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Agreed, give him NOTHING!
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Agreed, give him NOTHING!
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I think he's either 7th or 8th in the NL for RBI's...
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And no RBI's. His heart-of-the-order potential is too great to bat him leadoff.
C'mon AJ Pollock. Come back and claim your leadoff spot.
By then, Hill will have probably gone back into his funk and Peralta can claim his role.
I see that Cahill got shelled again today (Wednesday).
Maybe Peralta can go back to pitching and claim Fatty's spot. 'Just kidding, just kidding!
And no RBI's. His heart-of-the-order potential is too great to bat him leadoff.
C'mon AJ Pollock. Come back and claim your leadoff spot.
By then, Hill will have probably gone back into his funk and Peralta can claim his role.
I see that Cahill got shelled again today (Wednesday).
Maybe Peralta can go back to pitching and claim Fatty's spot. 'Just kidding, just kidding!
And scored both times - hit in by Hill - that is what SHOULD be happening.
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Cahill is toast and we will be eating whatever the remaining $$ are on that HORRENDOUS contract...
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Trumbo stinks. Most of us knew what they were getting. Angels won that trade.
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Cahill is toast and we will be eating whatever the remaining $$ are on that HORRENDOUS contract...
Granted 3 ER in 4 innings is not good but the the other 4 during his watch were unearned. Trade him to the AL, it works for some. (and send $$$$ of course).
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Those 4 unearned are very misleading. Hill made an error and after that, Cahill got shelled. He pitched 4 innings and gave up 8 hits - all of which were screaming line drives. He sucks and in the AL he would suck more as he wouldn't be able to rely on getting a pitcher out very 2-3 innings...
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So if Hill had not made the error... All stats can be misleading, but they are what they are.
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No... If Hill had not made the error, Cahill would've continued to get shelled the next inning...
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Time for Cahill to become a $12 million waste of a roster spot in the bullpen. And he can take Nuno with him.
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No... If Hill had not made the error, Cahill would've continued to get shelled the next inning...
Perhaps, but that is not the way it always works.
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It looks that way. Although when the season started and he had a regular assignment, he was doing what he was brought here to do -- HR's and RBI's.
Now that he is back and caught up in the revolving outfield . . . well, some players can't turn it on and off when they look at the lineup card to see if they are on it. When AJ Pollock comes back, it would be even tougher.
It is not just the position players who come here and have trouble establishing themselves.
Here in an insightful article about the pitchers. The ones who have left get better and the ones who come here get worse.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...bad-pitching-luck-really-about-luck/13031973/
And here is an interesting article from todays AzCentral/AzRepublic about how the D-backs need a complete overhaul and players getting better when they leave, which Tony LaRussa is aware of. I take that as an evaluation of the coaching staff, as well.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...zona-diamondbacks-complete-overhaul/13031737/
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It is funny that McCarthy is trashing the DBacks because they limited the use of his cutter yet they were hitting his cutter at a .315 clip.
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All you have to do is look at his career numbers and that is why I was so against trading Skaggs for him. He might of gotten off to a really good start but most of us knew his numbers would drop to where is career numbers are at. They should of just signed Mark Reynolds and put him in left, would of made no difference except Skaggs would still be a Diamondback.
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Outside of the first couple days Trumbo has sucked all year. Before his injury (and getting stuck in the revolving outfield) he was battling the Mendoza Line.
And really, he should be in the revolving door in the OF. He is our worst fielder, not only in the outfield but on the club, he is also one of the worst guys on our team at getting on base.
Trumbo is basically a poor man's Adam Dunn, only without the walks... and the walk rate is the only reason Dunn has managed to stick around.
We really need to ship him off to an AL team, he has no use here. Sadly I would expect he is worth next to nothing on the trade market. Its unfathomable that 6 months ago we gave up a potential ace AND a legit leadoff hitter, both under 25 years old, to get this turd.
And really, he should be in the revolving door in the OF. He is our worst fielder, not only in the outfield but on the club, he is also one of the worst guys on our team at getting on base.
Trumbo is basically a poor man's Adam Dunn, only without the walks... and the walk rate is the only reason Dunn has managed to stick around.
We really need to ship him off to an AL team, he has no use here. Sadly I would expect he is worth next to nothing on the trade market. Its unfathomable that 6 months ago we gave up a potential ace AND a legit leadoff hitter, both under 25 years old, to get this turd.
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I think the article said hitters hit .279 against his cutter...
Nonetheless , the two articles above are spot on - even the reference to Upton and how he hasn't changed and how he recently pissed of his coaches by walking to first base late in a game instead of running hard...
The franchise needs a complete turnover from top to bottom. I respect how Gibby is keeping the team engaged and they are still fighting...for nothing though...
LaRussa has no other option. I gotta believe he is spending day and night cooking up his grand scheme. Can't wait to see what he has in store for this team!
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Now that the All Star break has passed, it looks like LaRussa will wait until the season ends to clean house -- Manager, Bench Coach, Pitching Coach, Hitting Coach and inconsistent aging players.
For many reasons, that is the best approach. I just hope that Gibson's lack of skill in building confidence in ballplayers, the Press or fans won't do permanent damage to the young players on the team during the rest of the season.
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I don't see why ARZ seems intent on not dealing Martin Prado. Supposedly ARZ has taken him off the market despite there being interest from other clubs. Supposedly, ARZ likes the fact that he's under contract for another couple years but with Lamb really having a great year in AA & Brandon Drury (part of the Upton deal) having a good year in A ball, I would at least listen to what teams are offering.
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It is sad when we don't even know who is making those decisions?
Is it Kevin Towers, who has a job waiting for him with the Padres?
Is it Tony LaRussa, the CEO of baseball operations?
Is it Ken Kendricks, the managing general partner?
And is the plan for next season all being coordinated?
From our Manager and coaching staff right up to the top, we appear dysfunctional. 'Hardly a position of power when dealing with other teams.
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Absolutely!!!!
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Maybe it's because of what he did the 2nd half of last season. He arguably had a better second half than Goldy (it was close). He is hitting 315 with a 764 OPS in the last 14 days. He plays multiple positions too. As for me, I still say trade him for a starting pitcher or one of our other positions in need, and bring up Lamb soon. But, I'm not the guy in charge.
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Does anyone here really believe that Kevin Towers could come out ahead if he dealt Martin Prado?
The emergence of Peralta and Pollock has made one of the three veteran outfielders (Ross, Trumbo, Parra) expendable. Of the three Parra is the most appealing to other teams.
The emergence of Peralta and Pollock has made one of the three veteran outfielders (Ross, Trumbo, Parra) expendable. Of the three Parra is the most appealing to other teams.
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Ross is a DFA waiting to happen. Trumbo IMO is the one who needs to be traded, we wont get anywhere near the value we gave up to get him, but he cant play in the NL.
As for coming out ahead dealing Prado... Towers loses every trade. The first move we need to make is firing him. I cant believe LaRussa has not done it already, it really makes me nervous that he is buying into the utter BS that what killed this roster was injury... opposed to an assortment of trades that gutted the talent and awful signings that exploded the payroll.
As for coming out ahead dealing Prado... Towers loses every trade. The first move we need to make is firing him. I cant believe LaRussa has not done it already, it really makes me nervous that he is buying into the utter BS that what killed this roster was injury... opposed to an assortment of trades that gutted the talent and awful signings that exploded the payroll.
