Chriss and Knight traded

[devilalum]

Bordow is speculating that there is another move. There has to be.

Knight and Anderson have 2 years remaining on their contracts--but Anderson's is 5m more per year, and he's 5 years older.

I can't figure it out, but they must like Melton, who went pick 46 in the draft. But they have Okobo already.

Shaq Harrison
Isaiah Canaan
Elie Okobo
De'Anthony Melton

What are the Suns DOING?

If you cant get one good PG then just get a whole bunch of bad ones and hope one rises to the top. Dbacks doing the same thing with catchers.

#firemcdnow


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[Russ Smith]

Essentially they traded 7 mil for Melton. I like him but I doubt he makes an impact for 2-3 years.

@Russ Smith

Which Ryan Anderson the shooter from Sacramento or the kid who played at BC and Arizona? I love Melton but yeah he's not coming in as a rookie and making an impact he was a raw talent to begin with and sat out a year. Melton does is one of these versatile defensive stopper type talents the key for him is improving his shooting. He's also a pretty good passer, he wanted to play PG in college that's actually why he ended up at USC instead of UCLA, with Lonzo and Holiday they wouldn't promise him any minutes at PG so he took SC's offer.

I have heard through the grapevine he worked with a personal shooting coach quite a bit while out suspended and he'd already improved his shot at SC, Enfield is a former NBA shooting coach himself.

I feel bad for Chriss saw him a few times in HS, but not a total shock maybe this is the wakeup call he needs to work harder.

 

[Hoop Head]

I didn't say that the Suns received capspace. I'm pretty strongly against this trade on it's own.

I wasn't expecting much this upcoming season, but with a strong FA class and a lot of space I thought 2019 was when they could make a real push.

Also regardless of how good Melton might be, they just added a fourth rookie to a team that had the worst record.

I read your post and took it the wrong way, Steve already corrected how I perceived it. I wasn't going to go back and delete it though. I tried to clarify a little more in above post about how I felt knowing what you meant. I'm not a fan of this deal, for numerous reasons, and cap space is probably one of the biggest issues, IMO.

This is actually our 5th rookie though, we have King also. So Melton, King, Okobo, Bridges, and Ayton all as rookies entering the year. So much for McD's comments about how we wouldn't be using all of our picks because we didn't need that many young players. I guess another trade can happen but I've lost faith in his ability to make good trades.

 

[devilalum]

Wow
Just saw this. I was at Awolnation last night. Looks like the Suns priority here was to get rid of the two biggest attitude/headcase problems.


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[Folster]

I remember pundits and fans saying there was no way the Suns would add 4 rookies to their roster. They were right. We added 5 rookies to the team with the worst record in the NBA!

Ayton, Bridges, Okobo, Melton, King.

 

[devilalum]

I remember pundits and fans saying there was no way the Suns would add 4 rookies to their roster. They were right. We added 5 rookies to the team with the worst record in the NBA!

Ayton, Bridges, Okobo, Melton, King.

Kings gonna be in NAz but yeah, it’s crazy.


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[SirStefan32]

There has to be a part two to this. Even with Booker being the primary ball handler, they can't possibly roll into the season with Canaan/Harrison/Okobo/Melton PG rotation. The last two are combo guards, Harrison can't shoot, Melton doesn't appear to be a shooter either, and Canaan is a backup. There has got to be part two to this trade.

 

[SirStefan32]

Woj claims that Anderson is gonna start. I am not buying it, but if true, that has to mean Ariza is starting at 3. I wonder if the Suns are trying to create a veteran starting unit.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I look at this trade as dumping garbage. It's a pipe dream that Knight was going to work out, and Chriss has already demonstrated enough negative that I want no part of him.

As far as Anderson goes, he fits the bill of giving Booker another guy who can shoot the three and take some of the scoring load. Melton is the most intriguing prospect in the trade.

The downside? Losing cap space, but money can be freed up other ways as well later.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Woj claims that Anderson is gonna start. I am not buying it, but if true, that has to mean Ariza is starting at 3. I wonder if the Suns are trying to create a veteran starting unit.

I think that was the goal this offseason but I don't know if that's what we're actually doing just yet. I wouldn't be shocked to see us package some picks along with some combination of Chandler, Warren, Melton, Bridges and Anderson to Charlotte for Walker and a couple of horrible contracts (Biyombo, Batum etc).

 

[Chaplin]

Morey has been trying to get out of Anderson’s contract for a long time now, and of course the storyline is that McD is the dumb GM to actually make Morey AGAIN look like a genius.

Not sure why Woj would say it, but Anderson is NOT a starting caliber player and IMO stunts he growth of Bridges and especially Jackson because of the presence of Ariza.

A veteran starting unit means nothing if at least one of those starters is worse than at least two of the bench players, if not three of them.

 

[elindholm]

The downside? Losing cap space, but money can be freed up other ways as well later.

The biggest downside is that it forces Booker to be the primary PG, which we all agreed a month or two ago was a mistake and which the coaching staff was reportedly assuring us wouldn't happen.

Booker has Hall-of-Fame potential at SG. He needs to be given every opportunity to blossom. He can be "fine" as a PG, but that's not the best fit for his skill set. His future is being sacrificed not by the coaching staff, but by the bumbling front office.

Chriss didn't have to be in the deal for salary purposes -- I just checked on RealGM -- so there was no reason to ship him out as part of this trade. Houston got to dump Anderson and upgrade their summer-league combo guard into someone who can be a credible running mate with either Harden or Paul. If the Suns were that desperate to get rid of Chriss, I'm sure they could have found a team willing to give up a pick for him in a straight-up trade.

Utterly incompetent.

And by the way, it appears that Melton isn't even under contract yet.

 

[Raindog]

Morey has been trying to get out of Anderson’s contract for a long time now, and of course the storyline is that McD is the dumb GM to actually make Morey AGAIN look like a genius.

Not sure why Woj would say it, but Anderson is NOT a starting caliber player and IMO stunts he growth of Bridges and especially Jackson because of the presence of Ariza.

A veteran starting unit means nothing if at least one of those starters is worse than at least two of the bench players, if not three of them.

This +++

I don't know if the plan is really to keep Anderson and start him... or have him play some significant role next year. But if it is McD's plan, it's a stupid one.

You set back JJ and Bridges respective developments significantly to give the lion's share of minutes to two marginal (at best) veterans who won't even be with the team in two year's time? Maybe we should start Chandler ahead of Ayton, too?... makes about as much sense.

But in the meantime, we'll win like 4 extra games with the "veteran" lineup, while the younger players struggle to get 18 minutes a night.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm not mad at the trade, I'm just confused. I don't see why we did it. So, it's wait and see for me.

This. Just seems like an odd trade unless something else is in the works. I get the addition by subtraction part of it but the subtraction does you no good unless there are other moves going to bring in someone else waiting in the wings.

 

[slinslin]

the terrible part of this is that we still have to put up with Dragan Bender on the roster, though he hopefully won't see any playing time at all unless we are going back to tanking.

I like Melton but we could have easily just picked him in the 2nd round.

Ryan Anderson can probably help the Suns win and is a fit alongside Ayton but turning Knight into a worse contract while giving up Chriss and keeping Bender is bound to blow up into their face.

 

[slinslin]

He is literally worse than Bender. He is Bender without defense. They MUST be really high on Melton, but they drafted Okobo over him, so that doesn't make sense either.

Ryan Anderson is not worse than Bender.

 

[SirStefan32]

Ryan Anderson is not worse than Bender.

I am sorry your buddy Chriss got traded, Slin. It will be OK, I promise. You'll make it through, even though it seems really rough right now.

 

[slinslin]

I am sorry your buddy Chriss got traded, Slin. It will be OK, I promise. You'll make it through, even though it seems really rough right now.

good to know you are as childish as ever, maybe when you grow up you will be able to produce real arguments

 

[AzStevenCal]

Ryan Anderson can probably help the Suns win and is a fit alongside Ayton but turning Knight into a worse contract while giving up Chriss and keeping Bender is bound to blow up into their face.

They're unrelated issues. Chriss has been disappointing, Bender has been much worse. But Chriss has created problems with his attitude, Bender has no attitude. I believe we're at the point we'd like to move on from both of them but they have little to no value. And moving Chriss has greater urgency than moving Dorothy's Scarecrow.

 

[Mainstreet]

There has to be more to this trade than meets the eye. Another trade has to be in the works. Why would the Suns trade for Anderson.

Anderson has a worse contract than Knight.

 

[slinslin]

They're unrelated issues. Chriss has been disappointing, Bender has been much worse. But Chriss has created problems with his attitude, Bender has no attitude. I believe we're at the point we'd like to move on from both of them but they have little to no value. And moving Chriss has greater urgency than moving Dorothy's Scarecrow.

Chriss attitude? By all we can see on social media he was an integral part of the Suns young core group. Bender on the other hand is basically never found anywhere around his teammates.

 

[Mainstreet]

If Anderson is going to be the starting PF, why did the Suns go after Ariza to be a backup. SMH

 

[slinslin]

If Anderson is going to be the starting PF, why did the Suns go after Ariza to be a backup. SMH

Ariza is probably starting at the 3. Expect Warren to be moved.

 

[Mainstreet]

In Melton the Suns add yet another backup PG.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I predict no major trade after and they run with the young PGs, Anderson is the stretch 4 they have been wanting to add. Knight is dumpster fire bad and Chriss attitude sucks, they took on Anderson bad contract, to move problems off the team.


Good Riddance Knight was trash and Chriss was more trouble than he was worth