Cards get Adrian Peterson in trade with New Orleans

[Snakester]

I'm looking forward to having AP back up DJ. AP is still a good running back plus I hope we bring back Kerwynn Williams as well to go along with Logan.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Darren Urban wrote a blog today about it---he also predicts we are not going to get the conditional 7th round pick from the Raven for G Tony Bergstrom (who only lasted there 6 weeks). We traded away the 4th (Bears), the 6th (AP) and 7th (Cooper).

These are the scenarios that have yet to be determined by NFL. Looks like they officially released comp picks Feb 24th last year.

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[BigRedRage]

True, but still I good combo between Peterson and Johnson if you ask me. The only issue I see is the money. Would the cards want to pay close to $3 mill for Peterson?

if DJ is fully healthy, AP will be sulking on the sidelines about his lack of carries.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Do you crybabies not remember that we got AP before Carson was hurt? Seriously some of your crap-on-the-front-office antics are getting beyond pathetic. The team was in win now mode and thank god they were. If I wanted to root for a team that blew things up as much as some of you want I would move to Cleveland. It was absolutely the right move at the time for what the team was trying to accomplish. This negative hindsight ******** e very time a move doesn't work just makes some of you absolutely unbearable sometimes.

Do you idiots (you started the name calling, dropping to your level) remember that some of us called this VERY scenario (winning enough games against bad teams to deny us high enough draft pick for a qb but not enough with me for playoffs . . . um 8-8) EARLY in the season when is realists recognized we were bad (not “hindsight” as you claim). Your argument is childish and WRONG. And the fact that you name call and wrongly present our arguments (ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE RIGHT!) makes you not only wrong but unbearable sometimes.

 

[Southpaw]

In a reload he must go.

 

[Chopper0080]

True, but still I good combo between Peterson and Johnson if you ask me. The only issue I see is the money. Would the cards want to pay close to $3 mill for Peterson?

Because he is an old, limited player who got traded from Now Orleans because he wasn't happy with a back up role. How is the situation he left going to be any different than the situation we will put him in next year?

 

[Chopper0080]

Nothing wrong with the trade, at all. When you lose the best RB in the NFL during the first game of the season, and then have literally the worst running attack in the NFL, you have to do something to increase production. Giving up a 6th round pick for Peterson is hardly a terrible decision, even considering he had to go on IR.

That lost 6th round pick will be forgotten when we get our compensatory picks and still have 8-9 picks in this draft.

Keep in mind that we traded the pick, and per the Urban article, he also is going to cost us a comp pick because New Orleans signed him as a free agent.

 

[Shaggy]

It’s not hindsight when you call the trade dumb at the time it happened.

Several people said they were wrong about the AP trade after his first game when he went 100+ yards and 2 TDs.

 

[Shaggy]

Because he is an old, limited player who got traded from Now Orleans because he wasn't happy with a back up role. How is the situation he left going to be any different than the situation we will put him in next year?

Cause he ended up being behind not one, but 2 RBs. Could be different here.

 

[Chopper0080]

Cause he ended up being behind not one, but 2 RBs. Could be different here.

He was signed behind one RB (Ingram), and then he got beat out by another RB (Kamara). What do we think happens when AP is behind David Johnson, and then competes with a younger and more versatile back in TJ Logan?

There is no reason to pay a running back who can't catch or pass block 2.6 mil when you can draft a guy for dirt cheap or sign a vet for the min. We made the trade because both TJ Logan and David Johnson were lost for the season. If they are coming back, the reason for acquiring and holding onto Peterson is gone.

 

[Cheesebeef]

if DJ is fully healthy, AP will be sulking on the sidelines about his lack of carries.

agreed.

The best back in football, Kerwynn and Logan are a good enough trio considering how much else this team needs and 2.8 million of AP's dollars can go to filling those needs.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Several people said they were wrong about the AP trade after his first game when he went 100+ yards and 2 TDs.

and then they were proven right when he became the injured one-trick pony he has been for two years four weeks later.

 

[ARZCardinals]

He was signed behind one RB (Ingram), and then he got beat out by another RB (Kamara). What do we think happens when AP is behind David Johnson, and then competes with a younger and more versatile back in TJ Logan?

There is no reason to pay a running back who can't catch or pass block 2.6 mil when you can draft a guy for dirt cheap or sign a vet for the min. We made the trade because both TJ Logan and David Johnson were lost for the season. If they are coming back, the reason for acquiring and holding onto Peterson is gone.

Peterson singlehandedly won 2 games for AZ.
He’s got the goods

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yes, I'm a big Adrian Peterson supporter given our situation when we signed him, but I do not see how he would handle being second string to DJ (which he should be, AP is still good in spurts but DJ is great in his prime) and for once I would like the Cardinals to respect and reward Kerwynn Williams. That kid produced with busted ribs for a pretty good stretch and has earned the back up role to DJ in my opinion. I do not think Cardinal fans have given that tough little guy who shows up big his proper due. He quietly (though he is a feisty trash talker on the field) put in one of the guttiest performances I ever saw from a Cardinal

 

[WisconsinCard]

You mean that ill-fated 'win now' mode decision that set us back a season?

How did that set us back a season?

:gooutandgetoneofthesecrystalballs:

 

[WisconsinCard]

It’s not hindsight when you call the trade dumb at the time it happened.

But then came back and said how wrong you were, and how happy you were to eat crow. I guess if you go both ways on an issues your only wrong 50% of the time.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Do you idiots (you started the name calling, dropping to your level) remember that some of us called this VERY scenario (winning enough games against bad teams to deny us high enough draft pick for a qb but not enough with me for playoffs . . . um 8-8) EARLY in the season when is realists recognized we were bad (not “hindsight” as you claim). Your argument is childish and WRONG. And the fact that you name call and wrongly present our arguments (ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE RIGHT!) makes you not only wrong but unbearable sometimes.

Go ask BA if those wins were bad. Go ask Michael Bidwill if he would have rather lost those two games. I get your point, but to say it cost us this or that is flat out wrong, and to say that you're" right" is really wrong. Nobody will ever know if it costs anything because it didn't happen. It could have just as easily have benefitted us. If we draft a QB this year at 15 or round 2 or whenever and he turns out to be the next Brady, then those wins saved us from drafting maybe another Jamarcus Russell. Who knows...Nobody!

 

[Stout]

How did that set us back a season?

:gooutandgetoneofthesecrystalballs:

Many of us criticized the FO for the half-baked 'one last shot' notion because it put things off a season: ignoring QBOF, bulking the roster with costly, aging vets instead of beginning to retool the roster with younger talent, etc.

 

[oaken1]

Do you idiots (you started the name calling, dropping to your level) remember that some of us called this VERY scenario (winning enough games against bad teams to deny us high enough draft pick for a qb but not enough with me for playoffs . . . um 8-8) EARLY in the season when is realists recognized we were bad (not “hindsight” as you claim). Your argument is childish and WRONG. And the fact that you name call and wrongly present our arguments (ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE RIGHT!) makes you not only wrong but unbearable sometimes.

yup... I was on the slam for Sam bandwagon by week three last season, lol.... many others didnt want to tank for darnold... but really wanted to tank for somebody... lots of us are tired of meaningless wins that just **** block our drafts

 

[WisconsinCard]

yup... I was on the slam for Sam bandwagon by week three last season, lol.... many others didnt want to tank for darnold... but really wanted to tank for somebody... lots of us are tired of meaningless wins that just **** block our drafts

NO such thing as a meaningless win...IMO

 

[WisconsinCard]

Many of us criticized the FO for the half-baked 'one last shot' notion because it put things off a season: ignoring QBOF, bulking the roster with costly, aging vets instead of beginning to retool the roster with younger talent, etc.

That one trade for a 6th round pick did all that? I think not, it was a culmination of five years that pulled all of that off, and to say "many of us" means nothing, as there were just as many that liked it. No one is right and no one is wrong, it's their belief. I am of the opinion you play to win, who cares about the draft, some say it cost us a chance at a QBOTF. What happens is we sign a young QB in free agency then we are not going to draft a QBOTF in the first round. Who knows what will happen, so I live for the moment as if it were my last.

 

[oaken1]

NO such thing as a meaningless win...IMO

and thats exactly what I "feel" every time they win a game that wont get us into the playoffs.

but if you look at the Cards history, and see all those garbage time wins, then look at who we missed in the draft because we won a couple more games...it is shameful.

of course, we also had some good picks and just picked the wrong dude too....so whatever, lol... maybe it wouldnt matter if we were picking third...maybe Keim would have picked the tenth best QB at #3 anyway.

 

[WisconsinCard]

and thats exactly what I "feel" every time they win a game that wont get us into the playoffs.

but if you look at the Cards history, and see all those garbage time wins, then look at who we missed in the draft because we won a couple more games...it is shameful.

of course, we also had some good picks and just picked the wrong dude too....so whatever, lol... maybe it wouldnt matter if we were picking third...maybe Keim would have picked the tenth best QB at #3 anyway.

My point exactly, it a crap shoot. You never know who your picking and if they'll be good. Just because there was good people there if we didn't win one game doesn't mean we would have taken him. People often say the Vikings win cost us Eli, but Deny said he was taking Fitz even number 1 if he had to. So would you trade Eli for Fitz? I don't think I would, no guarantee he is the Eli that won 2 superbowls if he comes to AZ. Our luck says he would have blew out his knee first year at OTA's and never been the same...

 

[oaken1]

My point exactly, it a crap shoot. You never know who your picking and if they'll be good. Just because there was good people there if we didn't win one game doesn't mean we would have taken him. People often say the Vikings win cost us Eli, but Deny said he was taking Fitz even number 1 if he had to. So would you trade Eli for Fitz? I don't think I would, no guarantee he is the Eli that won 2 superbowls if he comes to AZ. Our luck says he would have blew out his knee first year at OTA's and never been the same...

no way would I trade Fitz for Eli.... Eli wasnt even the best QB in that draft class... Fitz is a sure fire first ballot hall of fame player... Eli won two super bowls because the Giants know how to build a defense and a running game,..and sadly, he will probably get in to canton also, but it will just be because he played on the NY Giants when they won a couple super bowls
Eli has never in his life played a stretch like Fitz did in our super bowl run

hell, we passed on Aaron Rodgers for Antrelle Rolle... Rolle wasnt a bad pick...at least I remember Rolle...dont remember who our QB was though, lol.

 

[Jetstream Green]

no way would I trade Fitz for Eli.... Eli wasnt even the best QB in that draft class... Fitz is a sure fire first ballot hall of fame player... Eli won two super bowls because the Giants know how to build a defense and a running game,..and sadly, he will probably get in to canton also, but it will just be because he played on the NY Giants when they won a couple super bowls
Eli has never in his life played a stretch like Fitz did in our super bowl run

hell, we passed on Aaron Rodgers for Antrelle Rolle... Rolle wasnt a bad pick...at least I remember Rolle...dont remember who our QB was though, lol.

Palmer before he retired was lacking but still a much better QB than Eli is now. Eli reminds me of Bradshaw, never wowed me but made key plays when it counted and for that he deserves some respect and he deserves to be called a winner but judging his play of late, Eli needs to retire because in my opinion Alex Smith would be better currently which says a lot... I would not trade him for Fitzgerald who is still productive and a game changer