Cardinals @ Jaguars postgame thread

[BullheadCardFan]

3) on the big boxout catch by AJ everyone on the game thread said the same thing it was blatant PI, would they have called it if AJ doesn't make the catch?

Blatant PI on that play

The no call was strange, but not unusual for Cardinals

 

[Stout]

Lots not to love about that game, and in many ways it was unacceptable effort and lack of motivation, and we'll get crushed if we do this against even average teams. The real takeaway, however, is it's a win and we're 3-0.

 

[eastcoastDave]

Cards could easily be 1-2, instead of 3-0. Have no idea how the team will perform moving forward. The schedule is pretty tough, with games against Cleveland, Green Bay, Carolina and Dallas in addition to the West teams. Sometimes I think the Cardinals will be very good. Other times, not so much. Today, I’m feeling like the team will be in the “not so much” category.

 

[Proximo]

Cards could easily be 1-2, instead of 3-0. Have no idea how the team will perform moving forward. The schedule is pretty tough, with games against Cleveland, Green Bay, Carolina and Dallas in addition to the West teams. Sometimes I think the Cardinals will be very good. Other times, not so much. Today, I’m feeling like the team will be in the “not so much” category.

Next weeks performance will show a lot.

i too am somewhat unsure, but I am beginning to think the Seahawks and 49ers are not the juggernauts they are made out to be.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's straight from Kylers fam. He tolerates Kliff. Never picked him before

What does “never picked him before” mean?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I am not sold on Lincoln Riley as a NFL coach.

Not am I. Has been able to win with superior talent but consistently gets busted in the chops when it’s time to play the big boys.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Next weeks performance will show a lot.

i too am somewhat unsure, but I am beginning to think the Seahawks and 49ers are not the juggernauts they are made out to be.

Seahawks might finally be do for a dip in the win-loss column.

And the Niners haven’t looked like world beaters and look awful so far tonight with injuries piling up every game.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

What does “never picked him before” mean?

Kliff has chased Kyler for several opportunities and Kyler has always rebuffed him

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Kliff has chased Kyler for several opportunities and Kyler has always rebuffed him

Ah. Yeah makes sense.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Now that it's over and I'm calm again.

The Cards really need to send a list to the NFL of missed calls in this game.

1) the spot on the completion to D Hop. Live I thought he not only got the first down I think he might have been a yard past it. They spotted him a yard short you could see Hop immediately react when he saw where they put the ball. Not long after that Marvin Jones Jr got a catch and a first down they spotted him short too?

2) the first pick by Murphy, great play but how do they NOT call tripping on the Jags receiver who laying on his back stuck both legs up and tripped Murphy? Live I thought was just momentum after losing the ball but he clearly did it on purpose.

3) on the big boxout catch by AJ everyone on the game thread said the same thing it was blatant PI, would they have called it if AJ doesn't make the catch?

The calls didn't go the Cardinals way, but they also didn't play well.

That's why it was nice to see the Cardinals just go out and win.

 

[GatorAZ]

Kliff has chased Kyler for several opportunities and Kyler has always rebuffed him

You think the best player in the country was ever considering Lubbock?

 

[football karma]

Cards could easily be 1-2, instead of 3-0

not sure how you got there

i understand 2-1, but they beat the Jags by two scores.

 

[az jam]

I actually thought the Jaguars defense played very well. It was the turnovers that really hurt them. They are going to win some games, I'm just glad the first was not against us.

 

[ajcardfan]

In the bad old days, almost every Cards team I can remember would've folded at 19-10 and that interception. I don't care who we were playing. Instead this team got a stop, and then BAM..... we have a TD drive following the INT and defense outscores the Jags offense 7-0.

At LEAST these guys have some fight and character in the face of adversity.

 

[Krangodnzr]

In the bad old days, almost every Cards team I can remember would've folded at 19-10 and that interception. I don't care who we were playing. Instead this team got a stop, and then BAM..... we have a TD drive following the INT and defense outscores the Jags offense 7-0.

At LEAST these guys have some fight and character in the face of adversity.

I think the early struggles were more internal than external. They just weren't executing.

 

[AZfaninMN]

not sure how you got there

i understand 2-1, but they beat the Jags by two scores.

Don’t let logic come in the way of a good rant

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I also think without kyler running amok like last season we are seeing what many of us were arguing when we said we weren’t a good running team. Right now kyler isn’t running much. And voila! We aren’t a good running team.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Better to win ugly than lose.

Remember those days of being known as the best 5-11 team in the NFL? lol

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Did Andy Lee see something on the pass that was negated by the delay game?

Both gunners were left uncovered.

 

[JosiahLee]

Now that it's over and I'm calm again.

The Cards really need to send a list to the NFL of missed calls in this game.

1) the spot on the completion to D Hop. Live I thought he not only got the first down I think he might have been a yard past it. They spotted him a yard short you could see Hop immediately react when he saw where they put the ball. Not long after that Marvin Jones Jr got a catch and a first down they spotted him short too?

2) the first pick by Murphy, great play but how do they NOT call tripping on the Jags receiver who laying on his back stuck both legs up and tripped Murphy? Live I thought was just momentum after losing the ball but he clearly did it on purpose.

3) on the big boxout catch by AJ everyone on the game thread said the same thing it was blatant PI, would they have called it if AJ doesn't make the catch?

Thank you for bringing this up. D Hop definitely got the first down!

Not only that after running out of bounds on a completion he was pushed down by a sideline player, yet no unnecessary roughness penalty was called. However they called one on Simmons for simply making a tackle and then lifting up his arm after the tackle. It was such a tiktak call!

Then later when Kyler was rushing in the red zone he gets a face-mask penalty that they don’t call.

I was disappointed by the refs.

 

[Chopper0080]

A lot went against the Cardinals this game and they still won handily. That counts in this league. I never thought we were a real Super Bowl contender so I feel like we are on pace for that. Don't be shocked if we get handled by the Rams, but we will see. The pieces are there but the lack of identity and consistency aren't. Long ways to go and good teams grow over a season.

 

[Shaggy]

Not sure if this was talked about yet, but did anyone see the flag hit the ball on Moores muffed punt return in the 1st Qrt? Crazy timing on that one.

The white line on the ball in the 3rd pic is the flag that hit it perfectly. (My feeble attempt to pause it and take it pic off my tv)..

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not sure if this was talked about yet, but did anyone see the flag hit the ball on Moores muffed punt return in the 1st Qrt? Crazy timing on that one.

The white line on the ball in the 3rd pic is the flag that hit it perfectly. (My feeble attempt to pause it and take it pic off my tv)..

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It was discussed in the game thread.

 

[BritCard]

We have brought out the inflatable victory cigar for the night

It somehow looks even worse outside

 

[BritCard]

For a whole half of the game and part of Q3 we made the Jaguars look like a decent team, when they are garbage as we saw in the 2nd half.

That's hard to forgive, especially when you see you have a tough slate of games coming up. We made the Jags look good with some weird play calling and bad coaching decisions. 66 yard FG aside the plays called by Kliff were just poor. Felt like 2019 Kliff with lots of quick 5 yard passes as if we were up against the Bucs D line. I don;t know how much of it was Kliff or Kyler but Kyler also looked impatient and was bugging out of clean pockets again and not letting plays develop. I imagine when the all 22 is out there were a lot of yards left on the field in the first half.

The game was really handed to us with the dumb pick 6. It was good pressure from Watt and well played by Murphy but no other team is calling that play in that situation. After that we had all the momentum and saw it out, but it's hard to have confidence in a team making so many mistakes on the field with coaches making bad calls off it.

The only bright spot is that I think Zach Allen played a lot less so at least the coaches see he's sucked. The downside is that the D line wasn't really any better.

We are all expecting a good reaming next week right?