This is why one of the most crucial aspects of QB play are knowing the play you're running, reading the defense and adjusting your reads accordingly.
And that just isn't happening at all.
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This is why one of the most crucial aspects of QB play are knowing the play you're running, reading the defense and adjusting your reads accordingly.
And that just isn't happening at all.
So you’re using the same analytics I am and coming out with a different outcome? Like I said I’m my last post I don’t think they’ve posted the advanced stats to our game Sunday because they have 0 bad passes(I can name one across the middle to Hollywood), 0 drops(Moore had 2), wasn’t blitzed the entire game yesterday(Seattle got a safety sack on one) and others.
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Or we can’t rule out that Kyler is just uncoachable as has been a suggestion. It’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility at all.
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AGain I get that but if that were true and everyone in the Cards organization knew that, why in the hell did we give him that extension? And now that we did are we actually going to move on from him and keep Kliff? I think the answer is obviously no.
But who knows it's the Cardinal way clearly they thought Kyler didn't do enough homework maybe they did think he was uncoachable and yet decided to give him the money anyways. If they did, they are stupid.
Pretty sure pressures etc is done as it's already gone up since yesterday
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Brit:
i am assuming the Eagles game had lots of similar plays (not asking you for more homework)
yes?
i am assuming the Eagles game had lots of similar plays (not asking you for more homework)
yes?
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The only hope going forward is an OC or QB coach between Kliff and Kyler IMO.
But the way the organization has kowtowed to Murray at every turn, from surrendering to his demand for a contract extension to acquiring Rondale Moore and Hollywood Brown, he would most likely have veto power, if not end up actually hand picking the guy himself.
But the way the organization has kowtowed to Murray at every turn, from surrendering to his demand for a contract extension to acquiring Rondale Moore and Hollywood Brown, he would most likely have veto power, if not end up actually hand picking the guy himself.
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I don't recall, I don't think, hardly ever seeing him on the sidelines talking to coaches and going over pictures, etc, that they always show other qb's doing. Maybe he does, and they just don't show it?
They need to get a coach over there and show him what he should have done/or where he should have thrown it. Show him his mistakes, so he learns from them. Or, maybe he's just not smart enough. He doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes. He succeeds (when he does) because of his athletic ability, not because he is very smart.
They need to get a coach over there and show him what he should have done/or where he should have thrown it. Show him his mistakes, so he learns from them. Or, maybe he's just not smart enough. He doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes. He succeeds (when he does) because of his athletic ability, not because he is very smart.
When Kyler took himself out of that playoff game a responsible team owner would have made a mental note to not pay him a ton of money before another year of play. You do not reward that kind of immaturity. Then came the scrubbing of social media, the agent demand letter, and so many other warning signs. Ridiculous. Those are just the things we have seen publicly. Imagine what a wreck it is behind the scenes.
I watched a bunch of random drives and key downs last week and yes it's basically exactly the same thing.
Fitz has already been gone for 2 years. Just saying that Fitz may not have had much confidence in him. I don't think his offense is groundbreaking or even very imaginative most of the time. Rather boring really. Not the "air raid" we were promised.
It was pretty exciting through 12 games last year.
Offenses are more exciting when your QB is playing well.
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my suggestion:
Mike B needs to take the VR gear that Carson Palmer used so much, but then turn the players into Madden-like players and when Kyler throws it to the right read, coins pop out like Mario.
problem solved
Mike B needs to take the VR gear that Carson Palmer used so much, but then turn the players into Madden-like players and when Kyler throws it to the right read, coins pop out like Mario.
problem solved
It’s easy to fall in love with physical ability and overlook other things.
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This happens all the time. Cam Turner is the guy sitting next to Kyler after drives most of the time.
This is hilarious
They're playing Mario Kart though
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I'm like 80% sure that Tom Clements was supposed to fill the role that people are describing and he noped out and retired after one season. It's not like he has a hard time dealing with weird quarterbacks; he worked with Aaron Rodgers.
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Minecraft, MTL.
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I do agree that Kyler is only part of a large organisation/system with many moving parts however I would like him to take a little more ownership over his sphere.
Even on Sunday with all other things being equal a couple of passes that were fractionally behind the receiver cost us a couple of first downs
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None of these game management issues are nearly as important as the ordinary plays.
Execute ordinary plays excellently, and you'll win most games. These higher leverage situations are happening BECAUSE of Murray. The regularly play calls are doing the job.
Right now I'm more concerned at the many stalled drives, much more so than those gaffes.
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His offense is much more exciting with a QB who executes the plays.
The Rams have a boring offense. Yes it works, but it's a bunch of misdirection.
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There’s nothing boring about the Rams offense.
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First, I’ve been criticizing Murray almost from the day he arrived. The following is not an attempt to absolve him of responsibility. However I still believe accountability starts with the coach. Murray doesn’t use progressions (very bad), but I’d expect the primary target to be open more often if the play design didn‘t tip the target or involved more complex motion. The examples in this thread need to be shown to Murray on a tablet, like many teams do. Murray should not be allowed to just sit on the bench feeling sorry for himself. The entire offense should view the game tapes together, including Murray. Murray should politely be asked to explain his decisions. Until the coach has the intestinal fortitude to hold Murray publicly accountable, I don’t expect things to change.
