Choose The Suns Next Head Coach?

[sunsfan88]

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Both have below .500 coaching records so Gambo being the usual idiot with his “successful” remark.

Clifford especially would be a bad choice. Hornets fans couldn’t wait till they fired him, horrible in player development and rotations.

 

[Town Drunk]

I wouldn’t mind Fizdale. Wright would be my preference, however.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'd rather see Oliver Miller take over as our head trainer than see Kidd on the Suns bench as their coach. There isn't a worse choice out there. Since he's been mediocre at best as a head coach there is no reason to bring him in.

Only Mark Jackson invokes this kind of response from me. Kidd would be a horrible choice but at least we'd get a lot of French Fry jokes when things went south.

 

[Hoop Head]

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Both have below .500 coaching records so Gambo being the usual idiot with his “successful” remark.

Clifford especially would be a bad choice. Hornets fans couldn’t wait till they fired him, horrible in player development and rotations.

You're taking things way too literal. Fizdale has only coached 1 full season, 101 games in all, with a record of 50-51. Yes, that is a losing record but I don't think anyone would view him as a losing coach because he's lost 51 out of 101 games. He brought Memphis to the playoffs last year and suffered a poor start to this season without Mike Conley and with Marc Gasol throwing him under the bus. The Grizzlies did nothing to help him win this year.

Also Steve Clifford wasn't with the Hornets for a good majority of this season, so their record this year shouldn't count against him entirely. It takes a while to turn a team around and in Clifford's 5 years with the Hornets/Bobcats he brought them to the playoffs a couple of times and had a record of 196-214. Here is a link to a story about Clifford missing time from the team this year because of health issues.

http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-steve-clifford-charlotte-hornets-nba-coaching/

And another article from when he was cleared to return to the bench..
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...ord-cleared-to-return-following-long-absence/

You can dislike the Suns looking at either of them but they've hardly been unsuccessful. I don't like the idea of Clifford because of his health problems. We might as well keep Triano because whoever the lead assistant is will probably see a lot of time filling in for him. Here's a link to Clifford's record and here is a link to Fizdale, each show their time as assistants also but doesn't list the records for the teams they were with as assistants.

 

[sunsfan88]

You're taking things way too literal. Fizdale has only coached 1 full season, 101 games in all, with a record of 50-51. Yes, that is a losing record but I don't think anyone would view him as a losing coach because he's lost 51 out of 101 games. He brought Memphis to the playoffs last year and suffered a poor start to this season without Mike Conley and with Marc Gasol throwing him under the bus. The Grizzlies did nothing to help him win this year.

Also Steve Clifford wasn't with the Hornets for a good majority of this season, so their record this year shouldn't count against him entirely. It takes a while to turn a team around and in Clifford's 5 years with the Hornets/Bobcats he brought them to the playoffs a couple of times and had a record of 196-214. Here is a link to a story about Clifford missing time from the team this year because of health issues.

http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-steve-clifford-charlotte-hornets-nba-coaching/

And another article from when he was cleared to return to the bench..
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...ord-cleared-to-return-following-long-absence/

You can dislike the Suns looking at either of them but they've hardly been unsuccessful. I don't like the idea of Clifford because of his health problems. We might as well keep Triano because whoever the lead assistant is will probably see a lot of time filling in for him. Here's a link to Clifford's record and here is a link to Fizdale, each show their time as assistants also but doesn't list the records for the teams they were with as assistants.

Fizdale is a punk that does things like this

The first thing you learn when you become an NBA coach is to come to an understanding with the team’s elite players,” the above retired lifer stated, “The second is not to pit players against each other. They will take sides, but inevitably will side against the coach.“Fizdale would say stuff about Gasol behind his back to his teammates. By the time, he was ready to say what he had to say in front of the whole team, Gasol already had been alerted.”

https://www.patreon.com/posts/lack-of-probing-15697830

If we’re going that route then I’d rather we go with Mark Jackson.

As for Clifford, sure he missed time this season but he’s been bad as a coach in all but one season as well. Not good at player development nor rotations. Hornets fans have been wanting him gone for a while now because they’ve seen up close and personal how bad he’s been.

 

[Mainstreet]

The big takeaway for me, the Suns search for a coach is going to be more public than I thought.

My initial thought was the Suns had already conducted a number of private interviews and they were making a swift move to hire Budenholzer.

The good news is the Suns are getting quality candidates to interview for the job.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

The big takeaway for me, the Suns search for a coach is going to be more public than I thought.

My initial thought was the Suns had already conducted a number of private interviews and they were making a swift move to hire Budenholzer.

The good news is the Suns are getting quality candidates to interview for the job.

I get the sense that the general reputation of the team isn't nearly as bad as Suns fans will have you believe. That's not to say that we have a good reputation, but ti isn't so poor that players and coaching candidates will avoid us either.

 

[Mainstreet]

I get the sense that the general reputation of the team isn't nearly as bad as Suns fans will have you believe. That's not to say that we have a good reputation, but ti isn't so poor that players and coaching candidates will avoid us either.

It's hard to know because coaches that are willing to interview want to drive up their value. Hopefully they will not use the Suns as a stepping stone. The Suns willingness to pay market value for a head coach helps as well. I want the Suns to do a thorough search so long as they do not wait too long. Good coaches will go quickly.

 

[Bufalay]

I’d like mark Jackson. He could get the suns to the playoffs then they could fire him and hire a real coach.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I’d like mark Jackson. He could get the suns to the playoffs then they could fire him and hire a real coach.

Why not just hire a real coach now?

Mark Jackson is a horrible coach. He is EW all over again.

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow 2m2 minutes ago

Source: Suns will interview former Memphis coach David Fizdale next week.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Igor, Bud or Bust! I'm sure there's others but I'd prefer one of those three.

 

[sunsfan88]

I think if we hire Fizdale, he’s very likely not going to last long here. I can already see him talking crap about Booker/Jackson behind their backs to their teammates and it causing problems in the locker room.

 

[Bufalay]

Why not just hire a real coach now?

Mark Jackson is a horrible coach. He is EW all over again.

I was sort of joking, but he seemed to do a pretty good job turning the warriors into a good defensive team in a short period of time.

 

[Phrazbit]

I was sort of joking, but he seemed to do a pretty good job turning the warriors into a good defensive team in a short period of time.

Then he got fired because he was an organizational cancer, the team won like 20 more games and the NBA title the next year with virtually the same roster.

Someone posted the article about Jackson's downfall with Golden State. Give it a read, I think afterwards you'll join the thinking of 'we might be better off with no coach'.

 

[Chaplin]

The Knicks seem interested in Mark Jackson, but not Jeff van Gundy. I am SO hoping they hire Jackson. Then we don't have to worry about Sarver hiring him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Knicks seem interested in Mark Jackson, but not Jeff van Gundy. I am SO hoping they hire Jackson. Then we don't have to worry about Sarver hiring him.

With you on that one Chap. Jackson is so much a typical Knicks kind of coach.

 

[Errntknght]

Good article on available coaches - some of who are our list

With NBA coaching jobs available, these lesser-known candidates deserve attention | NBA | Sporting News

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Spurs assistant head coach James Borrego may be someone the Suns have interest.

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow


Hearing that San Antonio Spurs assistant head coach James Borrego may be on list of candidates Suns want to interview. Has been assistant with Spurs, Hornets, Magic. Only HC experience 30 games with Magic as interim in 2014-15

2:58 PM - 17 Apr 2018

 

[Mainstreet]

Also the Suns are going to interview Frank Vogel.

Take that Hawks.

John Gambadoro‏Verified account@Gambo987


Suns will interview former Magic coach Frank Vogel in their search for a new head coach.

5:15 PM - 17 Apr 2018

http://arizonasports.com/story/1502...nterview-former-magic-head-coach-frank-vogel/

 

[Chaplin]

Also the Suns are going to interview Frank Vogel.

Take that Hawks.



http://arizonasports.com/story/1502...nterview-former-magic-head-coach-frank-vogel/

Seems like they are interviewing everybody except Jason Kidd. Hooray!

 

[Mainstreet]

Seems like they are interviewing everybody except Jason Kidd. Hooray!

I think it is a good strategy especially if the Hawks want compensation for Bud.

Let the Hawks know there are other fish in the sea.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jerry Colangelo was on Doug and Wolf just a few minutes ago and they were asking him about the Suns coaching candidates. Of course, he could not really bad-mouth any coaches but you could tell which ones he preferred.

1. Spoke very highly of Bud.
2. Said he did not know Fiz very well but has heard good things.
3. Was very lukewarm on Vogel.
4. Said that a team should try to figure out what happened in Milwaukee when considering Kidd. But said Kidd got good experience in Milwaukee which should help him.
5. Spoke highly of Triano and his ability to relate to players and his work ethic.
6. Was not asked about Jeff Van Gundy but on his own injected Van Gundy's name saying that he is a great coach and will likely "land somewhere" as a coach. He noted his ability to work with young players in USA Basketball.

That is about where I was.
1. Bud
2. Van Gundy

Not really interested in the rest.

 

[Hoop Head]

Looks like Stan Van Gundy could be relieved of his coaching duties soon although they may just remove the GM title and keep him as their coach. Here is an article about that...

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2018/04/18/detroit-pistons-svg-tom-gores/522180002/

It's interesting the way the article also mentions the coaching search for the Knicks and the Suns. For the Knicks it lists a few candidates but for the Suns it only says they might get Budenholzer from Atlanta.

Here is their quote...

Reportedly, the Knicks have identified candidates in David Fizdale, Mark Jackson and ex-Piston Jerry Stackhouse.

Stackhouse’s name also came up with the Magic and Hornets.

It appears the Phoenix Suns may lure Mike Budenholzer from the Atlanta Hawks.

 

[Hoop Head]

Also thought I'd update the poll in this thread. People can change their vote if they want and I added Budenholzer as an option. Still limited to 2 choices per person.

Right now
Dave Fizdale has 12 votes
Jay Wright has 24 votes
Monty Williams has 2
Jeff Van Gundy has 3
Mark Jackson has 0
Jason Kidd has 7
Jay Triano has 3
Dan Majerle has 5
"Other" has 7

Didn't want to start it over to add Budenholzer but I'm curious to see if the responses change.