Cards Sign Justin Miller

[CardAvenger]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Justin-Miller-signs-with-Cardinals.html

The Arizona Cardinals filled a need they have been looking at for a little while when they signed veteran cornerback Justin Miller today.

Miller, a second-round pick by the New York Jets in 2005, received a one-year contract. He participated in minicamp last weekend on a tryout basis and apparently Arizona saw what is was looking for in him.

The five-year veteran has also been a Pro Bowl returner in his career. He played in one game with the Oakland Raiders last season and one game with the Jets. Miller has 12 career starts and could fill a role as a backup man. The Cardinals recently used Trumaine McBride, an ex-Chicago Bear, as their nickel back and they could be seeking an upgrade over him.

As the National Football Post reported last week, veteran cornerback Will James is visiting the NFC West rival San Francisco 49ers today. James was considered a possibility for the Cardinals. With Miller on board, it’s less likely they’ll take action on James.

 

[BigDavis75]

I would have preferred a more cover-oriented CB, but I do like the competition at the return positions.

 

[Shzm13]

Can he play corner, too?

 

[Evil Ash]

Can he play corner, too?

Sure, about as well as Morey played WR. He's purely a ST signing.

 

[Shane]

Sure, about as well as Morey played WR. He's purely a ST signing.

I would normally agree. But seeing how thin we are at CB it is highly unlikely this is just a ST's signing. I'm betting the team is going to hope he can provide some CB depth as well.

 

[ajcardfan]

I would normally agree. But seeing how thin we are at CB it is highly unlikely this is just a ST's signing. I'm betting the team is going to hope he can provide some CB depth as well.

Yeah, he's going to get a shot to play corner.

 

[O]

Donnie Henderson was the DC for the Jets when they drafted him on 05.

 

[Doug]

It is'nt for lack of trying in a VERY thin CB market in the NFL at this time or cycle of the NFL where passing is KING.

Now can we find someone to start over Gerald Hayes as I doubt he makes it 4 games into the season and Monty is not any answer for one series of downs.

We already have to cross our fingers after finding probably the best rookie to try and fill Dansby's spot.Dansby was'nt perfect by far but we have to keep Washington ready as fast as possible on a very different body type than Dansby,and will never have the same type as his body was'nt meant to hold much more bulk than it has now and WE don't know YET if he can handle the point of attack in the run game or improving his high tackling technique he's been surviving on.

We don't want a drag down leading tackler as our team leader.I also want Lenon replaced but feel he'll be counted on bigtime to help US with the possible transition for Washington and pray Daryl is up to the challenge and what Coach Whiz wanted as a relacement.

Our defense is built around that position.I'm so glad besides a true fullback I can't find a major weakness in a continuing to improve offense.I don't think Coach Whiz will tolerate a 7-9 team at all.We need a fullback with hands and can really open a running lane so we don't need Dockett or Branch in a backfield gimmick on the goalline or 4th down.

 

[Shane]

Now can we find someone to start over Gerald Hayes as I doubt he makes it 4 games into the season and Monty is not any answer for one series of downs.

My question is why are so many of you freaking out about Hayes and making comments like this when NONE of you know anything about his situation.

Furthermore Urban has clearly said that the team expects him to be ok by the time the season rolls around? Just because a guy was hurt last year doesn't make it an automatic this year.

 

[Monty]

This is nothing more than adding a bit of CB competition and more validly special teams depth. He will most likely compete with the other CB's to see if any of them are a viable alternative to Toler at the no 2 CB but the Cards likely see most of his value as a special teamer where he can fill several roles.

 

[joeshmo]

My question is why are so many of you freaking out about Hayes and making comments like this when NONE of you know anything about his situation.

We do know his situation. He stated himself that he has a bulging disc that has not healed from last season. A Bulging disc he is hoping he can rehab and not have to get surgery on.

He also stated even if it doesn't heal, "You know me I have played through pain before." Tells me the player himself hopes he will be healthy but isn't sure.

 

[Doug]

My question is why are so many of you freaking out about Hayes and making comments like this when NONE of you know anything about his situation.

Furthermore Urban has clearly said that the team expects him to be ok by the time the season rolls around? Just because a guy was hurt last year doesn't make it an automatic this year.

Hayes is DONE.I know more about it than you know shane.Plus Hayes has been injured at sometime every year he has played for the CARDINALS.Its just now with his unreleased SPECIFICS of his back problem diagnosis from his two games missed and the lack of the same player returning once he returned to the lineup.

Nothing I say is unfounded.Call Urban and ask for specifics on Hayes back injury and why it is neccesary for him not to be able to just run in a baby minicamp.Is he rehabbing a surgery? NO. Then why the TLC? You can only stay blind for so long to the years of consistent injury and missed time and consistant play.I'm all over it for a reason.Don't trust what I say.

Just be ready to be wrong again.Yes I said hayes is DONE just one hit away from us needing his replacement.I don't think Urban will have any answers for you either.But please ask him as he is your only source of real facts and truth.

Give me the benifit of the doubt until you get a diagnosis of Hayes' back problem and what the CARDINALS think he can play 16+ games through.

I'm asking for his relacement all pre-draft season.We did'nt find a thumper left after getting the first three rounds and top needs other than SILB that could even play at the Pro level on a 3-4.No Free agents look that great right now either.Does'nt mean the NEED is'nt there especially when Monty is your backup WE are in SERIOUS TROUBLE if you can remember how poorly Monty is at this position even as a backup.You should be concerned just to know that is a fact.

Hayes is one hit or just play with a twist or falling the wrong way from IR and not playing again due to not passing a physical.Some things can't be seen on a MRI without Gadolinium of recurrent disc material.OOPS! did I say Hayes has a disc problem?Whats my source or link? I won't be giving you one but why would I care if it was'nt real?

Why would I want the draft to fall differently so a SILB that could have started for us just did'nt happen due to other teams needs?I wish we could take a rehabbing Bullock and sign him for whats coming.I'm not gonna risk my Credability.I'll be here the whole time till you see I'm speaking of what I know and game stats show exactly of what I speak.

I know shane is BMOC around here and how dare I question him.Time will tell much sooner in this case and I would'nt waste MY time if I did'nt really care for Coach Whiz to be consistant in the product he puts on the field.
Trust me does'nt work in a message board world.So bad mouth me at will at your own belief.

 

[Pariah]

Re: Miller--Good. The CB position is so thin we need to through a bunch of bodies at it and hope someone steps up in TC.

re: Hayes--I like Hayes a lot, so I hope for his sake and the Cardinals sake he can return to some semblance of form. That said, I doubt it. It's a hole for certain, but I honestly think a thumper MLB in a 3-4 is probably the easiest type of LB to find in all of football.

(that's not to say I think we'll find someone as good as hayes was a couple of years ago, or that they're all the same, just that I think we can plug someone in there easier than we could at WILB or the OLB spots)

 

[Mulli]

Re: Miller--Good. The CB position is so thin we need to through a bunch of bodies at it and hope someone steps up in TC.

re: Hayes--I like Hayes a lot, so I hope for his sake and the Cardinals sake he can return to some semblance of form. That said, I doubt it. It's a hole for certain, but I honestly think a thumper MLB in a 3-4 is probably the easiest type of LB to find in all of football.

(that's not to say I think we'll find someone as good as hayes was a couple of years ago, or that they're all the same, just that I think we can plug someone in there easier than we could at WILB or the OLB spots)

BIM throw

 

[Doug]

We do know his situation. He stated himself that he has a bulging disc that has not healed from last season. A Bulging disc he is hoping he can rehab and not have to get surgery on.

He also stated even if it doesn't heal, "You know me I have played through pain before." Tells me the player himself hopes he will be healthy but isn't sure.

A lumbar disc does only one of (3) things.It Bulges,herniates or ruptures.There is no REAL medical term as slipped disc.Thats Chiro talk and is scary.

Do you know how close a Bulge is from a herniation and the pain involved?The drop-off in play from 10 tackle games to barely showing up on the stats page does'nt lie.

I don't want OUR season hanging on a disc situation play to play.With Monty as a repacement makes me want to scream.Its a MAJOR problem that has to be addressed BEFORE the season starts or Having your so called Thumper with a risky disc position is the way to go backwards with a nobody as a backup.PERIOD.

Do you want to see the you-tube video of the WR from Houston texans run over Hayes and put him on his back as he continued on 5 yards for a TD.Embarrassing was'nt the word.REPLACEMENT is the word as quickly as possible.

If the CARDINALS could have had any player of need from the draft McClain from Bama would have been the guy.We got the NT we wanted.We got "THE GUY" picked to best replace Karlos.We got a great new wide reciever who can be a returnman & fight to make the top 3 or higher in our 4 man WR rotation.

No One after that could have helped our situation as a rookie.Everyone else left was too much of a longterm project.Even the South carolina kid that is more suited to OLB in the 4th round.

I personally have degenerative DISC Disease and played the game and know what collisions do for a disc condition and hoping for a longterm POSITIVE outcome is pure dreaming.Hayes has'nt shown signs of early last year since then.

Why is he still not testing it?Too many questions to base the outcome of a defense taking a risk on an unproven nickleback and trying to fit Williams and Washington as quickly as we can in a defense that was embarrassed its last two games.

How many points can we squeeze out of Matt and the offense each game this year?

 

[Pariah]

BIM throw

weird. I don't know why I typed "through."

 

[Mulli]

A lumbar disc does only one of (3) things.It Bulges,herniates or ruptures.There is no REAL medical term as slipped disc.Thats Chiro talk and is scary.

Do you know how close a Bulge is from a herniation and the pain involved?The drop-off in play from 10 tackle games to barely showing up on the stats page does'nt lie.

I don't want OUR season hanging on a disc situation play to play.With Monty as a repacement makes me want to scream.Its a MAJOR problem that has to be addressed BEFORE the season starts or Having your so called Thumper with a risky disc position is the way to go backwards with a nobody as a backup.PERIOD.

Do you want to see the you-tube video of the WR from Houston texans run over Hayes and put him on his back as he continued on 5 yards for a TD.Embarrassing was'nt the word.REPLACEMENT is the word as quickly as possible.

If the CARDINALS could have had any player of need from the draft McClain from Bama would have been the guy.We got the NT we wanted.We got "THE GUY" picked to best replace Karlos.We got a great new wide reciever who can be a returnman & fight to make the top 3 or higher in our 4 man WR rotation.

No One after that could have helped our situation as a rookie.Everyone else left was too much of a longterm project.Even the South carolina kid that is more suited to OLB in the 4th round.

I personally have degenerative DISC Disease and played the game and know what collisions do for a disc condition and hoping for a longterm POSITIVE outcome is pure dreaming.Hayes has'nt shown signs of early last year since then.

Why is he still not testing it?Too many questions to base the outcome of a defense taking a risk on an unproven nickleback and trying to fit Williams and Washington as quickly as we can in a defense that was embarrassed its last two games.

How many points can we squeeze out of Matt and the offense each game this year?

Doug, you are a good guy and everything, but your posts are kind of hard to read sometimes.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I would just as soon take a shot on Miller as anyone. At least he had some kind of ability at one time to be drafted in round 2. He's not going to counted on as a starter so he can fill a role and possibly help the return game.

 

[Doug]

Doug, you are a good guy and everything, but your posts are kind of hard to read sometimes.

Blame it on chronic pain 24-7 or brain tumor.Take your pick.sorry for not being able to post in a better fashion.I do it out of love for the team and wanting to win it all though.

So its coming from a good place even if it stinks as you try to read.Forgive me for my passion.

 

[Mulli]

Blame it on chronic pain 24-7 or brain tumor.Take your pick.sorry for not being able to post in a better fashion.I do it out of love for the team and wanting to win it all though.

So its coming from a good place even if it stinks as you try to read.Forgive me for my passion.

You are good. It is just the all caps sometimes. Don't pay me any attention. I forgot about your chronic pain.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

from wkipedia: Miller sounds like a helluva return man. I thought he had an off field issue also. Here his pro career info:

Professional career
[edit] First stint with Jets

Miller was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2005 NFL Draft (25th pick) by the New York Jets. As a rookie, Justin Miller made his impact as kick returner. He compiled 1,577 yards with a 26.3 yard average along with a touchdown. In 2006, Miller averaged 30.1 yards with 2 touchdowns. On October 1, 2006, in a game versus the Indianapolis Colts, Miller scored the longest touchdown in Jets history at the time (it has since been surpassed by a 106 yard return by Brad Smith), on a 103 yard kick return kicked off by Martin Gramatica. For his efforts, Miller earned a Pro Bowl selection as the AFC's kick returner. During the 2007 Pro Bowl festivities, Miller won the Fastest Man Competition.
In May 2007, Miller was arrested and charged with third-degree misdemeanor assault after he allegedly punched a woman in a New York City nightclub.[1]
On September 18, 2007, the Jets placed Miller on injured reserve due to a season-ending knee injury he suffered in the Jets 20-13 loss to the Baltimore Ravens.[2] The Jets waived Miller on November 11, 2008 after cornerback Ty Law was signed.
[edit] Oakland Raiders

Miller was claimed off waivers by the Oakland Raiders on November 12, 2008. In a Thursday Night Football game against the San Diego Chargers, Miller had a 92-yard kick return for a touchdown at the end of the first half. The following week, Miller ran another kick back for a touchdown for 91 yards against the New England Patriots. Miller was named NFL Special Teams Player of the Month for the month of December. After visiting the Tennessee Titans in the off-season, Justin Miller signed a two year contract with the Oakland Raiders. He was released on September 5, 2009 along with several other players. On September 30, 2009, Miller was re-signed by the Raiders. However, he was released on October 7.
[edit] Second stint with Jets

On October 27, 2009, the New York Jets re-signed Justin Miller[3]. He was expected to replace Leon Washington, who had a season ending injury during week 7 against the Oakland Raiders, as the team's kick returner. However, he was waived on November 28, 2009.
[edit] Arizona Cardinals

Miller signed with the Arizona Cardinals on May 3, 2010.
[edit] References

 

[HookemCards]

I have to agree with those saying we're in trouble there. Back problems are constantly lingering, and even when they are corrected they are easily reinjured. If I were the Cards's I'd bring in at least one, maybe 2 ILB, and IR Hayes and let him get the surgery, hopefully next year, we have someone to replace him as starter and he can play backup. I love his attitude, but right now probably best if he sits out this year.

 

[Dayman]

I would just as soon take a shot on Miller as anyone. At least he had some kind of ability at one time to be drafted in round 2. He's not going to counted on as a starter so he can fill a role and possibly help the return game.

I agree. Miller is far from ideal, but he'll probably be just as effective as Ralph Brown, Barksdale or William James.

 

[PoolBoy]

being that he is really fast and can tackle, he has to be an improvement over at least Adams or Barksdale.

 

[Doug]

You are good. It is just the all caps sometimes. Don't pay me any attention. I forgot about your chronic pain.

Heck Mulli I totally agree with you 100%.I can barely reread my own posts.I'm just unable to convey over a keyboard the voice inflections the normal person is able to do.

Plus lately im pecking out my posts on a laptop on the bed as its so much easier to type with such big fingers on my regular giant keyboard.

I beg forgiveness and want it also known I love Gerald hayes and am praying for him daily.I pray he gets to fullfill his dreams of helping our team and is able to crush a few rb's and rack up big tackle totals once again.

Backs are a tricky thing with the nerves that get invoved and sometimes crushed.I don't want Gerald in my shoes years from now.He's been a quiet contributor on a SB CARDINALS team and he wants to contribute bigtime.

Its just so much to bet the bank on.To go back to original thought and post on this thread.The CARDINALS need to address the SILB position with as much fervor as CB has been.I really dislike the whiners and want to crush them this year.Long history with those clowns.

I believe like Pariah said the SILB position is one of the easiest positions to fill in todays NFL.Hopefully they bring leadership as they are provided the best chances to stack up big Ray Lewis type stats.If you can fill that spot with someone really special then your defense is gonna rock.I want that.

I think Whiz is on top of things and has a few more tweeks to make before we are ready for the season.