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Gonzalez miffed as he's replaced in lineup by rookie

Andrew Bagnato
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Jun. 20, 2006 07:09 PM
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PHOENIX - Arizona manager Bob Melvin told Luis Gonzalez he was going to start rookie Carlos Quentin in left field Thursday night to give him a night off against a tough left-hander.

Gonzalez took it a different way. The 16-year veteran interpreted his benching as a sign the organization may be ready to part company with him at year's end. There has been speculation the club will not pick up its $10 million option on Gonzalez for 2007.

"You guys read the writing on the wall," Gonzalez told reporters before the Diamondbacks played the Los Angeles Dodgers at Chase Field. "Am I upset? Of course I am. If you weren't upset, you wouldn't be a professional athlete, not wanting to be on the field." OAS_AD('ArticleFlex_1')
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Melvin said he spoke with Gonzalez on Wednesday night to let him know he would be getting a day off against Dodgers starter Mark Hendrickson. Gonzalez is 2-for-7 lifetime against Hendrickson.

"It's just going to be a one-day thing," Melvin said. "Gonzo will be back out there tomorrow. But certainly Gonzo wants to play every day, and I don't blame him."

Like recently promoted shortstop Stephen Drew, the 23-year-old Quentin is considered a big part of the Diamondbacks' future. Quentin, a first-round draft pick in 2003, was hitting .289 with 30 doubles, three triples, nine homers and 52 RBIs in 85 games for Triple-A Tucson. To make room for Quentin, the Diamondbacks optioned right-hander Edgar Gonzalez to Tucson.

Gonzalez said he was happy for Quentin, who made his major league debut Thursday night.

"I'm excited for Quentin to be here," Gonzalez said. "I hope he gets four hits tonight, five hits. But as a veteran that's been around, I want to be on the field."

The timing of the move mystified Gonzalez, who said the club needs veteran leadership as it contends for the NL West title. Arizona came into Thursday's game in third place, three games behind San Diego. Gonzalez hinted that the Diamondbacks' front office pushed Melvin to play Quentin.

"It's kind of weird because we're in the middle of a pennant race, but I understand that it's not (Melvin's) decision," Gonzalez said. "I think there's a lot more to it, maybe not from down here (in the clubhouse)."

It's been a frustrating season for the 38-year-old Gonzalez, a 2001 World Series hero and the most popular player in franchise history. Although he's been hot since the All-Star break, Gonzalez came into Thursday batting .270 with seven home runs and 43 RBIs. He's on pace to hit only 12 homers, which would be his fewest since 1997.

Last month, Gonzalez reacted angrily when Diamondbacks managing general partner Ken Kendrick told a newspaper there have been "whispers" about whether the five-time All-Star used performance-enhancing drugs. Kendrick did not accuse his left fielder of cheating, but Gonzalez called a press conference because, he said, he felt the need to defend himself.

Now Gonzalez seems at odds with the front office, led by first-year general manager Josh Byrnes.

"This is a new regime here," Gonzalez said. "I understand that. And I understand the direction they want to go, and I can live with that."

"I honestly don't want this to play into a soap opera. I've been playing 16 years. I've been here for eight, and I don't want to play head games or things like that. I feel like I've earned the respect just to kind of know what's going on upstairs."

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IIRC his minor league career was quite undistinguished.
I don't know where you're getting that but that definitely wasn't the case. He was a .335 career hitter in the minor leagues. He didn't really hit many homeruns (neither did Conor Jackson) but he hit a lot of doubles.
 

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Start hitting left-handed pitching Gonzo, then you can complain.

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I honestly don't want this to play into a soap opera.

Well, that's exactly what you did in the middle of a pennant race with your team playing good ball. Another reason why Gonzo's "leadership" qualities are vastly overrated by DBack fans. After this nonsense I'd trade him for next to nothing, Quentin and Hairston can replace his production without a problem.

Congrats to Quentin. Helluva way to start your career. Too bad your crybaby veteran teammate tried to spoil the party before the game.
 
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Oh i disagree.....I was pleasantly surprised when he "over-achieved" last year and i saw the potential to develop into a good/great contact hitter. But it was his work ethic that made me think that not his natural talent or swing. IIRC his minor league career was quite undistinguished. Now I am getting a little worried that pitchers have adjusted to him and all the hard work in the world isn't going to allow him to overcome it.

For the record i hope im wrong. But hes not even on the same planet as Jackson, Drew, Young, and Quentin talent wise and minor league production wise. He has obviously done it at the major league level, which the others havn't, but i get worried when third year players are not significantly improving from the year before......
I added to my last post so you can go see that. I just think he's adjusting to being the top hitter on the team this year and he should get better. Minor League stats don't mean anything to me. It's what you do after that counts and a good work ethic can make you a better player. I see him being better that a few of those prospects. And besides average, like I said, his stats are up from last season. Also, his college coach being sick and dieing may have taken his mind off of baseball for a while.

And like nm said it was just the home runs really. Doubles hitters can turn into decent home run hitters after hitting the weight room.
 

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Nasser22 said:
I added to my last post so you can go see that. I just think he's adjusting to being the top hitter on the team this year and he should get better. Minor League stats don't mean anything to me. It's what you do after that counts and a good work ethic can make you a better player. I see him being better that a few of those prospects. And besides average, like I said, his stats are up from last season. Also, his college coach being sick and dieing may have taken his mind off of baseball for a while.

And like nm said it was just the home runs really. Doubles hitters can turn into decent home run hitters after hitting the weight room.

To add on to this I just think it's unfair to Tracy that you say you wish we'd have a young 3rd base prospect when I think Tracy will be a very nice player for us for years to come. He'll get his average back up like last season and in the minors and his other stats are pretty nice too. He has also kept improving on D even though he still has a way to go.

Great way to start of a big league career for Quentin he got his first hit, homer, RBI and run in his first at bat and gave us a nice lead.
 

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Arizona's Finest said:
I think I am ready for Chris Young to split time with Eric Byrnes next year. Or possibly even get spot starts in LF.

What about a 2007 OF of Byrnes, Young and Quentin? Two young studs and a high energy guy.
 

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and 2008: Young, Upton, Quentin. Infield of Jackson, Hudson, Drew, Tracy (or Barden).

Drool puddle.
 

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AZZenny said:
and 2008: Young, Upton, Quentin. Infield of Jackson, Hudson, Drew, Tracy (or Barden).

Drool puddle.

Callaspo may be the next called up. He can play 2B/SS/3B and is tearing it up in AAA
 

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Don't know why you guys want to replace Tracy. That really annoys me a lot more than the Marion trade talk at the Suns board during the playoffs, but that is a going to be a great team right there.

Next year I'd like to have a Byrnes, Young and Quentin outfield. They should focus more on pitching since that's a huge need and it would be dumb to go after Lee when we have Byrnes and FOUR top outfielder prospects.
 

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Nasser22 said:
Don't know why you guys want to replace Tracy. That really annoys me a lot more than the Marion trade talk at the Suns board during the playoffs, but that is a going to be a great team right there.

Next year I'd like to have a Byrnes, Young and Quentin outfield. They should focus more on pitching since that's a huge need and it would be dumb to go after Lee when we have Byrnes and FOUR top outfielder prospects.

Yikes! President of the Chad Tracy fan club!

I'm not meaning any disrespect towards the guy. But i got an eye for players and how they will end up being and Tracy worries me a little bit. And for the record, i don't know Tracy's minor league numbers off hand but i sure as hell follow the team close enough to remember that his arrival did not produce much fanfare or expectation. Thats not always an indicator of future success but it is what it is...

I think my main point is that it worries me when players should be making their greatest improvements between year 2 and 3 and he doesnt seem to be doing that. Baseball is a funny sport in that only the best of the best are consistently good, but its not like Tracy is established over the course of more than one season. I also like a little pop out of my hot corner and i dont see Tracy going over 30 HR's ever.

Its okay man. We can have different tastes in players. Like i said earlier i just want whats best for the D'backs so I hope he proves me wrong and wins a batting title next year.
 

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Arizona's Finest said:
Yikes! President of the Chad Tracy fan club!

I'm not meaning any disrespect towards the guy. But i got an eye for players and how they will end up being and Tracy worries me a little bit. And for the record, i don't know Tracy's minor league numbers off hand but i sure as hell follow the team close enough to remember that his arrival did not produce much fanfare or expectation. Thats not always an indicator of future success but it is what it is...
Tracy killed the ball at every stop in the minors. Not a lot of power, but he was wildly successful every team he played for, and picked up many accolades along the way (two Futures Game appearances, Texas League MVP, numerous all-star selections, etc). He wasnt as highly touted as guys like Stephen Drew, but he was considered a top prospect before his arrival a few seasons ago. None of that means he will be successful, but it does say that he wasnt a no-name prospect or that there were low expectations for him. Chad Tracy will be just fine once the team gets a legit power hitter so they can move him out of batting third and back in the second slot where he belongs.
 
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He's got to work on his OBP before they move him back to second. His Ks are up massively this year, which is what worries me, and he's merely adequate defensively, but give him another year. I'm fine with Chad for now, I just think there's a chance Barden may be a better overall player. Remains to be seen.
 

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He's got to work on his OBP before they move him back to second. His Ks are up massively this year, which is what worries me, and he's merely adequate defensively, but give him another year. I'm fine with Chad for now, I just think there's a chance Barden may be a better overall player. Remains to be seen.
I feel that a lot of the problems we are seeing from Chad Tracy at the plate this year is because he has had to be misutilized. He has never been a power hitter, but the team has had to bat him third because nobody else on the team at this stage is a power hitter either. Stick him back at 2nd in the order next season where his bat projects better and I think there is a very good chance he will be much closer to the Chad Tracy we saw in 2004 and 2005 than the one we are seeing now.
 

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Yikes! President of the Chad Tracy fan club!

I'm not meaning any disrespect towards the guy. But i got an eye for players and how they will end up being and Tracy worries me a little bit. And for the record, i don't know Tracy's minor league numbers off hand but i sure as hell follow the team close enough to remember that his arrival did not produce much fanfare or expectation. Thats not always an indicator of future success but it is what it is...

I think my main point is that it worries me when players should be making their greatest improvements between year 2 and 3 and he doesnt seem to be doing that. Baseball is a funny sport in that only the best of the best are consistently good, but its not like Tracy is established over the course of more than one season. I also like a little pop out of my hot corner and i dont see Tracy going over 30 HR's ever.

Its okay man. We can have different tastes in players. Like i said earlier i just want whats best for the D'backs so I hope he proves me wrong and wins a batting title next year.
I understand why you're worried but he has done well for us. His average is down and his K's are up because he has no protection in the line-up and they made him the best hitter on the team already. I agree with the things coyoteshockeyfan said. I don't think he needs to have much power. He'll get around 30 home runs which is great and with all these prospects coming up they should also get about as many home runs as Tracy gets and the team will have plenty of power in a few years. Tracy always hit for a good average. He does struggle against lefties but he will improve. He was improving a lot last season and I think soon he could be a good hitter for us 2nd in the order.

You do know he has 3 more home runs than last year at this time right? And I also think he has more RBI's, runs and stolen bases also.
 

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coyoteshockeyfan said:
I feel that a lot of the problems we are seeing from Chad Tracy at the plate this year is because he has had to be misutilized. He has never been a power hitter, but the team has had to bat him third because nobody else on the team at this stage is a power hitter either. Stick him back at 2nd in the order next season where his bat projects better and I think there is a very good chance he will be much closer to the Chad Tracy we saw in 2004 and 2005 than the one we are seeing now.

Not sure if you caught his interview earlier this season but Tracy addressed his "power game." He said that if Melvin wanted him to be a HR hitter he could fill that role but his avg would be around .250. He said he is more of a contact/line drive hitter and when he's in that mental approach he has potential to be a mid-.300's batter. You have to wonder if Tracy mental approach is a little of due to the teams need for him in the power spots. IMO, he should approach every at-bat trying to make good contact no matter where he's batting in the lineup. We are a small ball team and I hope Melvin is telling him to simply get on base. His strikeout rate is out of this world this season... He'll be alright, just part of the maturation process
 

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If we spend $12 million a year on Zito, I'm going to kill myself. He's a flyball pitcher that walks a batter every other inning and can't get through seven innings per start. Add all those things and you get a complete disaster picthing half your games at Chase Field.

I'd rather that $12 million go to two of Tomo Ohka, Vicente Padilla, and Randy Wolf than one of Barry Zito.

Very good point. Chase is almost as deadly as Colorado's field for homers. If Zito can't keep it down in the zone and be affective he'd be toast here. No need spending that kind of $$ on him. And I have a feeling that's the way the DBacks and Byrnes would go. Get some Non-Ortiz type quality arms that can keep the ball on the ground.
 

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devilfan02 said:
Not sure if you caught his interview earlier this season but Tracy addressed his "power game." He said that if Melvin wanted him to be a HR hitter he could fill that role but his avg would be around .250. He said he is more of a contact/line drive hitter and when he's in that mental approach he has potential to be a mid-.300's batter. You have to wonder if Tracy mental approach is a little of due to the teams need for him in the power spots. IMO, he should approach every at-bat trying to make good contact no matter where he's batting in the lineup. We are a small ball team and I hope Melvin is telling him to simply get on base. His strikeout rate is out of this world this season... He'll be alright, just part of the maturation process
Because they have asked him to hit more home runs his average is down, additionally, it has caused him to strike out more, trying to pull the ball. If they had a real #3 his bat would be best at #2, where he would hit in the .300's.

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