Cards make Q trade an option

[Skkorpion]

The real reason Rod Graves shaves his head is so he doesn't get lice from Rosenhaus.

 

[AzWins23]

Trade Dansby!!!

 

[Buckybird]

The real reason Rod Graves shaves his head is so he doesn't get lice from Rosenhaus.

 

[binkar]

Whileto some this move may seem insignificant.. but to me it is a GLARRING sign of the Cards raising the white flag on the Boldin negotiations...

The timing of this is pretty clear, remember, the Cards brass met with Rosenhaus yesterday, and clearly the meeting must have given the team some sort of information that resigning Boldin is a long shot at best.

With the Draft day trade theme, I am startig to think the Cardinals may have their eye on multiple individuals in the draft and assuming things fall they way they expect, they will more than likely have a trade partner (or 2) on speed dial.

I do think this is TRUELY th beginning of the end of the Boldin era, the Cards just need to make sure if they trade him to an NFC contender, it is a MINIMUM of a 1st and a 2nd... anything short of that would be a failure IMO...

Not saying a deal is imminent, but I think the odds of Boldin being a Card next year have GREATLY diminished...

I agree in a sense. I think the Cardinals obviously will have there eye on couple of players specifically and will only make the trade if they are assured they will get their guys. Also, a Roy Williams deal has to be the minimum like every has said. It will definitely be an interesting next week and a half.

 

[Ryanwb]

Q is only a distraction to you and fans. Not the team or it players.

This is pretty dead on from what I have heard in professional sports circles. Guys tend to look at other guy's contract issues as their business and leave it at that. However I'm not sure how they feel when the player airs it out in the media, but not's not the case here so it's moot.

 

[Stout]

I'd say at least a high 1st and a 3rd. If the 1st is lower (listen up, Eagles fans), then you MUST sweeten the deal. Otherwise, no dice, because he's under contract for two years yet. We DO hold all the cards in this situation (pun intended).

 

[Shane]

I'd say at least a high 1st and a 3rd. If the 1st is lower (listen up, Eagles fans), then you MUST sweeten the deal. Otherwise, no dice, because he's under contract for two years yet. We DO hold all the cards in this situation (pun intended).

Right on buddy!

 

[82CardsGrad]

He played hard last year for money he felt was way too low.

Cool... let's build a statue for the man and place it out front...

 

[joeshmo]

I think this is a Q market check as much as anything --

meaning-- I am presuming from this announcement that Drew now has permission to talk to figure what other team might offer contract wise in a trade scenario

Jurecki talked with Boldin and Drew this morning and they are not allowed to talk with other teams yet.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Bet ya 18225 asfn.

Bet you 10K he is traded to some team. Deal?

 

[joeshmo]

The timing of this is pretty clear, remember, the Cards brass met with Rosenhaus yesterday, and clearly the meeting must have given the team some sort of information that resigning Boldin is a long shot at best.

According to either the Urban or he Somers article forget which one, it states that the recent meeting with Drew, nothing was discussed about Boldin, and it was presumed it was about one of his other clients - Edge, Watson, Rolle, Dockett and so on.

 

[Shane]

Bet you 10K he is traded to some team. Deal?

Done. Ill put up 1 million vs. your 10k.

 

[sportznutt]

Boldin is considered a No. 1 wide receiver so it could cost a No. 1 and No. 3 draft choice to acquire him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4071716

 

[Arizona's Finest]

To people who don't think this isn't SERIOUSLY being entertained and even likely at this point.

What could POSSIBLY be the motivation behind stating this publicly?

To state the obvious? To alienate Q? To let teams know he is available when they could have done that quietly? To draw a line in the sand? To lessen his value?

It just makes no sense. Right now the FO is telling us fans - "If we get the right deal - he is gone." and if it was even legitmate that they REALLY wanted to get a deal done - why are they not starting discussions and getting serious when the draft is a couple weeks away?

IMO they already talked this out at the end of the season and there is a handshake deal in place to send him to another team. Its a guess on my part but an educated guess.

We will see what happens.

 

[joeshmo]

This is the first repercussion of the club not being able to re-sign Dansby. The club needs cap room and maneuverability...and they aren't going to get it from Dansby...which is the freeking fly in the ointment.

Not really. Boldin wouldn't exactly be a big cap savings boom, 1.75 mill to be exact. Especially when you factor in money it would take to sign another 1st and 3rd rounder. Total savings would be about 750k.

 

[joeshmo]

uhoh! I don't want 81 to go, and now, for the first time its for real to me that he might, and if so we need to get what the Cowpies paid to make it worthwhile. Roy Williams will never have 3 NFL records let alone 3 in 6 years...Why can't we trade Dansby instead?

Depending on where the 1st and 3rd are at that should be pretty much it. Remember the deal for Williams was -

Roy plus a 7th for a 1,3 and 6.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Not really. Boldin wouldn't exactly be a big cap savings boom, 1.75 mill to be exact. Especially when you factor in money it would take to sign another 1st and 3rd rounder. Total savings would be about 750k.

You're right Joe... But isn't this at the core, a situation where the Cards need to make a choice... invest in Dansby or Q?
I really don't see the Cards doing long-term deals with both, and now making this public statement regarding Q, it seems to me the Cards are leaning heavily in the direction of Dansby...

 

[ajcardfan]

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/11604148

In this article Boldin says his preference is to stay here. This actually makes me think he is on board with all of this and is trying to help the team move him. It's a complete 180 from what he was saying two months ago.

I've been convinced the Cards had zero interest in trading Boldin. Now, I do think it can happen. I don't think they will trade him no matter what though.

 

[Shane]

To people who don't think this isn't SERIOUSLY being entertained and even likely at this point.

What could POSSIBLY be the motivation behind stating this publicly?

To state the obvious? To alienate Q? To let teams know he is available when they could have done that quietly? To draw a line in the sand? To lessen his value?

It just makes no sense. Right now the FO is telling us fans - "If we get the right deal - he is gone." and if it was even legitmate that they REALLY wanted to get a deal done - why are they not starting discussions and getting serious when the draft is a couple weeks away?

IMO they already talked this out at the end of the season and there is a handshake deal in place to send him to another team. Its a guess on my part but an educated guess.

We will see what happens.

Graves and Whisenhunt both over the years ESPECIALLY Graves doesnt mince words. He means what he says and doesnt play games in the media.

If he said that the reason they are letting this out is so Q isnt surprised by the media saying something like "The Cards are shopping Anquan" Then you better bet I believe him. They would be stupid not to entertain offers that are coming in. But at the same token they arent actively making phone calls trying to trade him either. So they want it on record their position. Who better to put that out there than Urban?

They dont want to piss Q off anymore than they already have in the event he stays. JMHO.

 

[joeshmo]

But isn't this at the core, a situation where the Cards need to make a choice... invest in Dansby or Q?

I think you can expand that to say Dansby and/or Wilson or Q.

So beyond the cap implications I would agree with your thoughts.

I said it months ago. We can sign all 3 in terms of cap space but we cannot sign all 3 in terms of player salary budget. No way in heck we would sign Warner, other FA's, and then turn around and deal out 60+mill in up front money to all three of those players. We would have to pick our poison if you will.

 

[Shane]

I don't think they will trade him ...ome large to budge graves. Doubt anyone will.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think you can expand that to say Dansby and/or Wilson or Q.

So beyond the cap implications I would agree with your thoughts.

Yup...

 

[ajcardfan]

I think you can expand that to say Dansby and/or Wilson or Q.

So beyond the cap implications I would agree with your thoughts.

You guys are neglecting the option of not extending Boldin this offseason and forcing him to play another year of his deal. I still think that is more likely than an extension if a trade does not occur.

 

[82CardsGrad]

You guys are neglecting the option of not extending Boldin this offseason and forcing him to play another year of his deal. I still think that is more likely than an extension if a trade does not occur.

And then what? Trade him next year when he only has 1 year left on his agreement? Why is that better for the Cards??

 

[Shane]

And then what? Trade him next year when he only has 1 year left on his agreement? Why is that better for the Cards??

If you have to. There is no urgency to trade him. We dont even have to trade him then considering he would again be under contract. The longer he waits the older he gets thus the less oney he gets. Its within his best interest to get a reasonable deal from us if he can/isnt traded.