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How about from the horse's mouth?
"It looks like it will happen," Green said. ""All that's left is to dot the I's and to cross the T's. It's an exciting opportunity."
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How about from the horse's mouth?
"It looks like it will happen," Green said. ""All that's left is to dot the I's and to cross the T's. It's an exciting opportunity."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1702776
Wednesday, January 7, 2004
ESPN.com news services
The Arizona Cardinals and Dennis Green have reached an agreement in principle to make him the Cardinals' next head coach, ESPN.com has learned.
Green, who spent 10 seasons as the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, will receive a four-year deal worth almost $11 million.
Team attorneys and Green's agent spent much of Wednesday exchanging faxes and the contractual language should be completed by Wednesday night.
"It looks like it will happen," Green said. ""All that's left is to dot the I's and to cross the T's. It's an exciting opportunity."
As reported by ESPN.com on Tuesday, Green and Cardinals officials met in San Diego for a follow-up interview after first meeting last Wednesday at the team's complex. A few hours later, after team officials returned to Phoenix to brief owner Bill Bidwill, the Cardinals made Green an offer.
Both parties were interested in striking a deal that would end Green's two-year absence from the league (he's been an ESPN studio analyst the last two years). Green has had the support, from the outset of the courtship, of Arizona's vice president of football operations Rod Graves. He then gained favor with vice president Michael Bidwill, the owner's son.
It is believed Green will have considerable control over football operations. Green also was interviewed by the Washington Redskins and Oakland Raiders, but the Redskins and Joe Gibbs have an agreement and sources close to Green said Tuesday night he believes the Raiders situation could be "treacherous," even given the coach's long and close relationship with owner Al Davis.
Said one source: "Denny really believes he can get that thing [in Arizona] turned around. If he can get himself a quarterback, and they'll be in position to draft somebody like [Eli] Manning, they could win in a couple years."
The Cardinals, who will move into a new stadium in two years, need a head coach with a track record of success to energize their pitifully small fan base.
Other candidates for the Arizona job were former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel, a one-time Cardinals offensive coordinator, and current NFL defensive coordinators Jim Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles and Romeo Crennel of the New England Patriots.
Sources said that, during Tuesday's interview with Green, the Cardinals asked him what they called "tough questions," including queries about past off-field incidents. Green is said to have been candid and, for the second time, very impressive in expressing to officials his on-field and personnel philosophies.
Green was 101-70 during his 10 seasons with the Vikings and went to the playoffs eight times.
Information from ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli and John Clayton was used in this report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1702776
Wednesday, January 7, 2004
ESPN.com news services
The Arizona Cardinals and Dennis Green have reached an agreement in principle to make him the Cardinals' next head coach, ESPN.com has learned.
Green, who spent 10 seasons as the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, will receive a four-year deal worth almost $11 million.
Team attorneys and Green's agent spent much of Wednesday exchanging faxes and the contractual language should be completed by Wednesday night.
"It looks like it will happen," Green said. ""All that's left is to dot the I's and to cross the T's. It's an exciting opportunity."
As reported by ESPN.com on Tuesday, Green and Cardinals officials met in San Diego for a follow-up interview after first meeting last Wednesday at the team's complex. A few hours later, after team officials returned to Phoenix to brief owner Bill Bidwill, the Cardinals made Green an offer.
Both parties were interested in striking a deal that would end Green's two-year absence from the league (he's been an ESPN studio analyst the last two years). Green has had the support, from the outset of the courtship, of Arizona's vice president of football operations Rod Graves. He then gained favor with vice president Michael Bidwill, the owner's son.
It is believed Green will have considerable control over football operations. Green also was interviewed by the Washington Redskins and Oakland Raiders, but the Redskins and Joe Gibbs have an agreement and sources close to Green said Tuesday night he believes the Raiders situation could be "treacherous," even given the coach's long and close relationship with owner Al Davis.
Said one source: "Denny really believes he can get that thing [in Arizona] turned around. If he can get himself a quarterback, and they'll be in position to draft somebody like [Eli] Manning, they could win in a couple years."
The Cardinals, who will move into a new stadium in two years, need a head coach with a track record of success to energize their pitifully small fan base.
Other candidates for the Arizona job were former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel, a one-time Cardinals offensive coordinator, and current NFL defensive coordinators Jim Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles and Romeo Crennel of the New England Patriots.
Sources said that, during Tuesday's interview with Green, the Cardinals asked him what they called "tough questions," including queries about past off-field incidents. Green is said to have been candid and, for the second time, very impressive in expressing to officials his on-field and personnel philosophies.
Green was 101-70 during his 10 seasons with the Vikings and went to the playoffs eight times.
Information from ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli and John Clayton was used in this report.
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If you were going for
X
then yes, it did work
you suck
Thanks for the words of encouragement smartass!
Now I know they are trying and that is all I hoped for. Next step--get a QB or draft smart what ever works best.
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Thanks for the words of encouragement smartass!
That's what we are here for
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With all due respect, this wasn't Graves' call. I realize he went on all the interviews and such, but it's pretty obvious Michael Bidwill was calling this shot. Graves signed off because he's a "yes" man, which is exactly why he has the current job in first place. I'm not trying to kill the guy (he seems like a nice man), but he's just not a good personnel man to begin with. And in this organization you have to have a defiant nature to fight the Bidwills' business first polices. Graves doesn't have a defiant bone in his body, he's the classic company man. He held the line on Cards 1st Round draft picks and contracts and changed that policy once Mike Bidwill told him he could. Face it, he's been a front man for Mike Bidwill all along and Denny Green is not going to stand for the types of decisions that a non-football person like Mike Bidwill makes. That dynamic hasn't existed since Ryan, for all his various faults, was here. Ferguson was (and still is) a good football guy, but he didn't carry the clout that a big name coach like Ryan or Green does. I think you need to have that in this organization. Green has it.
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Sorry guys, I just don't feel the excitement.
Is he going to be a better coach than Mac? Not a doubt in my mind. Should we see better results? I think we will.
But there are certain guys in sports that I just don't really care for. The way that Green acted in Minnesota soured me on him big time.
So is the future for our team looking better? In wins, probably. But I have to say, I am just not excited. I don't care for Green at all.
Its rough - I will watch the Cards, I want them to win the whole thing.I will never stop being a fan of this team as a whole. I just am not happy about this coach.
Is he going to be a better coach than Mac? Not a doubt in my mind. Should we see better results? I think we will.
But there are certain guys in sports that I just don't really care for. The way that Green acted in Minnesota soured me on him big time.
So is the future for our team looking better? In wins, probably. But I have to say, I am just not excited. I don't care for Green at all.
Its rough - I will watch the Cards, I want them to win the whole thing.I will never stop being a fan of this team as a whole. I just am not happy about this coach.
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It is clear that Michael is now calling the shots. Credit also to Graves for getting the organization from a reactive, tentative one to a proactive, decisive group that is walking their talk. They made a huge statement that they want to win. Green's particular experience with multiple QB's, inconsistent talent, and excellent game planning will only be sharpened by his last two years "on the bench" as an analyst. I'm sure management believes they can continue to encourage the team spirit and control any potential personal problems from Green, who wants a ring bad.
Prediction: this time next year my tailgating supplies will still be unpacked and ready for use!!!
It is clear that Michael is now calling the shots. Credit also to Graves for getting the organization from a reactive, tentative one to a proactive, decisive group that is walking their talk. They made a huge statement that they want to win. Green's particular experience with multiple QB's, inconsistent talent, and excellent game planning will only be sharpened by his last two years "on the bench" as an analyst. I'm sure management believes they can continue to encourage the team spirit and control any potential personal problems from Green, who wants a ring bad.
Prediction: this time next year my tailgating supplies will still be unpacked and ready for use!!!
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Well let's face it Graves couldn't change those things without permission from the bidwills because they sign the checks and the contracts.
2 years ago Bryant held out because of the insurance waiver, this year Graves got that changed. 2 years ago Bryant held out because he wanted 2 tiers and voidables, he eventually caved and signed for less than he wanted but still a reasonable deal, thsi year both Pace and Johnson got both. Everyone predicted Johnson would hold out for a long time after Pace signed for more than half the remaining caproom, Johnson was signed what 15 hours later? Things are getting better, not as quickly as we'd all liek but they are getting better.
I'd be surprised if Green CAN force Graves out for the very reasnons you say, Green was considered irresponsible with the cap in Minnesota, Bidwill won't let that happen here.
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Very excited here. So glad the cards got it done so quick. I cant wait to see who the assistants will be. Id like Jauron as DC.
RLakin
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No, I have not spoken to Ron about Green. I know he really liked Coughlin so I'm not sure how he would feel about Green. You can tune to his show on Friday on ESPN 860 from 3-5 PM. It's usually a football preview show but I'm sure he'll talk about it if someone calls in and asks. AZ Gameday is on ESPN Radio 860 Sat from 9-Noon if not. I'm positive they'll talk about it then.
And as to the other post below. I love the hiring of Dennis Green and think it's the best the Cardinals could have done.
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Very excited here. So glad the cards got it done so quick. I cant wait to see who the assistants will be. Id like Jauron as DC.
Good for you SWD. No sour grapes for J. Johnson...cool!
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Heck no!. Im skeptical if Green is here for the right reasons but if he is this is one of the happiest days of my life!!!!
Jim Johnson could be brought in as DC....Never know.....
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no he cant. He is the highest paid assistant in the NFL he isnt moving.
I like Jauron though as DC
I know everyone is down on Rod Graves....and he is hard to defend him based on the product he put on the field in 2003....but the guy has to know something. considering:
1. He was a very strong candidate for the opening in Atlanta a couple of years ago. They wanted to interview him and the Bidwills said: no...they probably told him - look: we will give you the same job here - Ferguson only has one more season and when he clears out you are our guy.
2. Steve Keim works for him and is a highly regarded up and comer and was mentioned in an article by a national publication as one of 4 up and comers who should be considered for for a GM job.
3. Mac was a bad coach...he is a very wonderful man - but a bad coach. He is gone and we hired an experienced guy who made the playoffs - what 8 out of 10 seasons?
4. Graves best friend (supposedly) in the NFL is Carl Peterson of the Chiefs - who after this season is considered one of the best GMs in the business. Graves and Peterson worked together for the eagles..if graves was a complete incompetant - I do not see the two of them hanging out.
While this may have been Michaels call on Green..I also think Graves is also kind of Michaels guy. The story I heard on the radio is that alot of the coaching staff was barely talking to graves and Michael for the 2nd half of the season. I think if graves did not want Denny Green..he would have tried to lead Michael to Fassel instead....just my opinion.
I cannot really defend alot of graves moves over the past 12 months..but I have a hard time believing he is a complete incompetant.
1. He was a very strong candidate for the opening in Atlanta a couple of years ago. They wanted to interview him and the Bidwills said: no...they probably told him - look: we will give you the same job here - Ferguson only has one more season and when he clears out you are our guy.
2. Steve Keim works for him and is a highly regarded up and comer and was mentioned in an article by a national publication as one of 4 up and comers who should be considered for for a GM job.
3. Mac was a bad coach...he is a very wonderful man - but a bad coach. He is gone and we hired an experienced guy who made the playoffs - what 8 out of 10 seasons?
4. Graves best friend (supposedly) in the NFL is Carl Peterson of the Chiefs - who after this season is considered one of the best GMs in the business. Graves and Peterson worked together for the eagles..if graves was a complete incompetant - I do not see the two of them hanging out.
While this may have been Michaels call on Green..I also think Graves is also kind of Michaels guy. The story I heard on the radio is that alot of the coaching staff was barely talking to graves and Michael for the 2nd half of the season. I think if graves did not want Denny Green..he would have tried to lead Michael to Fassel instead....just my opinion.
I cannot really defend alot of graves moves over the past 12 months..but I have a hard time believing he is a complete incompetant.
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Im a HUGE graves fan. He has done nothing since he was hired for me to say he is a bad gm. Mac was the problem not graves.
RLakin: thanks for the info..I usually listen to the saturday show and I knew he liked Coughlin. After listening to coughlin today on the radio....he sounds like he has not mellowed. Discipline is good...but I am not sure his extreme discipline will go over very well...
I give graves a free pass for now....he now has a decent coach to get something out of our players...I may feel differently after next season.
SWD::: I know..most people here are not that down on Graves..I heard our favorite banned roster ripping him a new one on the radio this afternoon..kind of got me going..
I give graves a free pass for now....he now has a decent coach to get something out of our players...I may feel differently after next season.
SWD::: I know..most people here are not that down on Graves..I heard our favorite banned roster ripping him a new one on the radio this afternoon..kind of got me going..
That's right.....I guess in all of this excitement I forgot.... I'm shocked that I even remember my own name!
TheCardFan
Things have changed.
Actually, I think Graves has a plan and has departed from the "old ways" of doing things at Cardinal HQ. In his defense, I think those plans haven't worked out the way they were drawn up but like today, they are staying on course.
