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The fans at BOB seem to be much more subdued than years past. Could this be from thir poor start? Even when they get something going, man in scoring position,gettting 2 strikes on the opposing batter, 3 balls to our batter, the crowd seems to stay real quiet. It seeems that the enthusiasim has left the hometown crowd.

Also the turn for the last 4 games has been faily low.

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Also the turn for the last 4 games has been faily low.

Well they were playing that crowd pleasing juggernaut Florida Marlins :)

Yes, I have noticed that the crowds have been light, pretty soon they are going to have to start pumping in fake crowd noise. Damn fair weather fans!
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
Well they were playing that crowd pleasing juggernaut Florida Marlins :)

Yes, I have noticed that the crowds have been light, pretty soon they are going to have to start pumping in fake crowd noise. Damn fair weather fans!

Last night the Suns were also playing across the street so I imagine that didn't help. The crowds pick up after school lets out so the kids do more night games (alot of teams see increases after school lets out for the year). While there are likely some who are not coming because the Dbacks are struggling a bit, I cannot imagine their numbers would dramatically change what we are seeing.

Add to all that the economic environment which will have an effect and this is where we are.

The interesting thing would be to compare numbers last year at this time vs this year. Also a comparison between when they played the Marlins last year vs this year.
 

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I don't think you have to look much futher than the D'backs' record to figure out why the crowds have been light. Also, historical data could be inaccurate because crowds seem to be higher on weekends and when Randy or Curt is pitching :thumbup:
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
I don't think you have to look much futher than the D'backs' record to figure out why the crowds have been light. Also, historical data could be inaccurate because crowds seem to be higher on weekends and when Randy or Curt is pitching :thumbup:

While I am not in the mood to look right now, it would still be an interesting study. There may only be a 10% difference when the Big 2 pitch depending on the opponent.
 

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Originally posted by az240zz
The fans at BOB seem to be much more subdued than years past.

I hope this doesn't mean the PA announcer Jeff Munn will soon be doing his cheerleading schtick at the BOB like he has been for the Suns the past couple seasons. Especially during the recent playoff games. His constant pleading to the crowd to stand up and cheer or bang our Thundersticks drove me up the wall.
 

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I read that attendance is down 10-20% EVERYWHERE, even places like Seattle, over last year.

And I would disagree about the crowd at BOB being subdued - it has seemed to me to be more atuned to and smart about what's happening in the game, and except for a few games, more people stay right to the end. We booed loudly tonight, anyhow. But if the team keeps frustrating the bejeezus out of us by throwing away very winnable games like last night and tonight, attendance will certainly not get better.

God what I wouldn't give for just a little more offense with RISP. 0--for-9!! that's just inexcusable.
 

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I believe he was referring, not so much, to the numbers in attendance, moreso the lack of passion and activity by the crowd.

I do not, for one, find it unusual. it is merely typical of Phoenix sports crowds, in general.

Listen to the games on TV, I mean LISTEN, not watch...and listen closely to the level of crowd noise, the tone of that noise, tec...then switch channels, LISTEN to the noise level and the tone of the noise at games being played in other venues. it is very, very different.

And, this applies, not only to the D-Backs, but the Suns and Coyotes too.

Crowd noise at local sporting events is, for the most part, very subdued, and very high pitched (almost soprano) compared to crowd noise at other locations.

It must be rubbing off from Mercury games.

And, I have noticed, also, that the majority of the people sitting in the lower sections at BOB appear to be bored, looking at most other locations except the field, itself.

Maybe they are looking for their stock broker.

Most of the above, of course, does not apply to Rattler games.

There you have, in large numbers, average people, average fans, hard working blue collar people, not the corporate crowd, not the elite types who go to games to be seen....

Rattler fans are hard core, they care, they yell, cheer, make a lot of noise, bounce balls around the stands, jump up and down, and even fall onto the field and, no one cares if someone stands up in front of you.

And, when they make noise, the sound like sports fans, not the high pitched , soprano sound eminating from D-Back and Suns games..... And, they know the rules of the game.
 
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Originally posted by Rattler Rod
I believe he was referring, not so much, to the numbers in attendance, moreso the lack of passion and activity by the crowd.

I do not, for one, find it unusual. it is merely typical of Phoenix sports crowds, in general.

Listen to the games on TV, I mean LISTEN, not watch...and listen closely to the level of crowd noise, the tone of that noise, tec...then switch channels, LISTEN to the noise level and the tone of the noise at games being played in other venues. it is very, very different.

And, this applies, not only to the D-Backs, but the Suns and Coyotes too.

Crowd noise at local sporting events is, for the most part, very subdued, and very high pitched (almost soprano) compared to crowd noise at other locations.

It must be rubbing off from Mercury games.

And, I have noticed, also, that the majority of the people sitting in the lower sections at BOB appear to be bored, looking at most other locations except the field, itself.

Maybe they are looking for their stock broker.

Most of the above, of course, does not apply to Rattler games.

There you have, in large numbers, average people, average fans, hard working blue collar people, not the corporate crowd, not the elite types who go to games to be seen....

Rattler fans are hard core, they care, they yell, cheer, make a lot of noise, bounce balls around the stands, jump up and down, and even fall onto the field and, no one cares if someone stands up in front of you.

And, when they make noise, the sound like sports fans, not the high pitched , soprano sound eminating from D-Back and Suns games..... And, they know the rules of the game.

Nobody gives a **** about the Rattlers crowds. They are exciting to watch, but these are two completely different games. If you love the Rattlers so much, which it appears you do, just stick to their part of this board. You go to every other part and bash something about that team. It is just plain dumb.

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Not bashing, my friend. Just making for some good conversation.
 

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Originally posted by Rattler Rod
Not bashing, my friend. Just making for some good conversation.

Yes, good conversation. That would be evident on the thread you started on the Suns board. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Selective breeding

Management doesn't want a loud rowdy crowd they want a family atmosphere. If you get too rowdy the ushers pay you a visit.

In the real world rattlesnakes who rattle get killed leaving the ones that dont rattle to pass their passive rattle genes onto the next generation.
 
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I was refering to the noise of the crowd. It seems that they think it is wrong to cheer or yell or make any noise at all unless the scoreboard tells them to. Also why did most of the crowd leave at 5:00 PM. It was strange to see so many people leave while the game was tied.

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What's so unusual about that? This city has the latest arriving fans and the earliest leaving fans in professional sports. It happens everywhere, at every sporting event in this town.

I remember, as a kid, and then as an adult, going to games an hour, or more, early, just to get the smell of the arena, or the ballpark...and to watch the field being made ready, or the rink being scraped and frozen, then to watch the players come out, loosen up, take pre game warmups, etc.....

Matter of fact, I still do.

Now, in this city, if a game is scheduled for 1PM, most fans (I have a hard time calling them fans) arrive about 1:15, or later.....

There's no passion for the games in this town, hardly any, at all.
 

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Originally posted by Rattler Rod

Listen to the games on TV, I mean LISTEN, not watch...and listen closely to the level of crowd noise, the tone of that noise, tec...then switch channels, LISTEN to the noise level and the tone of the noise at games being played in other venues. it is very, very different.

Yeah, this is a real sound way to judge a crowd. I wonder if different microphone levels, locations of press boxes, or quality of feeds would have any effect?

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And, they know the rules of the game.


I guess we'll never be as savvy as say St. Louis fans who are widely considered the most knowledgeable fans around. I loved the way they screamed and booed for Mantei to get kicked out after hitting Drew in the ninth. How anyone could think for a minute that he was trying to hit him on purpose in that spot is beyond me...let alone the most knowledgeable baseball fans around.
 

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Yeah, this is a real sound way to judge a crowd. I wonder if different microphone levels, locations of press boxes, or quality of feeds would have any effect?



I guess we'll never be as savvy as say St. Louis fans who are widely considered the most knowledgeable fans around. I loved the way they screamed and booed for Mantei to get kicked out after hitting Drew in the ninth. How anyone could think for a minute that he was trying to hit him on purpose in that spot is beyond me...let alone the most knowledgeable baseball fans around.
It's NOT that many were "ignorant"... but ALL fans will scream for ANY advantage that will be in favor of the home favorites!
 

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IMO, discussions about who's "fans" are better or what a "real fan" looks like are the lowest common denominator in sports conversation. They are usually used by people who have no real insight to the actual game on the field so they turn their aggression to the fans in the crowd.

There is usually talk about "class structure" as if by making "x" amount of $'s makes me inelligable to cheer or support my team. There is talk of the "average person" as if being average is a virtue. You're a ******* if you don't know as much as "the average person" and you're an obsessed geek if you know more.

It's the Bill Simmons mentality.
 

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Originally posted by DWKB
IMO, discussions about who's "fans" are better or what a "real fan" looks like are the lowest common denominator in sports conversation. They are usually used by people who have no real insight to the actual game on the field so they turn their aggression to the fans in the crowd.

Well said! This should be an official board policy!
 

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DWKB, on this one I totally agree with you, and you put it better and more completely than I've seen before. Big points!!
 

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Nah, he's wrong. Take a good, hard look, at those so-called corporate fans who occupy the expensive seats.

For the most part, they arrive late, leave early, spend most of the time, while the game is going on, looking at the scoreboard, talking to their neighbors, or just not giving a hoot about the game, itself.

They are there to be seen, moreso than to see the game, or to entertain some business client or to look good, or to give the tickets to the wife and her girlfriends so she can rave about being at BOB the next morning at the hairdresser.

Yes, there is a big difference, and it is more evident at Phoenix venues than most other venues in baseball, basketball, and now , Hockey.

Yeah, they are fans, but they are passionless fans.....

And, management loves them, cause management doesn't care if the seats are filled with bodies, as long as they are paid for.
 

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Originally posted by Rattler Rod
What's so unusual about that? This city has the latest arriving fans and the earliest leaving fans in professional sports. It happens everywhere, at every sporting event in this town.

Have you gone to a sporting event out side of Phoenix? Talk about late arrivals and early leaver then you have to put LA fans at the top,at Cheves Ravine it is the 2nd inning before you notice the park filling up and at the old Forum it is mid 1st quarter and the tradition is carried over to The Staples Center.So what if they are not as passionate as you,it is a small percentage. So don't let a few ruin your enjoyment.
 

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Everyone has their own opinions on everything. Often, stereotypes about other groups have a basis in "truth." But we're talking about an emotional issue: sports fan passion. It's a legitimate and fun topic to discuss--but I think it silly to imply one has anything "factual" to say about fans. Then we like to compound these emotional observations by comparing them to memories of an idealized past. :rolleyes:

I can do it too by taking shots at Wrigley Field. "When I was a kid," our high-pitched chants of "we want a hit" vs "we want an out" showed we knew which team was up. Now the tourists visiting the "baseball museum," and yuppies "entertaining clients" use it as a sunshine, beer garden. Everyone is on a cell-phones, apparently to be reminded when "Sammy" is going to bat. They leave tied games in the 7th after he's had his 4th AB, satisfied they saw him do his hop earlier in the game (I missed it because I was getting some lousy food under the stands, and there aren't TV's, and there sure isn't a jumbo-tron).

That was fun to complain about. Oh yeah, I bet it'll change a little if they actually have a chance to win. Then we'll get the stories of loyal Cubs fans who have suffered since 1908 or 1945. Suffered in silence is more like it.
 
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