

 

[Stout]

I'm estatic that you are fine with a receiving corp of Fitz, Doucet, and Roberts but I'm not. Harping on the necessity of keeping players like Doucet just because they know the system and passing on more talented players is something for teams with winning receords to do. Teams that rode a hot streak to an 8-8 season need to make strategical improvements to their roster when FA offers them a variety of quality players that bring different aspects to the team.

So by all means, beat the "resign Levi Brown" and "resign Early Doucet" drum while I look for ways to improve our roster rather than keeping the status quo and having another 8-8 season.

I have to agree with you here.

Numbers or situations ?

Too many drops, in too many clutch situations. Seriously, since Warner left when has Doucet come through in the clutch ? To be fair at the beginning of this season he was looking to be that guy on 3rd down, and then, like he always seems to do, he vanished.

Plus, IMO, he is a Andre Roberts clone.

Do we really need two slot receivers that both drop passes in key situations ?

Signing Doucet ? Fine. To a fair contract, as long as we bring in other "possession receiver", and realize that Andre Roberts now becomes our 4th WR. Which I am fine with as well. Cause what we got, IMO, is not good enough.

Exactly. Doucet faceplants in key situations, and Roberts also has a bad case of the dropsies. Since Roberts is already under contract, we might as well keep him out of the two. We need to find a speedy, spread-the-field #2 WR in the offseason, and they're more than available in free agency. Garcon would be my choice.

 

[Duckjake]

Numbers or situations ?

Too many drops, in too many clutch situations.

Plus, IMO, he is a Andre Roberts clone.

Do we really need two slot receivers that both drop passes in key situations ?

Signing Doucet ? Fine. To a fair contract, as long as we bring in other "possession receiver", and realize that Andre Roberts now becomes our 4th WR. Which I am fine with as well. Cause what we got, IMO, is not good enough.

I agree Rugby and with Chopper as well. Neither Roberts nor Doucet have shown me anything special at all. The two of them combined don't make as many big plays over the entire season as Fitzgerald does in one game.

Doucet can be easily replaced. DeMarco Sampson can take his slot. Sampson just needs more time to learn CKW's complex offense.

 

[Mulli]

I agree Rugby and with Chopper as well. Neither Roberts nor Doucet have shown me anything special at all. The two of them combined don't make as many big plays over the entire season as Fitzgerald does in one game.

Doucet can be easily replaced. DeMarco Sampson can take his slot. Sampson just needs more time to learn CKW's complex offense.

 

[Duckjake]

Not the first paragraph.

 

[Duckjake]

Hey JohnH, what can you tell us about Arkansas WR Jarius Wright? 4.34 40 time and one draft site shows his stock rising. Jumped over Joe Adams as the Razorbacks #1 WR. Was listed as a potential 5th round pick but rising.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm estatic that you are fine with a receiving corp of Fitz, Doucet, and Roberts but I'm not. Harping on the necessity of keeping players like Doucet just because they know the system and passing on more talented players is something for teams with winning receords to do. Teams that rode a hot streak to an 8-8 season need to make strategical improvements to their roster when FA offers them a variety of quality players that bring different aspects to the team.

So by all means, beat the "resign Levi Brown" and "resign Early Doucet" drum while I look for ways to improve our roster rather than keeping the status quo and having another 8-8 season.

How desperate are you to be making this argument? THE CARDS WERE 7-2 OVER THEIR LAST 9 GAMES, but you think this team needs a serious roster rethink to improve over 8-8?

They're getting back a promising RB, fist round NT, staring cornerback, and hopefully a healthy FS in Rhodes that they didn't have in their final run. How far away do you think this team really is?

Again, you can ignore the fact that free agent WRs rarely live up to their billings on new teams. I guess doing something for the sale of having done it is a good idea. I mean, it brought us Kevin Kolb and his 3-14 record as a starter.

What reason is there to think that Meachem is "more talented" than Doucet? They were equally productive this year, despite Meachem having vastly superior quarterback play.

 

[Mulli]

I seem to recall Meachum dropping a TD pass last week.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I agree Rugby and with Chopper as well. Neither Roberts nor Doucet have shown me anything special at all. The two of them combined don't make as many big plays over the entire season as Fitzgerald does in one game.

Doucet can be easily replaced.

Agreed. Another consideration...teams are constantly focusing the lions share of their attention on Fitz, and bracketing him on a consistent basis. The beauty of having Boldin was that it made it harder for teams to double one or the other.

An upgrade at #2 receiver would help both Fitz and the QB. (Hopefully someone other than Kevin Skelton)

 

[kerouac9]

Agreed. Another consideration...teams are constantly focusing the lions share of their attention on Fitz, and bracketing him on a consistent basis. The beauty of having Boldin was that it made it harder for teams to double one or the other.

An upgrade at #2 receiver would help both Fitz and the QB. (Hopefully someone other than Kevin Skelton)

More consistent play from the QB would deliver the same results. What's more likely: both Roberts and Doucet are incapable starters, or Kolb and Skelton made both of them look worse than they are?

Both guys were running free through the secondary at times last year and the QBs couldn't deliver them the ball.

 

[Mulli]

More consistent play from the QB would deliver the same results. What's more likely: both Roberts and Doucet are incapable starters, or Kolb and Skelton made both of them look worse than they are?

Both guys were running free through the secondary at times last year and the QBs couldn't deliver them the ball.

Woo hoo, K9 saved me from posting the exact same thing.