Choose The Suns Next Head Coach?

[Cheesebeef]

You didn't like that they were giving Majerle an interview in the first place and now you're bashing them for not selling him on the job. There was no way for McD and Sarver to come out ahead with Majerle based on how you judged him as a college coach and them as GM and owner of the Suns. Would you have preferred Majerle be excited about the prospect of coaching the Suns only to be passed over for someone with NBA experience? Like the coaches they've talked about hiring? Majerle is the only exception to the criteria that McD has stated they're looking for. Everyone knew it was a courtesy call and nothing more. I can't blame Majerle for choosing to pass on them before they could pass on him.

all speculation. And again, after doing him dirty last time, they were just giving him a token interview? Yeah... cause that's not insulting either.

bottom line... even IF it was a courtesy call, Majerle STILL told them to screw. And that looks bad no matter how you slice. So even if I take the "courtesy call" at face value, when even the guy we didn't really want says... no thanks... I'd rather be coaching a low-level collegiate program (after making it clear years ago he wanted to be an NBA head coach), that's egg on your face.

Not to mention, they're interviewing guys who DON'T have head coaching experience in the NBA - Igor for one.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You didn't like that they were giving Majerle an interview in the first place and now you're bashing them for not selling him on the job. There was no way for McD and Sarver to come out ahead with Majerle based on how you judged him as a college coach and them as GM and owner of the Suns.

by the way, your entire line of questioning is null and void because the above is complete and utter BS.

I actually NEVER said I didn't want Majerle. Nor did judge him in any way for being a college coach. I said giving him a courtesy call if they weren't really interested was stupid. And I said a little known college coach turning us down looks terrible. And then I said Majerle saying screw in any circumstance looks pathetic. Which it does and it did.

Don't change my argument because you can't make a counter on your own.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think it is pretty myopic to simply assume that you know what is going on in Majerle's head simply because he turned down a job opportunity.

Did the head coach of GCU turn down even interviewing for the suns head coaching job? An NBA head coaching job? One of 32 such jobs in the entire world? That fact. And it’s an ugly fact for te franchise no matter the basis for Majerle’s decision.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Majerle wasn’t taking any NBA job at this time.

Don’t buy that for a second.

 

[GatorAZ]

Don’t buy that for a second.

I mean, if the Warriors or Rockets called...

 

[Chaplin]

Don’t buy that for a second.

So what? It's Majerle. We all can (and will) complain about it when we hire someone who's worse. But if we hire someone who's better? It won't matter one bit that Majerle turned down interviewing. There is history there, after all, regardless of all the "making up" they've allegedly done. He's got a pretty good thing going at GCU.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Don’t buy that for a second.

Me neither.

 

[Cheesebeef]

what I love most of all is that people have been saying the Suns are just giving "courtesy calls" to Majerle... some said the same thing about Blake Griffin. Actually, I KNOW @Poophead said that about BOTH instances. Which is hilarious to me that the Suns... the laughingstock of the NBA is actually in a POSITION to give "courtesy calls" to ANYONE.

When you're one of the worst franchises in sports, if anything, people take interviews as a courtesy to YOU, not the other way around.

 

[Hoop Head]

what I love most of all is that people have been saying the Suns are just giving "courtesy calls" to Majerle... some said the same thing about Blake Griffin. Actually, I KNOW @Poophead said that about BOTH instances. Which is hilarious to me that the Suns... the laughingstock of the NBA is actually in a POSITION to give "courtesy calls" to ANYONE.

When you're one of the worst franchises in sports, if anything, people take interviews as a courtesy to YOU, not the other way around.

I've been over this a hundred times with you and I'm not the only one. Blake did not meet with the Suns. The only indication he was going to meet with them came from his camp, not the Suns front office. When an All-Star says he wants to meet with you about signing there you meet with them. Just go ahead and twist my words and interpret things the way you want to. You've ignored it every other time someone has correct you on this, why would this time be any different? You might ask for me to post an instance of when this happened, and if I did you'd just ignore like you have done with other things you've been wrong about it in the past.

 

[Mainstreet]

You keep saying this -- there was nothing about last season that pointed to ANYONE developing the young players. NOTHING.

Significant minutes were given to Bender, Chriss, Jackson, Ulis and the list goes on. Playing the young players over veterans is a huge step towards developing them. Look how much Jackson improved over the course of the season.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lol... the 180 turn back to Triano has already begun...

It's more like preparing for the possibility Triano may be hired as head coach. A lot of fans are going to be upset if this happens. It will be hard for me to embrace this choice as well. I'd prefer someone like Igor.

However, one thing I want to mention, Triano deliberately played the young players last season. He sacrificed some wins to do this... at the cost of impressing the Suns with his coaching ability. I can't help but think the Suns want to reward him in some manner.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Significant minutes were given to Bender, Chriss, Jackson, Ulis and the list goes on. Playing the young players over veterans is a huge step towards developing them. Look how much Jackson improved over the course of the season.

Yes he played them which is an important element for development. But other than Jackson did you see any development from our other youngs? I didn’t. Ulis late season is explainable as return to health. Chriss is return to last season form. But neither seemed further developed. Nor did bender.

 

[Chaplin]

Yes he played them which is an important element for development. But other than Jackson did you see any development from our other youngs? I didn’t. Ulis late season is explainable as return to health. Chriss is return to last season form. But neither seemed further developed. Nor did bender.

Jackson pretty much ended up being what we thought he should have been at the beginning of the year. That has nothing to do with Triano in my opinion.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yes he played them which is an important element for development. But other than Jackson did you see any development from our other youngs? I didn’t. Ulis late season is explainable as return to health. Chriss is return to last season form. But neither seemed further developed. Nor did bender.

Alec Peters really came on late.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jackson pretty much ended up being what we thought he should have been at the beginning of the year. That has nothing to do with Triano in my opinion.

JJ's year, in the end, went like most of us thought it would go when he was drafted last summer. He would struggle to adjust at first but then progress. He might have improved a little faster than we might have guessed.

 

[BC867]

Off topic, but is anyone else getting a WEBSITE NOT SECURE message in the URL field on the various ASFN boards during the process of logging in?

 

[Mainstreet]

Off topic, but is anyone else getting a WEBSITE NOT SECURE message in the URL field on the various ASFN boards during the process of logging in?

All the time.

 

[BC867]

All the time.

It just started appearing for me. I wonder why.

 

[Mainstreet]

It just started appearing for me. I wonder why.

It's been doing this to me for months. I figured it was a quirk of the browser.

 

[Superbone]

Don't worry about not getting Budenholzer. Bickley said he's not much of an upgrade over Triano:

http://arizonasports.com/story/1510400/despite-coaching-search-robert-sarver-still-fix-image-suns/

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Jackson pretty much ended up being what we thought he should have been at the beginning of the year. That has nothing to do with Triano in my opinion.

I agree with you. But he was the only one who showed improvement over any previous nba performance. So I was acknowledging that. I didn’t attribute it to Triano.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Don't worry about not getting Budenholzer. Bickley said he's not much of an upgrade over Triano:

http://arizonasports.com/story/1510400/despite-coaching-search-robert-sarver-still-fix-image-suns/

Even in trying to somewhat defend sarver that piece is a bad look for sarver. Barkley’s comments confirm our worst sarver fears.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Even in trying to somewhat defend sarver that piece is a bad look for sarver. Barkley’s comments confirm our worst sarver fears.

Let the Barkley bashing from some here commence in 3... 2... 1...

 

[AzStevenCal]

Let the Barkley bashing from some here commence in 3... 2... 1...

I thought about it. I put no credence in anything Barkley ever says and even if I believed him, we have no idea where and when his opinion was shaped. But since it's obvious that Sarver is still a problem, it's difficult to dismiss Chuck's comments.

Even when someone in the media tries to be positive about Sarver, there is always a message about the challenges of dealing with a meddlesome owner. He's improved but it looks like he's still killing us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Where I think Barkley was most on target is him saying the Suns need players more than a coach.