You're to smart for this. Wr's drops hurt the most. Right another 100 page BS on soft players and leave the NFL WR's out of it and blame the wrong players.
Cards get Adrian Peterson in trade with New Orleans
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You're to smart for this. Wr's drops hurt the most. Right another 100 page BS on soft players and leave the NFL WR's out of it and blame the wrong players.
TJ
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If it was "instantly" flipped, wouldn't they have scored on the ensuing drive?
82CardsGrad
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D, that’s one play... How many times did Stanton miss a wide open receiver? And how many times did wide open WR’s drop a pass... And are you really gonna make me bring up that pathetic Bethea flop on the Baldwin catch?? Ugh...
82, Dammit I woke up feeling the opposite for the first time all year! Actually thought we would get this one for some delusional reason. Hawk hate blinded me I guess
NJCardFan
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21 carries 29 yards. He got the carries tonight. He didn't get it done. Blame the line all you want but if you're going to blame the line tonight then don't give him all the credit for last week. Either he's responsible for the good and bad or none of it.
82CardsGrad
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Yea... not with Stanton at the helm. All my Hag hate and Cards love couldn’t get me past that... [emoji30]
No, no, I actually referred to the old man Bethea flop in another thread. What's Even worse was expecting the athletic prowess of Honeyless Badger and C Jones to actually pose a threat to Wilson outside the pocket lol
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
AD certainly didn't have a good game, but I'm not buying that his fumble set the tone for the entire game. If Bethea doesn't slip on that garbage Wilson play and/or receivers catch the few Drew Stanton catchable balls, we are likely posting in disbelief as to how we won the game.
82CardsGrad
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How many yards do you think DJ would’ve had last Sunday? And how many do you think he would’ve had tonight?
82CardsGrad
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Oh man... I️ mentioned that 100x tonight to my buddies. I️ mean, not only did Badger not bring him down, he didn’t even get a finger on him!! Same for Jones of course, but it’s fair for us to expect Badger to be quicker than Jones and at least get a hand on Wilson!
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Cool. Your take is still misguided. If Seattle scores, you may actually have an argument, but the defense held up and the Cards were in striking distance all game despite several other factors, which I already explained, getting in the way. Adrian's fumble with 54 minutes left in the game was not the determining factor and most definitely did not set the tone.
pmacLean
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Can AP still run ? Yes, ... If the line gives him somewhere to run. I maintain, that his 2 big games, you could see the holes the line gave him and if CJ2K was there, he would have flown through those holes just like AP did, and please, spare me the "bruising" runner ********.
All the dreamers that thought, "yeah, we have AP, let's pound the rock"... sorry, but you need at least some kind of space to run/slide through. Our sorry line never gave that to CJ2K and now they are not giving it to AP.
2 of the best runners in a generation and they are both going to be remembered as 'Unable to make the difference needed" on a sad sack team that NO runner in history could be successful on.
How sad.
All the dreamers that thought, "yeah, we have AP, let's pound the rock"... sorry, but you need at least some kind of space to run/slide through. Our sorry line never gave that to CJ2K and now they are not giving it to AP.
2 of the best runners in a generation and they are both going to be remembered as 'Unable to make the difference needed" on a sad sack team that NO runner in history could be successful on.
How sad.
NJCardFan
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I'm just trying to inject reality. AP has monster games against bad teams and everyone is cheering like we've finally got our man but then the next game, he's less than pedestrian. How would a healthy DJ have done? I don't know. All I know is that last season he gained over 200 yards against a much healthier Seattle defense with basically the same offensive line. And tonight, AP couldn't average 2 yards a carry. Is it all him? No but it wasn't all him last game either. Last week everyone gave him 100% of the credit and tonight he's almost 100% blameless, at least that's how it's coming across.
Jetstream Green
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Not exactly right, Peterson has been getting yards because with this line you have to get past the first tackle because there are no holes and CJ did not have the power to get through the first tackle and find a transitional hole. Cj has to have a hole first and not AP but Seattle deserves credit because that was one of the best tackling exhibitions I have seen this season. What really stood out to me was when Peterson had the edge on a run to the right and most cornerbacks would have not made the tackle but Sherman came up and was solid. It is not just that the Cardinal OL was sub par, Peterson has shown he can function blasting through the first tackler, but the Rams and Seahawks do not give up that first contract like other teams in my opinion
GatorAZ
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Prime AP breaks some of those Bobby Wagner arm tackles and gets to the second level. Keep in mind the respect Seattle had for our passing game tonight is the same respect defenses had for Tavaris Jackson when AP was breaking rookie records. Kurt could've played until 40 like Brady had we drafted him.
It was the first offensive possession, first rushing attempt, all inside Seahawks territory. How in the world did it not set the tone? We only had similar field position to start a drive once more in the entire game which resulted in another punt.
82CardsGrad
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FWIW, I️ am not comparing the 2017 version of AP to DJ. My point was that even DJ would’ve struggled tonight and would’ve been a non-factor on the ground.
AP is still a very capable RB. But only if the oline can function properly... which, against decent teams this line can’t...
NJCardFan
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I disagree. This team still would have found a way to lose it. It's just the nature of the 2017 Cardinals. Did AP's fumble hurt? Nope. Didn't help either. Just knowing the ineptness of Stanton tells me that even if AP doesn't fumble, Stanton would have overthrown the next pass then flipped off the next pass on a screen that goes for 4 yards when we needed 5 or 6. This team exuded so much stupid tonight that no matter how hard we tried, we simply were not going to win this game. The Bethea flop was just a microcosm of the entire game if not the entire season.
Jetstream Green
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What we missed today was DJ being a great receiver out of the backfield... both Peterson and Ellington have shown they cannot, whether it's Peterson having bad hands to complete the catch of Ellington hearing footsteps and scanning where he can go out lol
The deep pass thru JJ's hands was more of a deal breaker than the fumble. He catches that it's a TD & gives the Cards momentum. ''Old man Bethea'' slipped. It happens in the NFL. People are acting because he's older he's feeble & can barely stand. How many players slip on a weekly basis? That's just looking for excuses. No one was calling him Old man Bethea when he got the sack. Smh.
Joel A. Erickson
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Mickey Loomis confirmed that Saints get the pick they received in Adrian Peterson trade. Pick was reported as a conditional sixth-rounder
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Mickey Loomis confirmed that Saints get the pick they received in Adrian Peterson trade. Pick was reported as a conditional sixth-rounder
JeffGollin
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I'm assuming we signed AP for 2 years or more to justify the conditional pick. Not to re-sign AP would be to throw away the value of the #6. I hope we keep AP to provide quality depth alongside or in back of DJ.
This would jibe with Wilks' comment about building the offense around a strong running attack.
Harry
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He was already on a two year contract.
