Carson Palmer is Carson Palmer

[Cheesebeef]

I guess if you want to blame Palmer for blowing an 11 point fourth quarter lead and doing nothing with 40 seconds left, and no TO(hence I said realistically earlier) then so be it.

what about when the game was tied with 3 minutes left and we had the ball and he did nothing airmailing a big play wheel-route to Ellington? Why are you completely ignoring the fact that the game was tied late in the fourth, we had the ball and Palmer did nothing, forcing us to punt which let the Rams get the ball back and score the GW FG? That's not blaming the entire game on Palmer, that's saying he didn't get it done in a make-or-break situation, like YOU brought up. You're now moving the goal-posts and talking about "blaming Palmer" for an entire game because you're 5-2 record, which looked impressive, is now more 5-4 where Palmer has either come up good or bad at the end of the games. It's lame.

You were wrong. He's 5-4 in close end of game scenarios. It's okay to just admit it and move on.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

what about when the game was tied with 3 minutes left and we had the ball and he did nothing airmailing a big play wheel-route to Ellington? Why are you completely ignoring the fact that the game was tied late in the fourth, we had the ball and Palmer did nothing, forcing us to punt which let the Rams get the ball back and score the GW FG? That's not blaming the entire game on Palmer, that's saying he didn't get it done in a make-or-break situation, like YOU brought up. You're now moving the goal-posts and talking about "blaming Palmer" for an entire game because you're 5-2 record, which looked impressive, is now more 5-4 where Palmer has either come up good or bad at the end of the games. It's lame.

You were wrong. He's 5-4 in close end of game scenarios. It's okay to just admit it and move on.

I've only been wrong once, read my signature line.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I've only been wrong once, read my signature line.

Lol... Ill take that as acknowledgment. 5-4 in end of game situations is pretty much right in line with who Palmer is as a QB throughout his career. A little above average. MUCH better then anything we've ever had outside
Warner, but with the step back on D, he's got to be GREAT if this team is going to be a contender. He hasn't been so far this season.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

BTW, I have yet to hear a stat mentioning come from tied to win but have heard many times of how many come from behind wins a QB has had.

 

[kerouac9]

BTW, I have yet to hear a stat mentioning come from tied to win but have heard many times of how many come from behind wins a QB has had.

"Gamewinning Drives" is the stat that you're looking for. Here's Peyton Manning's:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=MannPe00

43 4Q comebacks; 54 game-winning drives.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_career.htm

Carson Palmer has 26 career game-winning drives.

 

[MadCardDisease]

NFL-record streaks of 587 pass attempts and 49 touchdown passes at home without an interception for Aaron Rodgers was ended by the Rams defense. The Rams picked off Rodgers twice in Green Bay. Rodgers also lost a fumble in that game.

Against the Niners, Rodgers was only able to throw for 224 yards and 1 TD. Very pedistrian numbers against a terrible Niner defense.

Does that mean Rodgers isn't an Elite QB anymore? I mean he had two not so good games this year.

I don't think Palmer is elite but I do think he is a very good QB. Yes he had a bad game but that happens to even the elite QBs.