Chicago Sun-Times: Suns/Bulls/Lakers trade?

[NastyOne]

if we take back Radmon, then there is no way in hell we give up the Hawks pick.

Gotta give to get, and this is the best possible deal we could hope for if Marion were traded.

Noah and Thomas would makeup for Radmanovic's bad contract, and the Hawks pick is starting to lose value since they actually look like they'll field a competitive team this season.

And who knows maybe Radman actually excells in this offense.

Plus we actually save money this season.

 

[hsandhu]

I'm completely missing something, why the hell are we facilitating a trade that we can be the center of.

In this 3-team, lakers end up with marion/gordon/other stuff. Why? Why are we trading marion for tyrus thomas? Why are we making this trade when the package of marion/barbosa/atl is just as good as what the lakers get in the 3-team, but instead of tyrus thomas we get kobe?

If the lakers don't want to trade kobe to us, fine, but we shouldn't facilitate a trade to another team, especially when we have a good enough package to get him straight up.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I think that is a little overboard. I don't see Thomas scoring 18/14/3.

Sorry. I'm thinking that Thomas will put numbers up that will "rival" what Howard did 2 years ago. FYI, Howard did like 16ppg/12rpg/1.5bpg. My guesstimate is that Thomas will put up 14/11/2....

 

[green machine]

I'm completely missing something, why the hell are we facilitating a trade that we can be the center of.

In this 3-team, lakers end up with marion/gordon/other stuff. Why? Why are we trading marion for tyrus thomas? Why are we making this trade when the package of marion/barbosa/atl is just as good as what the lakers get in the 3-team, but instead of tyrus thomas we get kobe?

If the lakers don't want to trade kobe to us, fine, but we shouldn't facilitate a trade to another team, especially when we have a good enough package to get him straight up.

I'm guessing the Lakers don't want to send Kobe here, and this is the Suns' best chance to get some value for Marion.

 

[Chaplin]

Why would we help the Lakers be a part of a blockbuster trade?

No thanks to every single scenario posted on this thread.

 

[hsandhu]

Why would we help the Lakers be a part of a blockbuster trade?

No thanks to every single scenario posted on this thread.

Exactly, send him to us or go find your own deal.

 

[NastyOne]

Why would we help the Lakers be a part of a blockbuster trade?

No thanks to every single scenario posted on this thread.

Who cares if we are helping the Lakers in this deal, we would be helping ourselves even more. Plus how much can we be helping them when their trading away the best scorer in the NBA since Jordan. Gordon, Marion and Odom aint leading them to the playoffs in the West.

And Anyone that doesnt think Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah wouldnt be great value for Marion is clearly a Marion homer or just dumb.

Marion one way or another is gone next year, So getting two young talented scrappy players in the mold of Marion is a great pickup. (Hell i think Tyrus Thomas in the Suns system could outperform Marion within the next 2 years)


And if the Lakers wanted Marion, Barbosa and ATL 1st for Kobe, Kobe would already be a Sun.

Obviously they dont want to trade a Superstar future HOF to a division rival.

 

[Rab]

Who cares if we are helping the Lakers in this deal, we would be helping ourselves even more.

Anyone that doesnt think Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah wouldnt be great value for Marion is clearly a Marion homer or just dumb.

Marion one way or another is gone next year, So getting two young talented scrappy players in the mold of Marion is a great pickup. (Hell i think Tyrus Thomas in the Suns system could outperform Marion within the next 2 years)


And if the Lakers wanted Marion, Barbosa and ATL 1st for Kobe, Kobe would already be a Sun.

Obviously they dont want to trade a Superstar future HOF to a division rival.

The question becomes....Do we have that much time?

 

[NastyOne]

The question becomes....Do we have that much time?

I think the production from Tyrus Thomas and Noah would equal Marion this season, And by next season and beyond it would surpass him by a pretty large margin.

I think of it this way...

The Suns would've done a ATLs pick and their own pick for Noah at draft time if the Bulls wanted to do it.

And if we could get Tyrus Thomas right now for Marion one for one, the Suns would probably have a hard time turning it down considering Marion's a goner next year.

So imo we would comeout ontop in this deal because of Noah for a pick that might not even be in the lottery anymore with the way the Hawks are looking.

 

[WuRaider]

LA caller: Chicago gets Kobe, Lakers get Marion, Noah, Thomas, Gordon........(wait for it) and the Suns get Kwame, Cook, and Radman

La Host: Thats a perfect trade.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

LA caller: Chicago gets Kobe, Lakers get Marion, Noah, Thomas, Gordon........(wait for it) and the Suns get Kwame, Cook, and Radman

La Host: Thats a perfect trade.

That is horrible..

lmao.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

tell me about it.

that's not the kobe we'd get. we'd get the kobe wanting to win a championship while having strong personalities like nash, hill, amare, and bell around to keep him in line.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

that's not the kobe we'd get. we'd get the kobe wanting to win a championship while having strong personalities like nash, hill, amare, and bell around to keep him in line.

We'd also get the shutdown perimeter defender Kobe.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We'd also get the shutdown perimeter defender Kobe.

we would be so good.

 

[asudevil83]

LA caller: Chicago gets Kobe, Lakers get Marion, Noah, Thomas, Gordon........(wait for it) and the Suns get Kwame, Cook, and Radman

La Host: Thats a perfect trade.

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for me to poop on

/just begging for it.

 

[mribnik]

lmao. ESPN just went to "breaking news" just to report that a three-way deal with the Bulls, Kings, and Lakers involving the likes of Ben Wallace, Ron Artest and PJ Brown (in addition to Kobe and Gordon and others) fell through. What a shocker. I can't stand Ric Bucher

 

[Divide Et Impera]

LA caller: Chicago gets Kobe, Lakers get Marion, Noah, Thomas, Gordon........(wait for it) and the Suns get Kwame, Cook, and Radman

La Host: Thats a perfect trade.

Talk about a lopsided trade! I'm sure we'd HAVE TO at least include Milos Vujanic and Howard Eisley's expiring contract....

 

[D-Dogg]

There was also a thing where Sac gets kwame, walton and 1st rd. pick for Artest.

That was shot down by the Magoofs.

Bastards.

 

[D-Dogg]

lmao. ESPN just went to "breaking news" just to report that a three-way deal with the Bulls, Kings, and Lakers involving the likes of Ben Wallace, Ron Artest and PJ Brown (in addition to Kobe and Gordon and others) fell through. What a shocker. I can't stand Ric Bucher

Of course. Dumb from the start.


Jim Buss may be an idiot...biggest idiot on the planet even. But he's not THAT big of an idiot.

 

[slinslin]

Tyrus Thomas will be at best a very good role player so this couldn't be even close.

 

[slinslin]

Heres a pretty even deal for the Suns, Lakers and Bulls if a 3way were to go down...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...0~660&teams=13~13~13~21~21~4~21~13~4&te=&cash=

PHX Recieve

Tyrus Thomas
Joakim Noah
Vladimir Ramanovic

PHX Trade

Shawn Marion
Eric Piatkowski
ATL 2008 First Rounder

LAK Recieve

Ben Gordon
Shawn Marion
Chris Duhon
Viktor Khryapa
ATL 2008 First Rounder

LAK Trade

Kobe Bryant
Vladimir Radmanovic

CHI Recieve

Kobe Bryant
Eric Piatkowski

CHI Trade

Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
Joakim Noah
Chris Duhon
Viktor Khryapa

Trade Accepted

No one gets reamed in this deal, everyone goes home happy.

Thats horrible, just horrible. We take Radmanovic and get just Thomas and Noah for Marion and a lottery pick? not even close.

 

[overseascardfan]

How about:

Marion and Banks for Wallace, Noah, & Duhon

Then CHI can trade
Deng, Nocioni & Gordon for Kobe and Kwame.

PHX
Wallace/Skinner
Amare/Diaw
Hill/Thefo
Bell/Barbosa
Nash/Duhon/DJ

CHI
Kwame/Kryhapa (sp??)
Thomas/J. Smith
Marion/Thefo
Kobe
Hinrich/Banks

LAL
Bynum/Mihm
Odom/Nocioni
Deng/Walton
Gordon/Vujacic
Fisher/Famar

 

[green machine]

Tyrus Thomas will be at best a very good role player so this couldn't be even close.

Kind of like Marion, only much much cheaper for the next few years.

 

[devilalum]

How about:

Marion and Banks for Wallace, Noah, & Duhon

Then CHI can trade
Deng, Nocioni & Gordon for Kobe and Kwame.

PHX
Wallace/Skinner
Amare/Diaw
Hill/Thefo
Bell/Barbosa
Nash/Duhon/DJ

CHI
Kwame/Kryhapa (sp??)
Thomas/J. Smith
Marion/Thefo
Kobe
Hinrich/Banks

LAL
Bynum/Mihm
Odom/Nocioni
Deng/Walton
Gordon/Vujacic
Fisher/Famar

Ben Wallace would be useless to the Suns and his contract is obscene.

 

[overseascardfan]

Ben Wallace would be useless to the Suns and his contract is obscene.

He's a guy that rebounds & blocks shots, I agree his contract is bad but 12 million a year is better than 17 million a year. In order to get rid of Banks and Marion and receive Noah & Duhon we need salaries to match.