Celtics @ Suns 11-8-18

[High Stakes]

Everyone needs to chill out!

IMO last night's game was exactly what everyone should want. Who cares we didn't get the W. We are a young team playing against an eastern conference finals squad. We actually tried last night. The suns showed effort. We showed that when we try, we can compete. Everyone knew when we were up 16 w/ 5 to go, we would most likely loose (arizona sports in a nutshell)

We finally got Ayton involved inside (we most likely lost because we went away from this in the 4th) Also Holmes is an idiot when he lost his cool in the 4th. Forced ayton to enter the 4th w/ 11 minutes left, not 6-8 mins where he should be going in, most likely was spent by the 3 minute mark. He will learn how to be more dominate in time.

Enough with the firing of igor. we need stability, we are 10 games into the season, relax everyone. Let him put in his scheme, let the young guys grow, as long as we have the effort we did in the first half last night, i am fine with whatever result. He does however, need to focus on getting the ball to ayton inside and making sure jackson gets off the bench ( i thought he put in a good burn in the first)

PG. Caanan is horrible. But we knew this. I like rozier and believe ainge will trade him before he looses him for nothing. i wouldnt pay more than bucks pick, otherwise go after him in free agency.

I am more than happy to lose every game this season, not reach on a bum like john wall, just need to show competitive fire, effort, etc. Results will come, but anyone who believed the suns had a chance to make the playoffs (when the year began) is smoking something of high quality. The goal of our current team should be to grow, learn, and make sure in 2-3 years, we are well positioned to make a run.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I couldn't watch the game last night. I can see that we led for most of the game and then lost in overtime at the end. It is frustrating giving up a big lead, but we were competitive against a good team. I am sure I would have different opinion if I watched it through. It does seem that this game represents some improvement though.

 

[unseenaz]

josh jackson and mikal bridges combined played as many minutes as ryan anderson. yeah.

 

[Raindog]

I have no doubt that Ayton would be routinely putting up 25 and 13 if the Suns were utilizing him effectively instead of either trying to turn him into the world's tallest shooting guard, or Meyers Leonard (ie, stand under the basket while the point guards pretend you don't exist).

 

[82CardsGrad]

Who is Boston's power forward? They don't really have one.

Isn't that Marcus Morris??

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

josh jackson and mikal bridges combined played as many minutes as ryan anderson. yeah.

This is especially ridiculous when you consider that Boston is a small team. I could maybe understand it if we were playing the Pelicans for instance who are big at both PF and C.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Booker was gassed at the end. He generated some pretty wide open looks for Canaan and one for Ariza and none of them could hit the shot in the 4th. I've said it before and I'll say it again, unless someone else can keep the defense honest, Booker is just going to get smothered like he did last night.

 

[95pro]

Booker was gassed at the end. He generated some pretty wide open looks for Canaan and one for Ariza and none of them could hit the shot in the 4th. I've said it before and I'll say it again, unless someone else can keep the defense honest, Booker is just going to get smothered like he did last night.

Yep we need someone else to generate shots for Booker and not Canaan.

 

[Superbone]

I see this game as far more positive than negative. We have lots of reasons for hope but oh how I wish Josh had taken a step further in his career instead of completely falling apart.

Sometimes you have to break things and put them back together the right way. I'm hoping Josh is on that path. I haven't given up on him. Let's see what happens the rest of the year.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Sometimes you have to break things and put them back together the right way. I'm hoping Josh is on that path. I haven't given up on him. Let's see what happens the rest of the year.

I haven't given up on him either but I am disappointed by his lack of improvement but more so I am confounded by his apparent return to 2017 form.

 

[Mainstreet]

Booker was gassed at the end. He generated some pretty wide open looks for Canaan and one for Ariza and none of them could hit the shot in the 4th. I've said it before and I'll say it again, unless someone else can keep the defense honest, Booker is just going to get smothered like he did last night.

And defenses know that can key on Booker at the end of the game.

The Celtics were going to Irving as well but other Celtic players made key shots for them down the stretch.

 

[Suns_fan69]

And defenses know that can key on Booker at the end of the game.

The Celtics were going to Irving as well but other Celtic players made key shots for them down the stretch.

That was the lasting impression I got. Other Celtics made baskets so our defense had to stay home which let Kyrie run wild, while the only Sun who made anything happen was Booker (and I think one make by TJ?).

Also, I hate that we didn't sub in our best defenders for that last regular time possession by Celtics. Should have been Canaan, Bridges, Jackson, Ariza, Holmes IMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

That was the lasting impression I got. Other Celtics made baskets so our defense had to stay home which let Kyrie run wild, while the only Sun who made anything happen was Booker (and I think one make by TJ?).

Also, I hate that we didn't sub in our best defenders for that last regular time possession by Celtics. Should have been Canaan, Bridges, Jackson, Ariza, Holmes IMO.

Exactly. And Morris was left open for the game tying three which forced overtime.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Exactly. And Morris was left open for the game tying three which forced overtime.

They should have just switched and forced Kyrie to take the three. It would have been more contested and they likely have more time left on the clock to try and score ourselves. Or better yet, just foul before a shot is attepted and force them to go the length of the court after we hit our free throws.

 

[Mainstreet]

They should have just switched and forced Kyrie to take the three. It would have been more contested and they likely have more time left on the clock to try and score ourselves. Or better yet, just foul before a shot is attepted and force them to go the length of the court after we hit our free throws.

There are a lot of different solutions. It's a disheartening game to relive.

I hope the Suns bring the effort at the Pelicans on Saturday.

 

[Hoop Head]

One positive we should have learned from this season is we have a star in Booker. He may not be a great defender but he's an offensive star, for sure. He's no longer a star in the making, he's at that All-Star level. It's easier to build a team around a player like him than building a cohesive team while hoping to add a star like him to it. We saw that for McD's entire tenure. He kept saying we would get someone from somewhere and it never happened. I don't think he anticipated Booker because as good as he's been because if he did then he might have made different moves this offseason to surround him with talent that compliments his skill set.

 

[SirStefan32]

I think once the inbound pass takes place, you send all five of your players to the three point line. With six or seven seconds, there is no need to guard the paint. All you have to do is inbound the ball if they score a two.

 

[Superbone]

Why is nobody saying we should have fouled when Morris had the ball with his back to the basket? That is what should have happened. No question.

 

[Errntknght]

Why is nobody saying we should have fouled when Morris had the ball with his back to the basket? That is what should have happened. No question.

No doubt a good move, but if Igor was emphasizing don't foul anyone shooting he might not have told them to foul someone who couldn't shoot. They were told to switch but they didn't, they doubled Kyrie instead.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I wish he had a little bit of rookie Stoudemire's desire to dunk on everyone.

Rookie Ayton is probably 10 times the player rookie Stoudemirw was. Amare could only dunk as a rookie.

 

[Superbone]

Amare could only dunk as a rookie.

Crazy wrong.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Crazy wrong.

His rookie year he couldn't do much more than dunk but few could stop him anyway. Then he developed a mid range shot and had it not been for injuries, he would have been greatest overall player the Suns ever had. That's assuming we could keep him in Phoenix for his entire run.

 

[Sunburn]

Rookie Ayton is probably 10 times the player rookie Stoudemirw was. Amare could only dunk as a rookie.

10 times the player? Amare averaged 14 and 9 as a rook, and was a destructive force of nature that instilled fear into the heart of the enemy.

 

[SirStefan32]

Ten times is an intentional exaggeration, but there is no question Ayton is a far better player than Stoudemire was in his rookie year. Sure, he is not as "exciting", but I'd rather he be smart than dunk on a few people and appear in a few ESPN highlights.
I'll take Ayton any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Kid doesn't do stupid stuff, he has low-post moves, is able to hit jumpers, and passes the ball extremely well.

 

[Sunburn]

Ten times is an intentional exaggeration, but there is no question Ayton is a far better player than Stoudemire was in his rookie year. Sure, he is not as "exciting", but I'd rather he be smart than dunk on a few people and appear in a few ESPN highlights.
I'll take Ayton any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Kid doesn't do stupid stuff, he has low-post moves, is able to hit jumpers, and passes the ball extremely well.

I agree he is better at this point, but pre-injury Amare could've ended up being the best player this team ever had. He had a nasty that Ayton clearly lacks. Sigh, what couldve been.