Cousins prefer the Vikes?

[NJCardFan]

Cousins to the Vikings makes them Super Bowl contenders.

They were already Super Bowl contenders.

 

[oaken1]

They were already Super Bowl contenders.

well no...
technically not... they were nfc championship contenders

technicality, I know.... can cousins take them a step further?? I dont think so

 

[NJCardFan]

well no...
technically not... they were nfc championship contenders

technicality, I know.... can cousins take them a step further?? I dont think so

If you're in the NFC Championship game, you're a Super Bowl contender.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Cousins to the Vikings makes them Super Bowl contenders.

That is a good argument.

Cousins would have to win a playoff game 1st to get to the Superbowl, something he has never done.

 

[Cards Czar]

Here are the teams that pick ahead of us except Buffalo that need a QB. The Jets can a pay Cousins a ton of money and still have a bunch of cap space left.

Cleveland - 100.7 M Cap available

NYJets - 79.2 M Cap available

Minnesota - 53.3 M Cap available

Buffalo - 28.7 M Cap available

Denver - 25.9 M Cap available

 

[TRW]

If Teddy's contract gets tolled then I think that they sign Keenum and keep the status quo.

 

[moklerman]

That is a good argument.

Cousins would have to win a playoff game 1st to get to the Superbowl, something he has never done.

If Cousins is really all about winning, then I agree that he'd be wise to choose the Vikings. I have serious doubts that that's what he's motivated by. If the Vikings were wise, they'd save all that money and re-distribute it throughout the stacked team they've already got and just go with a solid QB. If Keenum can take them to the NFCC then they should be able to find a replacement a LOT cheaper than Cousins.

I've already mentioned the Defillipo/Foles connection. What would the Vikings be like with Foles?

 

[WildBB]

Here are the teams that pick ahead of us except Buffalo that need a QB. The Jets can a pay Cousins a ton of money and still have a bunch of cap space left.

Cleveland - 100.7 M Cap available

NYJets - 79.2 M Cap available

Minnesota - 53.3 M Cap available

Buffalo - 28.7 M Cap available

Denver - 25.9 M Cap available

You can add Washington to the list. Is Minnesota picking ahead of us?

 

[DVontel]

You can add Washington to the list. Is Minnesota picking ahead of us?

Why would Washington be on the list when they just extended Alex Smith for 4 years?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Why would Washington be on the list when they just extended Alex Smith for 4 years?

He's still getting old and the team did draft RGIII and KC in the same draft.

Failing to plan is planning to fail.

 

[NJCardFan]

Here are the teams that pick ahead of us except Buffalo that need a QB. The Jets can a pay Cousins a ton of money and still have a bunch of cap space left.

Cleveland - 100.7 M Cap available

NYJets - 79.2 M Cap available

Minnesota - 53.3 M Cap available

Buffalo - 28.7 M Cap available

Denver - 25.9 M Cap available

Both Minnesota and Buffalo pick behind us, however, Buffalo has an extra 1st rounder this season so they can package both of their picks and move up into the top 10. I'd certainly trade #15 for #22 & #23

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I am warming up to the idea of Cousins coming here...the cap will go up and the deal will be okay in a couple years. It may be the best shot a staying competitive for the next 5-7 seasons. I still think Cards should grab a QB in the 2nd round that could actually be groomed if Cousins doesn't work out.

 

[Gandhi]

I am warming up to the idea of Cousins coming here...the cap will go up and the deal will be okay in a couple years. It may be the best shot a staying competitive for the next 5-7 seasons. I still think Cards should grab a QB in the 2nd round that could actually be groomed if Cousins doesn't work out.

You are absolutely correct, LoyaltyisaCurse, and that is one of the biggest reason why I think it would be wise to pursue Cousins. I wrote in another thread why the money doesn’t really matter that much. Though the salary cap is an obvious factor, it is becoming sort of overrated, as I heard someone say the other day.

It’s only been two years since a lot of people were kind of stunned with the new deal to Joe Flacco that made him the highest paid quarterback ever. Now, only two years after that he’s the fifth highest paid quarterback in the league. Not long after him, Andrew Luck became the highest paid, and people wondered how a team could pay one guy that much money and that big a portion of their salary cap. Then Derek Carr surpassed Luck’s contract with his new deal, and barely two months after that Matthew Stafford got a bigger contract than Carr. Now Garoppolo has surpassed them all, and again, remember that all these five contract extensions where agreed to in as short a time span as two years.

In fact, during that period there was also the contract extensions to 37-year-old Drew Brees, making him the fourth highest paid player at that time, the new contract to 36-year-old Carson Palmer, making him the second highest paid player at that time and now 33-year-old Alex Smith has received a contract making him the sixth highest paid quarterback.

I understand that you could argue that all the quarterbacks mentioned above are either proven players or hotshots for the future, and you would probably be right. You could also argue, though, that most of them did not get paid relatively to where they rank among the best quarterbacks in the league, and that it is simply an expensive thing to have even a good-to-very good-but-not-great quarterback.

Since the current CBA was implemented the salary cap has gone up every year. The 2012 salary cap was 120.6 million and then increased to 123 million the next year. In 2014 it jumped to 133 million and in 2015 it was 143.28 million. Last year the cap-ceiling was set at 155.27, and the estimation for next year 174.2 million. As you can see, that’s almost an increase of 55 million in just six years. Also, it’s easy to the guys in the front office to manipulate the salary cap. Whatever Cousins’ salary cap hit will be, it shouldn’t be much of a consideration to us fans.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think I read somewhere the Cards will have $90 million next year (2019), at a minimum. Is that correct?

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[GimmedaBall]

I think I read somewhere the Cards will have $90 million next year (2019), at a minimum. Is that correct?

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Here's the 'Over the Cap' website with everything you need to investigate cap numbers for the NFL:

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Click on the individual teams to see where the cap money is going, how much dead money, etc.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Here's the 'Over the Cap' website with everything you need to investigate cap numbers for the NFL:

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Click on the individual teams to see where the cap money is going, how much dead money, etc.

Yup...almost $90 million next year, with $0 dead money. This screams of draft QB this year, get his feet wet...and start filling major talent gaps next year with the cap $ in FA.

This season may just ba Frankenstein type of roster.

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[oaken1]

You are absolutely correct, LoyaltyisaCurse, and that is one of the biggest reason why I think it would be wise to pursue Cousins. I wrote in another thread why the money doesn’t really matter that much. Though the salary cap is an obvious factor, it is becoming sort of overrated, as I heard someone say the other day.



Since the current CBA was implemented the salary cap has gone up every year. The 2012 salary cap was 120.6 million and then increased to 123 million the next year. In 2014 it jumped to 133 million and in 2015 it was 143.28 million. Last year the cap-ceiling was set at 155.27, and the estimation for next year 174.2 million. As you can see, that’s almost an increase of 55 million in just six years. Also, it’s easy to the guys in the front office to manipulate the salary cap. Whatever Cousins’ salary cap hit will be, it shouldn’t be much of a consideration to us fans.

what success have the Ravens or the Colts had since the paid those guys in the past few years?... its all about ego...every player wants a contract that says he is the best in the league. but teams that show sustained success do not give out those contracts.
Brady works cheap...yes his wife makes money, but the truth is, he has made lots of money too and the guy likes to win...so he plays below market value so the team can add better players.

Last season was the first time Aaron Rodgers cap hit actually hit $20mil... big ben has only gone over 20mil once as well....
some of it is cap magic...the structure of the contract is important... but some of it is that some players do not allow their ego to get in the way of the team winning.

its not all on the players I'm sure... I mean honestly, if a GM approached me with a $30mil a year contract with 70 mil guaranteed,...I would sign it too. I think some GM's do that as a show of confidence... but they are screwing the team in the process.... because LBers and DT's like to get paid too and now that GM is gonna have to hard line the negotiations for those guys.....and suddenly you have no defense.

I think most teams have a chart basically...showing how much they will invest in each position.There stars will get the bulk of that and the other guys split whats left... so if say you have 28mil slotted for the QB position...if you then spend that entire 28mil on a single guy,...all of your backups have to be league minimum guys or rookies....otherwise it affects how competitive you can be at other positions

 

[GimmedaBall]

Yup...almost $90 million next year, with $0 dead money. This screams of draft QB this year, get his feet wet...and start filling major talent gaps next year with the cap $ in FA.

This season may just ba Frankenstein type of roster.

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Conspiracy Theory Alert:

Which also indicates that SK was looking at 2018 as the year to draft that FQB and then bring in the FAs to support him as the new QB took over for CP.

CP, Fitz, BA were all signed for 2018. When CP decided he had enough, it prompted BA to also retire as compared to facing 2018 without a legit QB. SK did not bring in a QB via draft for BA and his old school coaches to play with in spite of BA's public pleas for a QB in each draft. SK gets holding the bag with no CP, no BA, and no FQB.

Fitz returns to get to at least the #2 WR position behind Jerry Rice and to enhance his legacy.

 

[oaken1]

Conspiracy Theory Alert:

Which also indicates that SK was looking at 2018 as the year to draft that FQB and then bring in the FAs to support him as the new QB took over for CP.

CP, Fitz, BA were all signed for 2018. When CP decided he had enough, it prompted BA to also retire as compared to facing 2018 without a legit QB. SK did not bring in a QB via draft for BA and his old school coaches to play with in spite of BA's public pleas for a QB in each draft. SK gets holding the bag with no CP, no BA, and no FQB.

Fitz returns to get to at least the #2 WR position behind Jerry Rice and to enhance his legacy.

dont let next years cap space fool ya...we only have about 15 players under contract. the entire team needs to be signed. They will do some of that this year so we will see lots of that cap space disappear.

 

[Solar7]

dont let next years cap space fool ya...we only have about 15 players under contract. the entire team needs to be signed. They will do some of that this year so we will see lots of that cap space disappear.

All the more reason we need to hold onto our draft picks this year. The belly of the roster needs to be filled with young, cheap guys, not overpaid free agents.

 

[JeffGollin]

I understand the logic of trying to sign Cousins.

So why (trade vs. FA pickup notwithstanding) does this whole thing have the distinct aroma of the Kevin Kolb deal?

 

[Solar7]

I understand the logic of trying to sign Cousins.

So why does this whole thing have the distinct aroma of the Kevin Kolb deal?

Foles is the only one who makes me think Kolb.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Foles is the only one who makes me think Kolb.

Lol, yes out dueling Brady in the Superbowl setting a record for passing yards and being named superbowl MVP just screams Kevin kolb! Kevin Kolb couldn't even when a regular season game.

 

[Ronin]

Matt Miller
@nfldraftscout

Kirk Cousins' odds, per @BovadaLV Jets 2/3
Broncos 7/4
Cardinals 15/2
Bills 12/1
Jaguars 12/1
Dolphins 20/1
Giants 20/1

 

[Solar7]

Lol, yes out dueling Brady in the Superbowl setting a record for passing yards and being named superbowl MVP just screams Kevin kolb! Kevin Kolb couldn't even when a regular season game.

Kevin Kolb also never put together two full seasons as the starter while throwing for more INTs than TDs.

I'm sorry, but Foles had three good games in five starts. I applaud him for his performance, but Foles has shown multiple times that he's not a true starter. He's a backup that can get hot.