DCU: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

[carrrnuttt]

I had heard that, too. How embarrassing that BvS is being outperformed by a country mile by Deadpool. How dreadfully, dreadfully embarrassing.

It goes to show you: Stick with the material. Don't try to get too artsy with comic book properties. The real fans will see right through your crap, and you're just adding extra layers of complications for the non-comic or cartoon followers.

 

[Stout]

It goes to show you: Stick with the material. Don't try to get too artsy with comic book properties. The real fans will see right through your crap, and you're just adding extra layers of complications for the non-comic or cartoon followers.

+1

 

[GatorAZ]

Wayne has to be on Venom or steroids right? That suit has to be at least 80 lbs and he's still running and throwing guys. Maybe a future film will explain it.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

It goes to show you: Stick with the material. Don't try to get too artsy with comic book properties. The real fans will see right through your crap, and you're just adding extra layers of complications for the non-comic or cartoon followers.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

‘Batman v Superman’ Seen Earning Less Profit Than Superman Alone

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-seen-earning-less-profit-than-superman-alone

“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” is poised to conquer the box office for the third straight weekend. But beneath the cape, tights and superhero armor lies a mere mortal.

“Batman v Superman,” one of the most expensive films ever made, is on pace to produce a $278 million profit for Warner Bros. once home video, TV and merchandise proceeds are tallied, according to SNL Kagan analyst Wade Holden. That’s less than the estimated $300 million the studio earned from “Man Of Steel.” It’s also evidence that Warner Bros. has more work to do to make its DC Comics division the unbreakable superhero movie business it needs.

“I’m sure that it’s a bit of a disappointment,” Holden said. “They were probably hoping for box-office numbers similar to ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron,’ since ‘Batman v Superman’ had DC’s three most well-known comic book heroes together in the same movie” -- Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman.

 

[NJCardFan]

I had heard that, too. How embarrassing that BvS is being outperformed by a country mile by Deadpool. How dreadfully, dreadfully embarrassing.

Deadpool is a different character. That movie is performing well for a few reasons. #1, Deadpool is a beloved character. #2, he's not like your prototypical superhero. He curses, is a smart ass, has no problem killing, etc. Basically, he's geared toward teenagers. Superman and Batman storylines are more cerebral. More grown up, darker. Believe me, if Deadpool had Deathstroke's personality they would never have done a movie.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Deadpool is a different character. That movie is performing well for a few reasons. #1, Deadpool is a beloved character. #2, he's not like your prototypical superhero. He curses, is a smart ass, has no problem killing, etc. Basically, he's geared toward teenagers. Superman and Batman storylines are more cerebral. More grown up, darker. Believe me, if Deadpool had Deathstroke's personality they would never have done a movie.

Deadpan may be beloved in the geek community, but he's still a fringe character to the general public. For a Deadpool movie to make as much or more domestically then a movie starring the two biggest supers of all time has to be embarrassing for WB... which is why there's now rumors that they're going to release the rated R version of the movie to try and goose ticket sales which have been disappointing... on pace to be down another 60% this weekend.

 

[Bert]

Deadpan may be beloved in the geek community, but he's still a fringe character to the general public. For a Deadpool movie to make as much or more domestically then a movie starring the two biggest supers of all time has to be embarrassing for WB... which is why there's now rumors that they're going to release the rated R version of the movie to try and goose ticket sales which have been disappointing... on pace to be down another 60% this weekend.

Which, to me, shows just how lost this studio is. There is no confidence in their product and they keep changing it to try to garner interest.

People didn't like Deadpool better than this movie because it was rated R or because it had adult humor. They liked it better because it's a way better movie. I liked it better because Zack "HDR addict" Snyder didn't direct it.

Adding profanity and blood-and-gore is not going to fix the issues.

Consequently, my expectations for suicide squad have been drastically lowered. However, atleast Snyder didn't direct so there is a glimmer of hope.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Which, to me, shows just how lost this studio is. There is no confidence in their product and they keep changing it to try to garner interest.

People didn't like Deadpool better than this movie because it was rated R or because it had adult humor. They liked it better because it's a way better movie. I liked it better because Zack "HDR addict" Snyder didn't direct it.

Adding profanity and blood-and-gore is not going to fix the issues.

Consequently, my expectations for suicide squad have been drastically lowered. However, atleast Snyder didn't direct so there is a glimmer of hope.

agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Covert Rain]

Deadpan may be beloved in the geek community, but he's still a fringe character to the general public. For a Deadpool movie to make as much or more domestically then a movie starring the two biggest supers of all time has to be embarrassing for WB... which is why there's now rumors that they're going to release the rated R version of the movie to try and goose ticket sales which have been disappointing... on pace to be down another 60% this weekend.

From what I understand Deadpan nailed it because the part was played so straight faced. .

J/K.... totally agree with you. It's a monumental disaster for the studio when a fringe character like Deadpool to outshine arguably a movie about two of the most popular comic book characters out there PERIOD (not just DC).

How the studio could be moving for with Zach Snyder is beyond me. They should just delay shooting of the Justice League to get this guy as far from their franchise as humanly possible. Beg Nolan or some other Director to take over. The best thing they could do is delay these movies. Heck...I would give Ben Affleck a crack at the script or something. I just feel bad for Ben and Gal because after all the heat of that casting I thought they nailed their parts.

I would take a gamble on anybody other than Snyder. I had low confidence going into this movie. Now after seeing two Snyder DC movies? I have zero confidence in anything else he touches.

 

[Stout]

Deadpool is a different character. That movie is performing well for a few reasons. #1, Deadpool is a beloved character. #2, he's not like your prototypical superhero. He curses, is a smart ass, has no problem killing, etc. Basically, he's geared toward teenagers. Superman and Batman storylines are more cerebral. More grown up, darker. Believe me, if Deadpool had Deathstroke's personality they would never have done a movie.

El Wrongo. I mean, you can't be more wrong if you were a 7-dollar bill. Deadpol isn't a 'beloved' character to the general public; Superman and Batman are two of THE most beloved--if not the ABSOLUTE most beloved characters--in all of super hero history. Deadpool is a snarky side show who many people--myself included--didn't even know before the movie's advent. It is incredibly embarrassing and inexcusable to be outperformed by Deadpool.

 

[NJCardFan]

El Wrongo. I mean, you can't be more wrong if you were a 7-dollar bill. Deadpol isn't a 'beloved' character to the general public; Superman and Batman are two of THE most beloved--if not the ABSOLUTE most beloved characters--in all of super hero history. Deadpool is a snarky side show who many people--myself included--didn't even know before the movie's advent. It is incredibly embarrassing and inexcusable to be outperformed by Deadpool.

You copied my quote. Please point out where I said Deadpool was beloved by the general public. I said no such thing. He is beloved by the comic community. Perhaps I wasn't specific when I said he was beloved but that's what I meant. The rest of my point still stands. Superman and Batman stories are more geared to an older audience. Now, I will agree that the studios keep dropping the ball on DC comic movies. Also, why is it embarrassing that Deadpool is outperforming this movie?

 

[NJCardFan]

Deadpan may be beloved in the geek community, but he's still a fringe character to the general public. For a Deadpool movie to make as much or more domestically then a movie starring the two biggest supers of all time has to be embarrassing for WB... which is why there's now rumors that they're going to release the rated R version of the movie to try and goose ticket sales which have been disappointing... on pace to be down another 60% this weekend.

I agree that the studios should be embarrassed and I simply don't understand why they can't get a DC movie right.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I agree that the studios should be embarrassed and I simply don't understand why they can't get a DC movie right.

It's really frustrating. They got Batman right like gang busters with Nolan at the helm, but it seems like they decided his vision was the ONLY way comic book stories could be told, and the mood, atmosphere and themes of Batman just don't translate to EVERY DC superhero. They seemingly tried to fit a square pegs into round hole with Man Of Steel and then proceeded to jam FIVE square pegs into one round hole with their accelerated Justice League plan.

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't think the problem is going dark. I think the problem with Snyder's films is he caught Michael BayITIS. His films go from moody to loud action in 2.2 seconds flat. Where Nolan's action sequences were more organic with the story. I don't mind that DC is going moodier but the characters have been shallow and it feels like he storyboards actions sequences then writes the rest of the story around it. For example that pointless and useless dream sequence in the middle of the movie.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Suicide Squad is undergoing reshoots in an effort to inject some levity to it. This apparently was triggered by the brutal reaction to Batman v Superman.

How was that movie lacking humor in the first place? You'd think any film based entirely around bad guys having to work together would be half comedy. DC is fumbling in the dark right now. Gotta figure Suicide Squad is now going to be really uneven and oddly paced if they're putting in newly written additional scenes this late in the process.

David Ayer addresses Suicide Squad reshoot reports

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...ide-squad-reshoot-reports#ObKrKOpWbIiqJuGt.99

At the tail end of March, BirthMoviesDeath reported that Warner Bros. was taking the time to do some reshoots on the upcoming Suicide Squad with the intention of making the entire film have the tone of the film’s first trailer. They went on to say that more humor was being added to the film as well.

Now, following the release of the second trailer last night, director David Ayer has taken to Twitter to address the report, saying it’s not about adding humor but adding more action.

https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/719439142925373440

 

[Stout]

You copied my quote. Please point out where I said Deadpool was beloved by the general public. I said no such thing. He is beloved by the comic community. Perhaps I wasn't specific when I said he was beloved but that's what I meant. The rest of my point still stands. Superman and Batman stories are more geared to an older audience. Now, I will agree that the studios keep dropping the ball on DC comic movies. Also, why is it embarrassing that Deadpool is outperforming this movie?

No 'perhaps' about it--you stated, unequivocally, he was a beloved character. Own it, man. Okay, so you didn't mean it. You have retroactively corrected yourself. Check

Anyway, I'll disagree 100 percent with you that Superman and Batman stories are geared to an older audience. They're the super heroes with perhaps the widest appeal in the entire world. They're not going to inherently suffer against Deadpool for some reason--Deadpool was at an inherent disadvantage before the movie came out because Deadpool was such a complete unknown, and Batman and Supes are the big leagues. Plus, Deadpool was a low-budget afterthought Marvel movie that didn't have to make a crap ton of money to succeed.

That leads to the answer to your last question. Why is it embarrassing? Are you KIDDING? Deadpool was made with next to no budget, is like a C-list Marvel movie way down the pecking order, and BvS is supposed to be THE DC tent pole blockbuster that launches the whole DC-verse thing here. How can it be anything but a gross embarrassment for Deadpool to outperform it?

 

[NJCardFan]

I'm not disagreeing with you in principle. Only that Batman and Superman are more heady while Deadpool is more lighthearted and snarky. Batman is darker. As for the movies, the producers of DC movies have dropped the ball so many times you'd think they were produced by Early Doucet.


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[Stout]

I'm not disagreeing with you in principle. Only that Batman and Superman are more heady while Deadpool is more lighthearted and snarky. Batman is darker. As for the movies, the producers of DC movies have dropped the ball so many times you'd think they were produced by Early Doucet.


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Nicely put!

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't think the studio is going to do a damn thing about Snyder but I just don't think I can take a 3rd plunge with any Snyder made Justice League movie or otherwise. That kills me to say it but I had little faith in Snyder before this movie and now zero.

I know people will still plunge down cash because it's a Justice League movie but I will probably pass.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't think the studio is going to do a damn thing about Snyder but I just don't think I can take a 3rd plunge with any Snyder made Justice League movie or otherwise. That kills me to say it but I had little faith in Snyder before this movie and now zero.

I know people will still plunge down cash because it a Justice League movie but I will probably pass.

it will be really tough to go see a Justice League movie. I just don't think he gets any of these characters at all and to see them ALL screwed up on such a massive scale will be awful to watch.

 

[Stout]

I don't think the studio is going to do a damn thing about Snyder but I just don't think I can take a 3rd plunge with any Snyder made Justice League movie or otherwise. That kills me to say it but I had little faith in Snyder before this movie and now zero.

I know people will still plunge down cash because it's a Justice League movie but I will probably pass.

No doubt about it--there's zero chance of me watching the Justice League movies.

 

[Bert]

Deadpool is a great comparison. Deadpool is like the anti hero, totally different, and yet it was great and it killed it in the box office,,, there was once another "superhero" movie that was more of an anti hero thing. It had phenomenal source material and should have been an easy homerun as a movie, but the director screwed it up royally...

I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. #watchmen #SnyderSucks

 

[oaken1]

Deadpool is a great comparison. Deadpool is like the anti hero, totally different, and yet it was great and it killed it in the box office,,, there was once another "superhero" movie that was more of an anti hero thing. It had phenomenal source material and should have been an easy homerun as a movie, but the director screwed it up royally...

I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. #watchmen #SnyderSucks

I had never heard of watchmen until the movie.......I watched it......and still wish I had never heard of watchmen.

 

[Bert]

I had never heard of watchmen until the movie.......I watched it......and still wish I had never heard of watchmen.

I agree that movie was awful but think of it this way. What if this movie was your first and only impression of both Batman and Superman? It would be just like Watchmen, totally forgettable. Because Snyder always puts his personal agenda and style before staying true to the source material.

MORE SLOW MOTION!!!!!!