Cleveland interested in Amare

[ActingWild]

I will not spend another dime on the Suns while Sarver owns them if Amare for Hickson/Z goes through. It's outright giving the fans a giant middle finger and I will not waste my money supporting that type of management. Sarver/Kerr, I've supported this team for almost 25 years and this is where I draw the line. Keep Amare or get a trade together that isn't designed to mainly save you money, otherwise you're going to destroy your fan base and GOOD LUCK making a profit when we fans stop buying your merchandise and game tickets.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This tends to get overstated. Players chosen at the end of the first round don't make much more than the minimum their first two years (after which they can be cut), and you have to have someone on your roster. So the added expense of a late first-rounder versus an early second-rounder is trivial.

Considering Sarver's strategy regarding first rounders, he'd disagree.

 

[WildBB]

If this trade goes down sans picks OR sans JRich, I'm done. We simply cannot lose Amare and STILL not have a pick in the draft....

I would think it would have transpired allready if Clev. had added their #1. I think like the Gasol deal to the Lakers we should actually get two #1's. Especially since Clev. will mtl re-sign Iglauskus in a month.

That's a fair trade for a championship for Clev.

 

[Sunburn]

If Kerr and Ferry are such good buddies y's Ferry tryin to bend him over so hard? It should at least be a double snake shake, or a 69, or at least an elephant dance shouldn't it?

 

[devilalum]

Bucher

"A Phoenix source refuted reports, fueled by Cavs' sources, that Cleveland has made an offer for Amare Stoudemire and is awaiting the Suns' yes-or-no answer. So why would the Cavs want that out there? Why would they even be considering Stoudemire, since he doesn't fit their overall profile, nor is he the best fit as the "stretch 4" they believe they need. One league source posited a sensible explanation: because this is merely saber-rattling to get the Wizards to deal them the guy they really want, Antawn Jamison. So far, Washington has been looking around for a better deal, although a concrete one has not materialized. The dalliance with Stoudemire is Cleveland's way of saying, 'Don't take us for granted. We may not be here when you get back to us.'"

 

[Mainstreet]

The announcer said tonight at the All-Star game there is no deal pending on trading Amare. Take it for whatever it's worth.

 

[HooverDam]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-notes15-2010feb15,0,2607531.story

Cleveland reportedly close to trade for Amare Stoudemire
Talk has Cavaliers acquiring him from Phoenix in exchange for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson, bolstering the team with the NBA's best record.


Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire, long the speculation of trade rumors around the NBA, might be heading to Cleveland. (Cary Edmondson / US Presswire)
By Ben Bolch
February 15, 2010

Reporting from Arlington, Texas - The balance of power in the NBA may be tilting toward the Eastern Conference, and it has nothing to do with a two-point win in a meaningless All-Star game.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are reportedly closing in on a trade in which they would acquire Amare Stoudemire from the Phoenix Suns in exchange for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson.

If the deal is completed before Thursday's trading deadline, the 6-foot-11 Stoudemire would provide a high-scoring complement to LeBron James and bolster the team with the best record in the NBA.

After scoring 25 points to help the East secure a 141-139 victory over the West on Sunday night at Cowboys Stadium, James said he did not address the trade rumors with Stoudemire.

"That's the last thing I wanted to bring up with him," James said. "He's one of the premier athletes that we have in our game, but you know, we'll see if it happens."

James reportedly would prefer a deal for Washington forward Antawn Jamison, who is averaging 20.5 points and 8.8 rebounds. Stoudemire averages 21.2 points and 8.6 rebounds.

If Cleveland and Phoenix are unable to work out a deal, the Cavaliers reportedly have agreed to acquire Indiana forward Troy Murphy for Ilgauskas and Hickson. The team that picks up Ilgauskas would probably waive him, allowing him to go back to Cleveland in 30 days while providing salary-cap relief.

Let that stew on your brain for a second fellas. If Cleveland can't get Amare that same pacakge will net them Troy Murphy. Our front office is able to get the same for Amare as another is for Troy Murphy. If you didnt think the Suns FO were idiots yet I hope you realize it now.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-notes15-2010feb15,0,2607531.story

If you didnt think the Suns FO were idiots yet I hope you realize it now.

If you didn't think the Suns FO were idiots yet, you haven't been paying attention.

 

[TBaslim]

About the only positives of this train-wreck (if it happens) are:

- Amare has a chance at a title and a big $$ extension before his knees give out. I really hope they don't and he plays a long career injury-free, but the track record is not so good. So, here's to him getting it all accomplished while he can.

- The Cavs load up with Amare, keep Lebron, and beat the damn Lakers for the next few years. It might almost be worth all this if I knew it would keep Kobe and the Lakeshow from winning another title.

Lebron grates sometimes, but he's better than Kobe in my book and the Cavs have never won it all. They are like the Suns of the midwest. As a Suns fan, I'm all about the older franchises that have never won a ring getting it done (especially vs more Lakers, Celtics, Spurs titles).

 

[devilalum]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-notes15-2010feb15,0,2607531.story



Let that stew on your brain for a second fellas. If Cleveland can't get Amare that same pacakge will net them Troy Murphy. Our front office is able to get the same for Amare as another is for Troy Murphy. If you didnt think the Suns FO were idiots yet I hope you realize it now.

Or

Amare's value is roughly equal to that of Troy Murphy. Home team fans are notorious for overvaluing their teams players. When you assess a players value you have to factor in ALL the variables not just the number of All Star appearances.

 

[devilalum]

It might almost be worth all this if I knew it would keep Kobe and the Lakeshow from winning another title.
.

For me this is always a close second to the Suns success.

 

[tobiazz]

Let that stew on your brain for a second fellas. If Cleveland can't get Amare that same pacakge will net them Troy Murphy. Our front office is able to get the same for Amare as another is for Troy Murphy. If you didnt think the Suns FO were idiots yet I hope you realize it now.

This is depressing.

 

[Yuma]

Or

Amare's value is roughly equal to that of Troy Murphy. Home team fans are notorious for overvaluing their teams players. When you assess a players value you have to factor in ALL the variables not just the number of All Star appearances.

Yeah, Amare gets a LOT of points off sweet Nash pick and roll passes. I would like to see how he plays straight up in the Cavs system as a more traditional player.

 

[TBaslim]

Regardless of Hickson, I do hope the Philly trade works somehow, without giving up Barbs.

Iggy would be pretty sick in our system, esp with Barbs still bombing 3's off the bench.

Iggy, Dalembert and Hickson would be very nice value for Amare. But at this point, even Iggy and Dalembert would work, assuming LB is not included.

 

[Chaplin]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-notes15-2010feb15,0,2607531.story



Let that stew on your brain for a second fellas. If Cleveland can't get Amare that same pacakge will net them Troy Murphy. Our front office is able to get the same for Amare as another is for Troy Murphy. If you didnt think the Suns FO were idiots yet I hope you realize it now.

Ignoring recent history, how does this help people "realize it now"? The trade hasn't even happened!

 

[devilalum]

If you believe the rumors it seems like a 3 way deal between Philly, Cleveland, and the Suns would get everybody what they want. But I still can't figure why the Suns would want to trade Amare for Iggy. I like Iguadala but the Suns already have $14 million tied up in a SG. It just make no sense and trading big for small is always a bad idea.

Makes me wonder if we've heard even one legit rumor. There's probably no more than a shed of truth in there somewhere.

 

[Bufalay]

Or

Amare's value is roughly equal to that of Troy Murphy.

Are you serious? Seriously? What the hell are you talking about? What does Murphy do better than Amare? He has a lower career rebounding average. His career FG% is 44.

 

[elindholm]

Are you serious? Seriously? What the hell are you talking about? What does Murphy do better than Amare? He has a lower career rebounding average. His career FG% is 44.

Sure, but everyone knows you're an outrageous homer.

 

[devilalum]

Are you serious? Seriously? What the hell are you talking about? What does Murphy do better than Amare? He has a lower career rebounding average. His career FG% is 44.

He makes $11 million this year and next. He doesn't have a crazy injury history. He doesn't have an awkward opt out issue.

When you assess a players value you have to factor in ALL the variables

 

[Bufalay]

He makes $11 million this year and next. He doesn't have a crazy injury history. He doesn't have an awkward opt out issue.

He also isn't very good. So that's something. Did you know that $11 million is a lot of money? Is he more overpaid than Diaw?

 

[devilalum]

He also isn't very good. So that's something. Did you know that $11 million is a lot of money? Is he more overpaid than Diaw?

I didn't insult your mother or say that Murphy is a better player than Amare I was speaking to the VALUE of each player. I am also frustrated by the way ridiculous deals are made in the NBA due to financial reasons but that is the reality.

 

[HooverDam]

Or

Amare's value is roughly equal to that of Troy Murphy. Home team fans are notorious for overvaluing their teams players. When you assess a players value you have to factor in ALL the variables not just the number of All Star appearances.

Haha right, but there's no way Amare is equal to Troy Murphy. I try to be as unbiased as possible and not view things through purple and oranges glasses but there's no way they have equal trade value.

 

[hcsilla]

He doesn't have a crazy injury history.

Actually, he does, or at least he is not an ironman either.

He doesn't have an awkward opt out issue.

If he had, his value would be higher.


Anyway, right now he is obviously worth significantly less (or should have to be) than Amare.

 

[Town Drunk]

Sources say that Amare Stoudemire has no interest in playing for the Cavaliers, and that the Cavs have started looking at other options.
Antawn Jamison is one of those other options, and while this doesn't mean that Amare is definitely not going to Cleveland, it no longer seems nearly as likely to happen.
Source: The News-Herald

 

[Yuma]

We need a big in return in any trade. A 2 guard isn't going to help us, unless we have another trade lined up. Looks like Amare may stay!