Dbacks vs. Rockies series thread

[ArizonaSportsFan]

"Talk about a fighter," Arizona manager Bob Melvin said. "He was out there without a hit, and to go that long and not have a hit, that's hard."

That quote by Melvin cracks me up - and no, not because it was about Gonzo, but because it described half the team. So the team is a fighting team because no one had a hit? Talk about turning weak offensive production last night into a positive attribute.

 

[Stallion]

Good heavens. At least we won the dang thing.

Could someone please remind our hitters that this is Coors Field?

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Nope, just a looooong game of swinging and missing - and not seeming to care about missing other than Jackson would show some emotion. Byrnes was also showing emotion but then again he got a couple of hits... So I am not sure why the :roll eyes: is warranted here, as the game was not a gem by any stretch of the imagination, even though it was 2-1 in 18. The bullpens were good - in particular for the DBacks Valverde was solid - but the hitters had a huge say in that. Flat pitches down the middle, hanging sliders, you name it, were there for the taking from both sides and were either fouled off or weakly popped-up.

Yes, you already made that point already. Repeatedly. Nobody is arguing that last night was an offensive masterpiece, but that kind of thing is bound to happen every now and then, its a long season. The fact is they still managed to get the win and gain some ground in the playoff race, and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. There's no reason to get all worked up over every tiny little thing like you did in the series thread last night.

 

[FinleyLover]

Well even when there were hits, they ususally were pop ups, or fly balls that ended short of the warning track. Something must be up with the air in Denver right now- heavier than normal or something...

 

[devilfan02]

Last nights game was crazy! There were good things- obviously the bullpen, and some bad things- the offense. We were swinging wildly for the fences (which led to too many KO's) in the extras, primarily the young guys, but thats part of the learning process. Valverde was impressive in his return but I still think that if he doesn't learn to throw a second pitch he will have an extremely inconsistent (or short) MLB career. If his location is off with his fastball he either gets rocked or gets wild.

Was it just me or was the umps strike zone absolutely horrible last night? I've never seen such a horribly called game. It's like he wanted to get out of there and started ringing guys up on balls. The called third strike on Tracy in the 12th or 13th should get that ump suspended for the rest of the season. I threw the remote control at the wall when he called that a strike

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Yes, you already made that point already. Repeatedly. Nobody is arguing that last night was an offensive masterpiece, but that kind of thing is bound to happen every now and then, its a long season. The fact is they still managed to get the win and gain some ground in the playoff race, and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. There's no reason to get all worked up over every tiny little thing like you did in the series thread last night.

I appreciate what you are saying. I don't post in many series threads, but I was having a running dialog of sorts with phxchris. It makes the board a little more fun, imo, to have a commentary during the game itself. It feels more like a fan forum instead of a sterile, single comment after the game. But that's just my opinion. If the game were different, the content of the posts would certainly be different as well. I won't be able to watch tonight's game, so I will come here after the game and see the reaction, if any.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

The called third strike on Tracy in the 12th or 13th should get that ump suspended for the rest of the season.

It was awfully inconsistent, I do agree. As far as suspension, naw. There are worse calls in a lot of games. I think he felt that Tracy should have been out two pitches earlier (and Tracy knew it as well when you see his facial reaction to "striking out" on the called ball) and was giving the pitcher a huge benefit of the doubt.

I threw the remote control at the wall when he called that a strike

I am not nearly that passionate about baseball. Now a Suns game, perhaps...

 

[devilfan02]

It was awfully inconsistent, I do agree. As far as suspension, naw. There are worse calls in a lot of games. I think he felt that Tracy should have been out two pitches earlier (and Tracy knew it as well when you see his facial reaction to "striking out" on the called ball) and was giving the pitcher a huge benefit of the doubt.



I am not nearly that passionate about baseball. Now a Suns game, perhaps...

I was being slightly sarcastic when I said the ump should be suspended. He should get called into the league office at the very least however.

Your view on why he called Tracy out is garbage. If that was the case, then the ump should def be suspended. Why would a ump call a batter out on a horrible pitch because "he thought he should have been out a couple pitches earlier?" There's no benefit of the doubt when calling balls and strikes, the pitch is either in the zone or not. Tracy facial expression came after he threw the bat and nearly got ejected because it was such a horrible call. No way around it

As for some posters not liking your tone, don't worry about. I will say that after reading your posts you were a bit repetitive and overly negative but thats your view. You were in a running dialogue with another member on the series thread which is what it's supposed to be used for. We need more running dialogue during games and hopefully you will post during a more entertaining game so we can get a different view from you. Overall, last night was frustrating but we got a hard fought win

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

There's no benefit of the doubt when calling balls and strikes, the pitch is either in the zone or not.

Tell that to batters facing Greg Maddux in his prime...

As for some posters not liking your tone, don't worry about. I will say that after reading your posts you were a bit repetitive and overly negative but thats your view. You were in a running dialogue with another member on the series thread which is what it's supposed to be used for. We need more running dialogue during games and hopefully you will post during a more entertaining game so we can get a different view from you. Overall, last night was frustrating but we got a hard fought win

I am generally pretty positive and protective of my teams. The game was depressing - other than seeing Valverde come back string - to me and I guess I let that out through the thread.

 

[devilfan02]

Tell that to batters facing Greg Maddux in his prime...



I am generally pretty positive and protective of my teams. The game was depressing - other than seeing Valverde come back string - to me and I guess I let that out through the thread.

"In his prime" being the key words. Ever since the MLB installed (whatever it's called, the machine that Curt Schilling destroyed) the machine that rates the umpires on how their calling the games, that era ended. An ump is now forced to call fair games or else their given the pink slip.

I'm sure you are more positive and last night was frustrating. However, wins like that can spur a team to a hot streak. Confidence booster no matter how bad our offense was

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

I was too negative last night and I apologize to those on this thread. I went back and read and I obviously vented too strongly. Perhaps I should stay away during the Suns season...

Tonight should be a better game. Who will sit - Quentin or Jackson?

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

I appreciate what you are saying. I don't post in many series threads, but I was having a running dialog of sorts with phxchris. It makes the board a little more fun, imo, to have a commentary during the game itself. It feels more like a fan forum instead of a sterile, single comment after the game. But that's just my opinion. If the game were different, the content of the posts would certainly be different as well. I won't be able to watch tonight's game, so I will come here after the game and see the reaction, if any.

I agree that commentary during the game is a benefit to ASFN; I hope and encourage that you and everybody else continue to do so. Passion in sports is a good thing, but I simply ask that people do not let it get the best of them and that they keep in mind the big picture so posts do not become overly negative in tone. There is certainly a time and a place for venting or calling out players and the team for poor performances, but let's all remember that we're here to have a good time and partake in interesting discussions.

 

[Phxchris1989]

Wow, the umpire tonight is just as bad. Look at the called first strike on Gonzo in the third inning, it was almost a foot to the right of the plate.

I think I love this Byrnes guy! he comes through AGAIN, this time to tie it up.

Edit: Quentin throws out another guy going to second base from right field! this guy is amazing!

 

[AZZenny]

YEEEHAAA! CARLOS QUENTIN! Stephen DREW! BABY BACKS RULE AGAIN!!

 

[Ryanwb]

Drew batting leadoff.... finally!

 

[Phxchris1989]

Homerun Shawn Green!! keep adding runs D'backs! keep it going!


Stephen Drew, yet again, comes through and scores another run 4-2, snakes!

 

[mjb21aztd]

Yup so far looking good like the fact our offense is coming through after a long long long game last night this would be a big win GO DBACKS

 

[AZZenny]

Innings Eater!

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Nice game. Not even I can nitpick much tonight . Livan chewed up some innings although he seemed like he stopped caring much in the seventh. Melvin made a good move in yanking him even after the two outs.

Also, the lineup tonight looked much better. Byrnes can put some energy in later in the lineup and Drew is good up front. Glad to see Q get of the snide a little and some lights out defense in right!!!!

 

[Phxchris1989]

I didn't get too see the last few innings, after the 7th I had to go to Fry's and grab some things. Good too see that we won the game though.

 

[Stallion]

Quentin throws out another guy going to second base from right field! this guy is amazing!

That was a missile. Back to back nights!

Good to see that Tommy John surgery works on outfielders too.

 

[Lefty]

5-0 Rockies in the bottom of the 2nd. Hopefully there is nothing wrong with Webb.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

5-0 Rockies in the bottom of the 2nd. Hopefully there is nothing wrong with Webb.

This is pretty unsettling.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Webb was due a stinker, although Tracy's two-run throwing error in the first did not set a good tone.

 

[devilfan02]

I'm getting sick of Tracy, his mental lapses cost us nearly every series