Coaching staff is a joke

[red desert]

We are the most fickle losers in NFL history.

I beg to differ. We are thee most consistent losers in the history of the freakin' nfl.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

ROFL, I KNEW it wouldn't take long for one of these threads to pop up.

 

[SeattleCard]

I still like Whiz. I'm not ready to give up on him. But we sure looked like poo today.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I can't believe anyone would long for the days of Mac, and getting repeatedly blown out on the road 45-3...and losing big at home. This is the most competitive team since the last year of Bugel and 1st couple years of Tobin. Yes, I mentioned Bugel and Tobin in the same sentence...just did it again, too. Does this team have a long way to go, hell yeah, but those that can't see the improvements are either blind or are just refusing to believe.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can't believe anyone would long for the days of Mac, and getting repeatedly blown out on the road 45-3...and losing big at home.

at least I could make a ton of money off those losers.

 

[joeshmo]

Well it means one thing Grimm is in no way going to get a head coaching job next year. Not at this rate. Also was it his good coaching that lead to a good Pitt OL or the fact that he had 3 1st rounders to work with? Or Combo of both?

The fact that Levi wasnt the starter becuase he was practicing half of the time at LT is the lamest excuse I can think of.

Wells hasnt been getting any push at all all season long. Where has he been on all of these supposed counters and pulls, you know the reason why we were told he would work as a OG this time.

I dont think Wiz should be fired at all. Hopefully he learns that in next years offseason workouts he doesnt have to baby his players with cake walk training camp, bowling days, and movie days. Yeah it shows in little injuries but it shows up even more in less smart, and less disciplne.

Also Russ already said it himself but there is something fundamentally wrong with his base offense. Warner looks horid in it, and its no wonder Matt looked just as bad. Cant put my finger on what it is but there is something predictable and uncreative about it. Warner seemed frustrated with the play calling and could that be why Ben in Pitt went into the outs with Wiz?

This is something I never thought I would say, but I like Clancys play calling 10 times more then I do Wiz play calling.

 

[Duckjake]

I can't believe anyone would long for the days of Mac, and getting repeatedly blown out on the road 45-3...and losing big at home. This is the most competitive team since the last year of Bugel and 1st couple years of Tobin. Yes, I mentioned Bugel and Tobin in the same sentence...just did it again, too. Does this team have a long way to go, hell yeah, but those that can't see the improvements are either blind or are just refusing to believe.

I agree its nonsense to compare the team's to those fielded while McGinnis was HC.

But there are valid comparisons to last year's team which lost close games early and were abysmal coming off the bye week and had problems with penalties. Looks to me like those who blamed everything on Denny Green were wrong.

 

[joeshmo]

I agree its nonsense to compare the team's to those fielded while McGinnis was HC.

But there are valid comparisons to last year's team which lost close games early and were abysmal coming off the bye week and had problems with penalties. Looks to me like those who blamed everything on Denny Green were wrong.

Especially considering we are on pace to shatter the amount of penalties and penalty yards we had last year.

 

[ajcardfan]

Especially considering we are on pace to shatter the amount of penalties and penalty yards we had last year.

Well, last year we figured out that Green had secretly been running the defense and coaching Rackers.

Maybe Green is still calling the shots from Del Mar?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

To say that a coach should be fired midway through their first season when their team is in second place in the division just makes you look like an idiot.

this "second place in the division" crap is just that . . . crap. yeah, by the numbers we are one game back in our division. but the truth of the matter is . . . we suck. we are two games under .500. just b/c our division sucks doesn't make this a good team or a good job of coaching. we are a joke. and the coaching is a part of it. i'm not calling for whiz's head, but to rely on the fact that we're "in second place" is a friggin' joke.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Really? We can change the play-calling and preparation next week. All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world isn't going to change the fact that we didn't draft Peterson.

If you can't see the difference then I guess there is nothing more to say.

we can draft mcfadden if we have the chance instead of leonard/levi brown/davis.

there's no difference.

 

[ajcardfan]

this "second place in the division" crap is just that . . . crap. yeah, by the numbers we are one game back in our division. but the truth of the matter is . . . we suck. we are two games under .500. just b/c our division sucks doesn't make this a good team or a good job of coaching. we are a joke. and the coaching is a part of it. i'm not calling for whiz's head, but to rely on the fact that we're "in second place" is a friggin' joke.

The frustrating thing is, we looked so damn good against the Steelers. That was not a fluke win, and they are a legit team. We've completely disintegrated since that point. The Steelers would've beat us by 40 today.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Let me try this one more time. The preparation and play-calling sucked today. There's nothing we can do today, but hopefully the play-calling and preparation will be better next week.

No matter what the organization does, they can't go back and draft Peterson. See the difference?

the scouting and drafting sucked last year. there's nothing we can do today, but hopefully the scouting and drafting will be better next year.

no matter what the organization does, they can't go back and prepare and have better play-calling for the bucs game. see no difference?

 

[joeshmo]

The frustrating thing is, we looked so damn good against the Steelers. That was not a fluke win, and they are a legit team. We've completely disintegrated since that point. The Steelers would've beat us by 40 today.

I think we played way past our ability. Coaches really got the team up for that game and even told the players that they would have extra time off during the bye week if they won that game for them.

Not sure why we cant motivate them like that every week?

 

[moklerman]

About the only thing giving me hope for the Card's at this point is the eventual turnaround of the Saints. Unfortunately, they looked bad early and have turned it around. The Card's looked decent early and have gone bad.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The frustrating thing is, we looked so damn good against the Steelers. That was not a fluke win, and they are a legit team. We've completely disintegrated since that point. The Steelers would've beat us by 40 today.

yeah, that one was so weird. we looked like a legit football team. a good team. was a friggin' mirage.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

About the only thing giving me hope for the Card's at this point is the eventual turnaround of the Saints. Unfortunately, they looked bad early and have turned it around. The Card's looked decent early and have gone bad.

the fact that we're in a reverse trend gives me NO hope. where are you finding yours?

 

[Assface]

the fact that we're in a reverse trend gives me NO hope. where are you finding yours?

His avatar. He followed Warner here.

 

[moklerman]

the fact that we're in a reverse trend gives me NO hope. where are you finding yours?

Don't misunderstand, I'm not predicting anything but if I don't have some tiny sliver of hope then what's the point of watching next week? I don't see how it's going to happen but it's not 100% impossible for the Card's to get back on track. Kicking Whis off of the playcalling seems like a good start.

 

[Assface]

Don't misunderstand, I'm not predicting anything but if I don't have some tiny sliver of hope then what's the point of watching next week? I don't see how it's going to happen but it's not 100% impossible for the Card's to get back on track. Kicking Whis off of the playcalling seems like a good start.

I don't think the play calling is the issue, it's the execution. Wisenhunt's play calling isn't the reason for Warner's interceptions and fumbles. The play calling didn't cause the high passes and dropped balls.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't think the play calling is the issue, it's the execution. Wisenhunt's play calling isn't the reason for Warner's interceptions and fumbles. The play calling didn't cause the high passes and dropped balls.

Yeah, I can see that. But, when Warner is calling his own plays, the offense looks much better.

Maybe defenses are picking up on something in our base O? They seem to know exactly where our WRs and RBs are going and are beating them to the spot.

 

[Assface]

Yeah, I can see that. But, when Warner is calling his own plays, the offense looks much better.

Maybe defenses are picking up on something in our base O? They seem to know exactly where our WRs and RBs are going and are beating them to the spot.

I don't think it's the play calling as much as the D can't get their 1st down run defense off the field when we start passing. When the no huddle offense has been most effective has been when it's used at random times in the game. The D comes out on first down and then is trapped and can't substitute in their pass defense package. That combined with not being able to rotate in DL to keep them fresh.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

every team has a game throughout the year where they absolutely stink. This was the Cards game. The team was flat and played horrendous. Why don't we hold the players accountable. Fitz can't run a straight line. Holt can't break up,or intecept, a sure game changing play. Both players were put in postion to make a difference and they both failed.As a coach all you can do is put the players in position.

 

[Cheesebeef]

every team has a game throughout the year where they absolutely stink. This was the Cards game. The team was flat and played horrendous. Why don't we hold the players accountable. Fitz can't run a straight line. Holt can't break up,or intecept, a sure game changing play. Both players were put in postion to make a difference and they both failed.As a coach all you can do is put the players in position.

if this was that game, what the hell was losing to that embarassing Carolina team?

 

[dogpoo32]

I don't think Whiz should be fired but I do have to admit I'm stunned how bad the base offense is.

I mean in hindsight as bad as Matt looked at times it's pretty obvious now it wasn't all his fault because Kurt is no more comfortable in this offense than Matt was.

I can't put my finger on what it is, but it sucks.

Precisely. There is something wrong with the system. Whis is not going to win as a HC in this league unless he changes. Our team is not the Steelers, and no matter how many of their discarded players we scoop up, we will not succeed under him in this system. He did mess with Matt's head and mechanics. The offensive players are proven performers, but not under him. If I recall correctly, there was a point in the third quarter, maybe later, that we had 0 third down conversions and 35 yards of offense. Whis needs to pull his head out of his ass quick. The playoffs were possible this season, but certainly not if we play like this.