Cardinals v Chargers game thread

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None of those qualities I described are affected by the level of competition that you are playing against.

Of course it is!

It's much easier to look elite when you're going after scrubs who aren't much better than collegiate competition.

I'm a fan of Williams too, but not to the point where facts about the RB situation are distorted. Even if he was healthy, he'd initially struggle against elite defenses. Took Beanie part of 2009 to get it and when he did, he averaged 4.6 ypc. And last week, Beanie did well against a great Green Bay defense.
 

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Of course it is!

It's much easier to look elite when you're going after scrubs who aren't much better than collegiate competition.

I'm a fan of Williams too, but not to the point where facts about the RB situation are distorted. Even if he was healthy, he'd initially struggle against elite defenses. Took Beanie part of 2009 to get it and when he did, he averaged 4.6 ypc. And last week, Beanie did well against a great Green Bay defense.

Change of direction, burst, vision, and the ability to catch the ball out of the backfield are not determined by your level of competition. You change direction the same against scrubs as you do against great players. Same goes for vision, burst, and catching the ball. These are some of the reasons that running backs are easier to evaluate.
 

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Now that is the Cardinals 4th qtr. D we've all come to love over the years...I know it's pre-season, but::bang::bang:
 
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Marshay Green has been very disappointing the last two games. I don't think he's long for Arizona.
 
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I thought he looked good last year, but seems to have regressed since.

I agree. And at his size he can't afford that. Speaking of DBs I'd really like to know what the point is of lining up 10 yards off the WR and then letting the guy just run right by you.

Happens all the time.
 

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I thought he looked good last year, but seems to have regressed since.
He looked a lot better when we were comparing him to the Trumaine McBrides of the league. I don't think he has a place in a solid secondary.

Speaking of the secondary, I hope Toler is ok.
 

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Very typical and disheartening.

You were disheartened that a bunch of scrubs who wont make their team drove down and scored on a bunch of guys who wont make our team?

None of it matters at all, but our 1s beat their 1s in the first half and thats the only thing of significance that happened in this game.

San Fran went 4-0 last year in preseason. The Colts went 0-4. It doesn't mean jack squat.

The game was a blast, the crowd was great (even for a preseason game) and our offense got going in a big way. Final score doesn't matter, I already forgot what it was.... Who won? ;)
 
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He looked a lot better when we were comparing him to the Trumaine McBrides of the league. I don't think he has a place in a solid secondary.

Not really, he was covering the same quality Wide Receivers in 2010. Green did a much better job in coverage last year. And he did especially well in press coverage. I don't know that maybe he tried to get bigger and lost some quickness. Just doesn't seem to be the same player.
 

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Overall 1's vs 1's I am happy with what I saw tonight.
 

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Overall 1's vs 1's I am happy with what I saw tonight.

Yes. I would like to see better play from the offensive tackles and more pressure on the QB, but I have a feeling that I will be feeling that way most of the year.
 

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Just got back.

Happy about the game despite the final score.

Hate to lose at home even if they don't count.

Note to Chargers' fans - this was a preseason game and not a Super Bowl. Wow. We were near some Bolts' fans that were pretty quiet the entire game, but started to get vocal with the mishandled hand-off TD and then after the final TD. Suddenly the Chargers are awesome and the Cards suck. One guy kept saying "Get used to that!" Uh. :doi: Idiot.
 

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