Dedicating a thread to looking at the draft via the roster

[Chopper0080]

This is what I thought but then they had meetings with about 4 safeties projected to go from the 3rd to 5th.

I saw the report for the USC kind, but must have missed the others. Who else did they meet with?

 

[BigDavis75]

This is what I thought but then they had meetings with about 4 safeties projected to go from the 3rd to 5th.

This is the last year of Jalen’s deal and Blount is a special teamer. If they take a safety it wouldn’t surprise me. I want to see rabbit starting next year so I would hope it’s a lower pick/udfa especially with it being one of the positions where you can find good players outside of the top few rounds.

 

[Harry]

So, in terms of the defense, here is my summary.

DL - Rounds 1-2 only
EDGE - Likely rounds 1-5
ILB - Likely rounds 3-5 (maybe round 2)
CB - probably not, maybe rounds 4-5
S - probably not

I could look at any of these groups and see someone I’d be okay with bumping in each one if the right player fell. With no immediate desperate need the BPA argument gains more strength than usual Cards-wise. I could also see a DL in round 3 as there’s quite a bit of favorable history on those choices.

 

[Harry]

I get this but feel that the only CB really vulnerable is Clark. I don't love SMB but I don't think he is awful. Also adding a high draft pick CB just limits the ability for other young CBs to get reps. This perspective is helped by not being very high on Will Johnson.

I see this as accurate. SMB played much better late in the season. Unless they see an immediate #1, I’d pass. I don’t see one.

 

[Harry]

I'd really like to add a deep threat, someone like Tony Horton, and a vet, someone like Tyler Lockett. This room could be vastly improved for not much money.

I’m surprised Elijah Moore hasn’t signed unless I missed it.

 

[BritCard]

I saw the report for the USC kind, but must have missed the others. Who else did they meet with?

Isaac Gifford, Shamari Simmons, and I'm sure I saw they met with Makuba but I can't find it now.

 

[Garthshort]

I've read many posts that list WR as a need. And, on the surface they all seem reasonable. I've already asked this question but, as far as I know, I didn't see an answer. My question was/is where were we ranked in Passing Offense?

 

[Stout]

Isaac Gifford, Shamari Simmons, and I'm sure I saw they met with Makuba but I can't find it now.

Brit, I feel dirty that you and I aren't arguing over pre-draft...well, anything That being said, you're wrong! Not sure about what, but I have to get us back to the norm here lol JK

Really, I wanted to stop by to say that this thread, and the posts Brit started that inspired it, is really good stuff.

 

[Chopper0080]

Isaac Gifford, Shamari Simmons, and I'm sure I saw they met with Makuba but I can't find it now.

Thank you.

 

[Chopper0080]

I've read many posts that list WR as a need. And, on the surface they all seem reasonable. I've already asked this question but, as far as I know, I didn't see an answer. My question was/is where were we ranked in Passing Offense?

In the 18-21 range. Depends on what you are looking at. Rushing 7-11.

The biggest issues were the defense getting off the field and poor 3rd and medium/long conversion rates for the offense. Those both limited possessions. Red zone offense was also pretty bad.

There was a lot of average with the Cardinals passing offense in 2024. But also a lot of mid to bad with the defense. Personally, I would prefer to add early draft talent to the OL and defensive front while throwing a mid rounder at WR with this particular draft class.

 

[BritCard]

Brit, I feel dirty that you and I aren't arguing over pre-draft...well, anything That being said, you're wrong! Not sure about what, but I have to get us back to the norm here lol JK

Really, I wanted to stop by to say that this thread, and the posts Brit started that inspired it, is really good stuff.

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[Harry]

I've read many posts that list WR as a need. And, on the surface they all seem reasonable. I've already asked this question but, as far as I know, I didn't see an answer. My question was/is where were we ranked in Passing Offense?

Top of bottom third in most categories.

 

[Stout]

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[maritan]

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FWIW, I forbid Stout and BritCard from getting along like this.

 

[Garthshort]

Top of bottom third in most categories.

For me the category that matters most is total yards. Would that be bottom third as well?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

ILB

Mack Wilson
Akeem Davis-Gaither
Mykal Walker
Owen Pappoe

Needless to say, all of these players are upgradable but it is more about how much does Monti want to invest to upgrade them. This is a rounds 1-5 option, but based on how Monti has valued the position so far, I would say it's more likely 2-5. Pappoe seems to be on the outside looking in, but they also could be happy with where he is at. I could see Monty being happy with throwing a 5th at Bassa from Oregon.

Yikes

That is all

 

[kerouac9]

For me the category that matters most is total yards. Would that be bottom third as well?

18th in yards
16th in yards per attempt
15th in passer rating
5th in sack percentage (lowest)

 

[Garthshort]

Based on the above, I'm hoping that we don't go WR in the 1st or 2nd round. Maybe third or fourth. Still want OL in the first, JMO.

K9, thanks for the info.

 

[Krangodnzr]

In the 18-21 range. Depends on what you are looking at. Rushing 7-11.

The biggest issues were the defense getting off the field and poor 3rd and medium/long conversion rates for the offense. Those both limited possessions. Red zone offense was also pretty bad.

There was a lot of average with the Cardinals passing offense in 2024. But also a lot of mid to bad with the defense. Personally, I would prefer to add early draft talent to the OL and defensive front while throwing a mid rounder at WR with this particular draft class.

When I run through mock draft simulations, I think the sweet spot for WR is round 3, but obviously that's just a simulation. I think Jaylin Noel is a decent fit for what the Cardinals need.

 

[Chopper0080]

When I run through mock draft simulations, I think the sweet spot for WR is round 3, but obviously that's just a simulation. I think Jaylin Noel is a decent fit for what the Cardinals need.

Agree. Round 3 is the first spot where I feel WR might be BPA.

 

[juza76]

Agree. Round 3 is the first spot where I feel WR might be BPA.

Tory Horton

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Tony Horton

The P90 guy?

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[juza76]

Horton a top 3 vertical threat WR in this draft
Likely a third round pick cause he missed some games last season

 

[CardNots]

Horton a top 3 vertical threat WR in this draft
Likely a third round pick cause he missed some games last season

Does he have good hands ?

 

[PDXChris]

Agree. Round 3 is the first spot where I feel WR might be BPA.

Who do you like there?