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My favorite vacation spot. A room at Paris Las Vegas with the Eiffel Tower right outside the window. The fountains of Bellagio in the background. And Vegas' (once again) best buffet -- at the Bacchanal at Caesar's.

Love it!

Did you get to go up in the High Roller?

No that thing doesn't really impress me.
 

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I agree. Back in the day Barkley was just a breath behind Jordon when talking about stars.

Yep, he had a big mouth but I remember many a times where he would call out the other team and say basically he didn't care what they did, they couldn't guard him. Then he would drop 30+ points on them. He was absolutely unguardable for much of his career.

Not to mention that Cousins should be able to rebound at 6'11". Barkley was listed at 6'6" but he wasn't. He was in the 6'4" to 6'5" range and career wise only averaged one less rebound than Cousins so far. That is unreal.
 

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If the rumors are true about him going behind the back of the GM and owner to try to get them to trade DC, yep. And they should.

Players around the league will stand up and applaud. They would gain instant credibility with players.

I still trying to figure out how a coach can trade a player without going through the GM and owner.
 

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I still trying to figure out how a coach can trade a player without going through the GM and owner.

Yeah that makes no sense. Sounds like a scapegoat type scenario to me. Even if he "agreed" in principle to the trade, seems like the GM and owner would still have to sign off on it. Something isn't right here.
 

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Are the Kings seriously thinking about firing George Karl after only hiring him four months ago?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238366/Kings-Considering-Firing-George-Karl

They'll look like idiots either way. Boogie will not want to play for a coach that wants him gone, so he's gonna ask out. They could fire the coach and pay him $10M or whatever is left on his deal after only 4 months. That would be 3 coaches in 1 year or so. That franchise is a mess, and if there's any chance or way to fleece them, do it.
 

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They'll look like idiots either way. Boogie will not want to play for a coach that wants him gone, so he's gonna ask out. They could fire the coach and pay him $10M or whatever is left on his deal after only 4 months. That would be 3 coaches in 1 year or so. That franchise is a mess, and if there's any chance or way to fleece them, do it.

You are correct. The Kings are a mess.
 

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They are talking about it now. I guess the team isn't happy he is trying to trade DC. Nobody in the organization supports him being traded. Hence why they are talking about firing GC. Sounds like he isn't going to be moved if the front office has it's way.
 

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They are talking about it now. I guess the team isn't happy he is trying to trade DC. Nobody in the organization supports him being traded. Hence why they are talking about firing GC. Sounds like he isn't going to be moved if the front office has it's way.

Cousins is likely not going to be a happy camper playing for George Karl unless they can work it out. Star players usually win in these situations.
 

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The suns reportedly have no intetest in Cousins, only brothers.
 

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You would think that the management would ask a potential coach what he wants done with the roster before signing him to a four-year deal.
 

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Did anybody else hear Gambo rattle on about Cousins and saying what a huge locker room mistake it would be for the Suns to get him? I have no clue if Gambo is simply talking out of his backside but anybody else have reservations about this attitude?
 

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Did anybody else hear Gambo rattle on about Cousins and saying what a huge locker room mistake it would be for the Suns to get him? I have no clue if Gambo is simply talking out of his backside but anybody else have reservations about this attitude?

Sour grapes. Yes, Cousins has a major attitude problem; everyone knows that. But the Suns are already catering to Tucker's alcoholism, the Morrises' bizarre persecution complex, and Bledsoe's constant sulking. If it were any way possible for them to get a player of Cousins's ability, you have to take the bad with the good and consider yourself fortunate.
 

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Sour grapes. Yes, Cousins has a major attitude problem; everyone knows that. But the Suns are already catering to Tucker's alcoholism, the Morrises' bizarre persecution complex, and Bledsoe's constant sulking. If it were any way possible for them to get a player of Cousins's ability, you have to take the bad with the good and consider yourself fortunate.

Totally agree. This could be a good moment to get a star player. With Love and Aldridge in the FA market, a team like the Suns (not considered big market team) could sneak and get the 3rd best option (still a pretty good one) in Cousins.
 

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I don't know how the rest of you feel but it sure seems like the Suns should be in desperation mode to acquire talent if they don't want to build slowly through the draft. Again...don't know if this is true but Gambo said that both our GM and Coach are getting alot of pressure from Sarver to get to the playoffs.

I am with you...Cousins is a good calculated risk.
 

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Totally agree. This could be a good moment to get a star player. With Love and Aldridge in the FA market, a team like the Suns (not considered big market team) could sneak and get the 3rd best option (still a pretty good one) in Cousins.

surely Gorilla's just being argumentative by listing Cousins as the 3rd best option among available big men, right Eric?
 

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I still don't see getting Cousins as possible. And I am not sure that Cousins can be any part of a championship team. He is a great player, but adding him to the problems we already have would be really um yucky.

If we could unload locker room problems in getting him (the Morris twins and Tucker), I would be all for trying it.
 

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surely Gorilla's just being argumentative by listing Cousins as the 3rd best option among available big men, right Eric?

Would you actually prefer Aldridge or Love to Cousins for this current Suns roster? A simple yes or no.
 

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Sour grapes. Yes, Cousins has a major attitude problem; everyone knows that. But the Suns are already catering to Tucker's alcoholism, the Morrises' bizarre persecution complex, and Bledsoe's constant sulking. If it were any way possible for them to get a player of Cousins's ability, you have to take the bad with the good and consider yourself fortunate.
There is something else to be considered. If Cotton were alive and coaching, OK. But Mr. Nice Guy Jeff is not the Coach to keep all of these prima donnas in line.
 

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There is something else to be considered. If Cotton were alive and coaching, OK. But Mr. Nice Guy Jeff is not the Coach to keep all of these prima donnas in line.

Success in the NBA comes from getting a coach who can work with your roster, not finding players to fit the coach. Popovich is the only exception.
 

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Success in the NBA comes from getting a coach who can work with your roster, not finding players to fit the coach. Popovich is the only exception.
Exactly! Which is why a roster including Tucker, the twins and Cousins would be doomed to mediocrity until a Head Coach who could handle them is part of the equation.
 
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